The Union Jack flew over Soledad in 1828

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Since: Aug 11

Thailand

#1 Jul 29, 2012
Now isn't that a funny thing ??

http://www.scribd.com/doc/100678683/Falklands...
Deanstreet

Stanley, Falkland Islands (Malvinas)

#2 Jul 29, 2012
Good of Emilio Vernet to record such an event....

Nice one, another nail in the argentine/malvinista 'coffin'.....

Kindest regards from the Falkland Islands
MALVINENSE1

Tucuman, Argentina

#3 Jul 29, 2012
Lord Ton wrote:
Now isn't that a funny thing ??
http://www.scribd.com/doc/100678683/Falklands...
Really white trash??
Take that and present to the UN,uk still losing,PELOTUDO!!
And you are as poor as before!!
Leave uk for Asia and drop the pound! That is THE REALITY,imbecile!!
Deanstreet

Stanley, Falkland Islands (Malvinas)

#4 Jul 29, 2012
I guess they raised the Union Flag, because they were so happy to be British...

Kindest regards from the Falkland Islands

Since: Jul 11

Chester-le-street, UK

#5 Jul 29, 2012
MALVINENSE1 wrote:
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Really white trash??
Take that and present to the UN,uk still losing,PELOTUDO!!
And you are as poor as before!!
Leave uk for Asia and drop the pound! That is THE REALITY,imbecile!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =68w506LH3BEXX
Losing what ? Last time I checked the FALKLANDS were still British and not a single hint that things were going to change...

Still posting links over 3 years old ? Maybe well noted ANGLOPHILE Rodgers is correct, but note the fact he is not saying invest in Argentina either....
The1goodthingtha tcherdid

San Giuliano Milanese, Italy

#6 Jul 29, 2012
May 25 th 1829
Emilio Vernet writes in his diary about the 1810 Revolution celebrations onEast Falkland;
“At sunrise three cannon shots were fired and the flags of both Great Britain and Buenos Aires were hoisted”

Ohhhh, dear. Looks bad for the nation that dropped its lollypop in 1833.
Malvinero

Argentina

#7 Jul 29, 2012
Y QUE PASO CON EL TRATADO DE 1850????? NO ERA QUE ARGENTINA ERA LA DUEÑA DE LAS ISLAS Y SE LAS CEDIO PARA TERMINAR CON LAS DIFERENCIAS EXISTENTES?????.

EEEEHHHHHH.......LOS BRITÁNICOS HAN MENTIDO TANTO EN SU HISTORIA QUE NADIE LES VAN A CREER.

SI LOS ARGUMENTOS DE LOS BRITANICOS CAMBIAN TANTO ES PORQUE NO TIENEN NADA SERIO.....

Since: Aug 11

Thailand

#8 Jul 29, 2012
Emilio Vernet's Diary ! He's ..... one of you isn't he Marv ?? Argy?? Or were the Vernet's not that committed to Buenos Aires. After all, Luis Vernet only ever referred to Soledad as 'his' colony :-)

Looks like he was working for the British until 1829 at least .... funny that :-)
the1goodthingtha tcherdid

Milan, Italy

#9 Jul 29, 2012
Malvinero wrote:
Y QUE PASO CON EL TRATADO DE 1850????? NO ERA QUE ARGENTINA ERA LA DUEÑA DE LAS ISLAS Y SE LAS CEDIO PARA TERMINAR CON LAS DIFERENCIAS EXISTENTES?????.
EEEEHHHHHH.......LOS BRITÁNICOS HAN MENTIDO TANTO EN SU HISTORIA QUE NADIE LES VAN A CREER.
SI LOS ARGUMENTOS DE LOS BRITANICOS CAMBIAN TANTO ES PORQUE NO TIENEN NADA SERIO.....
We have lots of arguments.

They are complementary in this case: Vernet's settlement wasn't Argentinian, it was private, until he betrayed the British by accepting the governership. Argentina gave up its claim in 1850, by signing a legally binding document stating Argentina had no outstanding territorial differences with the UK.
MALVINENSE1

Tucuman, Argentina

#10 Jul 30, 2012
the1goodthingthatcherdid wrote:
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We have lots of arguments.
They are complementary in this case: Vernet's settlement wasn't Argentinian, it was private, until he betrayed the British by accepting the governership. Argentina gave up its claim in 1850, by signing a legally binding document stating Argentina had no outstanding territorial differences with the UK.
REally? TAke it to the UN,next year,still uk is LOSING!!
The1goodthingtha tcherdid

Milan, Italy

#11 Jul 30, 2012
MALVINENSE1 wrote:
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REally? TAke it to the UN,next year,still uk is LOSING!!
The C24 (not the UN) is not making a decision on the historical evidence, neither Britain nor Argentina has presented their full historical case.
Yako

Argentina

#12 Jul 30, 2012
Luis Vernet nunca pudo regresar a las islas Malvinas, a pesar de varias peticiones a las autoridades británicas reclamando el derecho de volver y la recuperación de las tierras que le habián pertenecido.
Malvinense1

Tucuman, Argentina

#13 Jul 30, 2012
The1goodthingthatcherdid wrote:
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The C24 (not the UN) is not making a decision on the historical evidence, neither Britain nor Argentina has presented their full historical case.
Really?'C24 not the UN??
http://www.un.org/en/decolonization/index.sht...
Good for nothing.Go next year at the UN,C24,white trash and present your powerful historical data,together with lortrash,deanPELOTUDO,and all the clowns!!
Deanstreet

Stanley, Falkland Islands (Malvinas)

#14 Jul 30, 2012
Lord Ton wrote:
Emilio Vernet's Diary ! He's ..... one of you isn't he Marv ?? Argy?? Or were the Vernet's not that committed to Buenos Aires. After all, Luis Vernet only ever referred to Soledad as 'his' colony :-)
Looks like he was working for the British until 1829 at least .... funny that :-)
'his' colony ...

Not..

argentina's colony...

LOL....

Kindest regards from the Falkland Islands
MALVINENSE1

Tucuman, Argentina

#15 Jul 30, 2012
Deanstreet wrote:
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'his' colony ...
Not..
argentina's colony...
LOL....
Kindest regards from the Falkland Islands
AHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAAHpoor deluded,bankrupt ex empire,pIRATES
Yako

Argentina

#16 Jul 31, 2012
Lord Ton wrote:
Emilio Vernet's Diary ! He's ..... one of you isn't he Marv ?? Argy?? Or were the Vernet's not that committed to Buenos Aires. After all, Luis Vernet only ever referred to Soledad as 'his' colony :-)
Looks like he was working for the British until 1829 at least .... funny that :-)
Nuestro pabellón celeste y blanco flameó en las islas en 1820 y se comunicó a todos los capitanes de los buques presentes que tocaban Puerto Soledad o Puerto Luis que las islas Malvinas eran propiedad de las Provinicias Unidas del Río de la Plata. Esto fue hasta reconocido en un debate por los mismos británicos del foro Falklands/Malvinas como Nora Femenia, Cristina Shepard, entre otros británicos. El usuario Julio tiene la copia de ese debate.
El conjunto de islas siempre se llamaron Malvinas para España y para Argentina, no era solo la isla Soledad. Que Vernet solo nombre a Soledad no quiere decir que el resto del archipiélago no le pertenecía a la Argentina.
En la isla Soledad había un puerto, viviendas, animales y se estaba poblándo con argentinos e inmigrantes de otros países, la capital de las islas era Puerto Soledad. La otra isla todavía no se estaba poblando. La agresión del Capitán Silas Duncan de la Lexington de USA en 1831 y la invasión sorpresiva de los militares ingleses al mando de Onslow en 1833 no permitieron el progreso en las islas.
Gracioso es que digas que Luis Vernet trabajó para los británicos, cuando los mismos británicos son los que impidieron que Vernet regrese con su familia a las islas donde tenía su inmueble, sus tierras, sus pertenencias, y sus empleados que después fueron echados por los invasores ingleses en 1834.
Yako

Argentina

#17 Jul 31, 2012
El 10 de junio de 1829, Martín Rodríguez, gobernador de Buenos Aires, dictó un decreto a través del cual se creaba la Comandancia Política y Militar de las Islas Malvinas -tenía jurisdicción en islas adyacentes y el cabo de Hornos- a cargo de Luis Vernet. Su esposa, María Sáez relató la toma de posesión del cargo:

“Domingo 30 de Agosto (1829): Muy buen día de Santa Rosa de Lima y por lo que determina Vernet, tomar hoy posición de las Islas en nombre del Gobierno de Buenos Aires. A las doce se reunieron todos los habitantes, se enarboló la bandera Nacional, a cuyo tiempo se tiraron veintiún cañonazos, repitiéndose sin cesar el vivas a la Patria. Puse a cada uno en el sombrero cintas con los dos colores que distinguen nuestra bandera. Se dio a reconocer el Comandante”.

Texto del Diario de la Sra. Maria Sáez de Vernet en Montarce Lastra, Antonio: Redención de la soberanía. Las Malvinas y el diario de Doña María Sáez de Vernet, Buenos Aires, Talleres Gráficos Padilla y Contreras, 1946, p. 19.

Como bien dice el texto de María Vernet, "LAS ISLAS" Y NO LA ISLA.
BritBob

UK

#18 Jul 31, 2012
Deanstreet wrote:
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'his' colony ...
Not..
argentina's colony...
LOL....
Kindest regards from the Falkland Islands
Yes quite true. Vernet, if given the choice would have always sided with the British rather than the Argentines. His letter to Lord Harrowby dated 5th May 1856 stated his preference for 'my Colony to be under the British flag'.
Malvinense1

Tucuman, Argentina

#19 Jul 31, 2012
BritBob wrote:
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Yes quite true. Vernet, if given the choice would have always sided with the British rather than the Argentines. His letter to Lord Harrowby dated 5th May 1856 stated his preference for 'my Colony to be under the British flag'.
ANother Lie.Vernet did not asked permision,nor he cares about the british.In fact,Vernet,was very adamant,to send a military party,to retake MAlvinas from the british.He was an able,honest,religeous man.
He repeated the many times,to take a military action against the british,in 1833 and several times after.IGNORANT,white trash!

Since: Aug 11

Thailand

#20 Jul 31, 2012
There was nothing to stop Vernet retur ning in 1833. He continued to send workers to the Falklands and corresponded often with the first military commanders. Eventually his ridiculous demands about what he owned and how much it was worth caused a fallout and Lowcay told him to stay away.

He went to England to get compensation for his losses, although he didn't get as much as he hoped.

Vernet prefered the British up until 1829 when he opted for a title from BA. Not that he kept it very long.

So tell me Marv - what evidence do you have for Vernet wanting an expedition to go to the Falklands to throw the British off ??

Yako - you need to learn more !!

http://www.scribd.com/doc/100678683/Falklands...

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