World's most remote brewery builds local following

Ace McCloud wrote:

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Uk has had a problem with underage drinking for years! Sadly it might be that with this generation many parents will out live there children.

That problem has gotten global.

Ricardo wrote:

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Sadly, that is also happening in Argentina...beer consumption increased a lot among the young people.
I believe that is because beer fits more with this youngsters culture of drinking a lot with little expenditure. You can not drink wine by liters

Now, if Cristina could solve this problem, the British - even the Falklanders - might warm to her.

Joe wrote:

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Now, if Cristina could solve this problem, the British - even the Falklanders - might warm to her.

Yo diría el pueblo argentino....que harías vos si fueramos para Nueva Zelanda y te desalojamos de tu casa por la fuerza,....luego dejamos gente que viva ahí y no te dejen entrar....serían ilegales? que actitud tendrías vos con ellos?

Diego,
I've tried Google, and a bottle of wine. Still can't get what you say. Maybe I'll have to wait for the Falklands whisky.

Joe wrote:

Diego,
I've tried Google, and a bottle of wine. Still can't get what you say. Maybe I'll have to wait for the Falklands whisky.

Joe,

Google/Babel etc gave up for me ages ago, so now don't bother with the drivel..

Take care..

Kindest regards from the Falkland Islands

Malvinense1 wrote:

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And the brits can put something better,like:¨Pirate ROYALE" to the whisky and <Ale...
Still Mrs Kirchner,defeated the brit sprime minister at the G20....
C24 Anothe rdefeat to the brits LIARS and pirates!!
AHAHHHAHAHAHAHA Good to go Argentina....teh british empire is collapsing...economically and morally...IT IS FINISHE Dwith the brits......AHAHAHAHAH poor deluded pirates..

Hi Malvinensel, erm who owns the Falkland Islands now and forever?
Not you is it,no. Thats why its not called that third world giberish name malvin something or other. We own the BRITISH FALKLAND ISLANDS and that means you are defeated doesnt it :) I will send you some of our wonderful Falklands beers maldago you can drown your sorrows with it. Bye then.

Deanstreet wrote:

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Joe,
Google/Babel etc gave up for me ages ago, so now don't bother with the drivel..
Take care..
Kindest regards from the Falkland Islands

Thanx, Dean.
We've got Ace's "Witch's Brew" and Malvin's "Pirate Royale" for the beers. What should the whisky be called?

Diego wrote:

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UDS. DOS DEBERIAN SENTARSE A TOMAR UNA CERVEZA Y MIRAR LA PELICULA FUCKLAND SE LAS RECOMIENDO JAJJAJAJAA
OTRA FALLA DE LA SEGURIDAD DE LOS KELPERS AY AY AY

A crate of Ace's bottled piss for you then, Diego.

Baguamarsbar wrote:

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Hi Malvinensel, erm who owns the Falkland Islands now and forever?
Not you is it,no. Thats why its not called that third world giberish name malvin something or other. We own the BRITISH FALKLAND ISLANDS and that means you are defeated doesnt it :) I will send you some of our wonderful Falklands beers maldago you can drown your sorrows with it. Bye then.

"Forever" is a big word and only fools use it
You can not even assure that the UK or Argentina, will last "forever"
And you are Wrong
In all maps the Islands appear either as Falkland Islands or Islas Malvinas with the comment in brackets: "u.k. claimed by Argentina"
(Probably not in british maps)
It is a disputed territory acknowledged by the whole non-british World

Baguamarsbar wrote:

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Hi Malvinensel, erm who owns the Falkland Islands now and forever?
Not you is it,no. Thats why its not called that third world giberish name malvin something or other. We own the BRITISH FALKLAND ISLANDS and that means you are defeated doesnt it :) I will send you some of our wonderful Falklands beers maldago you can drown your sorrows with it. Bye then.

He's already drowning in 'Pirate Royale'.

Diego wrote:

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QUE BOLUDO QUE SOS....ENCIMA VIVIS ENNUEVA ZELANDA NUEVA ZELANDA JAJAJAJ QUE PAIS DE MIERDA ESE AJAJAJA

Have another, Diego.

Diego wrote:

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QUE BOLUDO QUE SOS....ENCIMA VIVIS ENNUEVA ZELANDA NUEVA ZELANDA JAJAJAJ QUE PAIS DE MIERDA ESE AJAJAJA

Ea un hermoso país hasta que los britanicos llegaron y conquistaron y colonizaron a los pobres maories....

Es hora de que le devuelvan su tierra a sus legitimos propietarios....

francisco wrote:

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Ea un hermoso país hasta que los britanicos llegaron y conquistaron y colonizaron a los pobres maories....
Es hora de que le devuelvan su tierra a sus legitimos propietarios....

Your not invited to the party Francisco. Dont make us throw you out like in 1833 and 1882 when you tried to gate crash.

Taxi for Francisco.

Ace McCloud wrote:

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Your not invited to the party Francisco. Dont make us throw you out like in 1833 and 1882 when you tried to gate crash.
Taxi for Francisco.

Hace ds años que estoy en la fiesta, llegue antes que vos....

Vas a devolverle a los maories sus tierras?.

Vas a respetar los derechos humanos (comenzando por su autodeterminacion) de los chagosianos?.

O solo vas a defender la autodeterminacion mentirosa de los que son racialmente iguales a vos?.

francisco wrote:

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Hace ds años que estoy en la fiesta, llegue antes que vos....
Vas a devolverle a los maories sus tierras?.
Vas a respetar los derechos humanos (comenzando por su autodeterminacion) de los chagosianos?.
O solo vas a defender la autodeterminacion mentirosa de los que son racialmente iguales a vos?.

Two wrongs don't make a right.
Injustices to the Chagos and Maori do not justify injustice to the Falklanders.

El edén

Diego García es un atolón (una isla de coral en forma de anillo) de apenas 44 kilómetros cuadrados, el único habitado en el archipiélago de Chagos, en el Oceáno Indico, a una distancia de unos dos mil kilómetros del sur de India y un poco más lejos de la costa oeste de Africa. Casi como la isla perdida de Lost. El marinero andaluz que la descubrió en el siglo XVI le puso su nombre, cuestión que si no hacía lo suficiente para merecer una calle por lo menos tendría su islita. Pasó por manos portuguesas y francesas hasta que luego de las Guerras Napoleónicas quedó bajo dominio británico. El Imperio la utilizó como lugar de recarga de carbón para los buques que navegaban entre Europa y Australia.

Así siguió hasta 1966, año en que Gran Bretaña acordó alquilarle la isla a Estados Unidos por 50 años, hasta 2016, para que instale una base militar en plena Guerra Fría. Pero luego del 11-S la CIA aprovechó su ubicación estratégica para armar allí también una prisión secreta al estilo Guantánamo, donde puede hacer de las suyas fuera de todo control en su particular lucha contra el terrorismo. Un paraíso natural de aguas transparentes y mágicos corales luminosos terminó convertido en un pantano de tortura y horror.

La autodeterminación de los dos mil habitantes de Diego García (los “chagosianos”, ya que viven en Chagos), una ironía: los echaron sin miramientos. Lo hicieron de diversas maneras. Por ejemplo, con el bloqueo al ingreso de alimentos, por lo que algunos no aguantaron y se trasladaron a villas miseria de la vecina isla Mauricio, donde aún sobreviven como pueden en casillas de chapa. Hubo también embarcados a la fuerza y otros que fueron engañados con anzuelos tales como vacaciones gratis en el exterior para después impedirle el regreso. Se recuerdan casos emblemáticos como el de María Aimee, quien en 1969 llevó a sus hijos a Port Louis, en Mauricio, para un tratamiento médico y luego no le dejaron subir al barco para la vuelta. Recién se pudo reencontrar con su marido dos años más tarde.

Cuentan que muchos de los pobladores no soportaron el destierro. Hubo suicidios y casos de alcoholismo. En una nota de The Times, de Londres, en 2007, una isleña recuerda:“Era el paraíso,éramos como aves libres, y ahora estamos igual que en una prisión”. Se calcula que de los dos mil habitantes originales, hoy viven menos de 700.

En 1998, los chagosianos y sus descendientes resolvieron acudir a la Justicia. Para todos los especialistas, en su caso se había producido una flagrante violación al derecho internacional. Dos años después, en efecto, el Tribunal Supremo británico dictaminó que la expulsión había sido ilegal y que los habitantes debían regresar. En 2004, el fallo fue confirmado en la Corte de Apelaciones. Los sucesivos gobiernos británicos ignoraron la sentencia y el Foreign Office continuó apelando hasta que, en 2008, la Cámara de los Lores –última instancia del particular sistema legal inglés– falló a favor del gobierno por un ajustado tres a dos. El argumento esgrimido por los lores fue que el gobierno contaba con títulos suficientes para legislar sobre una de sus colonias en función de la seguridad de los intereses del Reino Unido. Estados Unidos ya había advertido que la vuelta de los habitantes significaría un “riesgo inaceptable” para su base.

Jonathan Crown representó a la Cancillería británica y fue elocuente en su argumentación.“Los chagosianos no tienen territorio propio, no tienen derecho sobre las islas en absoluto”, sostuvo en su exposición. Crown debe haber llegado tarde el día que en la facultad enseñaron autodeterminación.

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EdenDiego Garcia is an atoll (a ring shaped coral island) just 44 square kilometers, the only inhabited in the Chagos Archipelago in the Indian Ocean, at a distance of about two thousand kilometres from South of India and a little further on the West coast of Africa. Almost like the lost island of Lost. The Andalusian sailor who discovered it in the 16th century he gave his name, question that if I didn't do enough to deserve at least a street would have his little island. Passed through Portuguese and French hands until after the Napoleonic wars the town came under British rule. The Empire used it as a place of coal refueling for ships plying between Europe and Australia.This continued until 1966, year in which Britain agreed to rent the island to United States for 50 years, until 2016, so installing a military base in cold war. But after 11-S the CIA took advantage of its strategic location to assemble there also a secret prison style at Guantánamo, where they can make their own out of all control in particular combating terrorism. A natural paradise of crystal clear waters and magical luminous coral ended up turned into a swamp of torture and horror.The self-determination of the two thousand inhabitants of Diego Garcia ("Chagossians", since living in Chagos), an irony: threw them no punches. They did it in various ways. For example, with the blockade at the entrance of food, so some not endured and moved to slums of neighbouring Mauritius, where still survive as best they can in sheet metal boxes. There were also shipped to the force and others who were duped with hooks such as free vacation abroad to then prevent the return. Remember emblematic cases as of Maria Aimee, who in 1969 led their children to Port Louis, Mauritius, for medical treatment and then didn't you upload the boat for the return. Recently, two years later he could reunite with her husband.They have many of the settlers endured not banishment. There were suicides and cases of alcoholism. In a note of The Times of London, in 2007, an Islander recalls: "it was paradise, we were as free birds, and now we are just in a prison". He is estimated that the two thousand original inhabitants today live less than 700.In 1998, the Chagossians and their descendants resolved to resort to the courts. For all specialists, where there had been a flagrant violation of international law. Two years later, in fact, the British Supreme Court ruled that the expulsion had been illegal and that the inhabitants should be returned. In 2004, the decision was confirmed in the Court of appeal. Successive British Governments ignored the ruling and the Foreign Office continued appealing until, in 2008, the House of Lords - ultimately the particular legal system English - ruled in favour of the Government by a set three to two. The argument put forward by the Lords was that the Government had enough titles to legislate on one of their colonies subject to the interests of the United Kingdom security. United States had already warned that the return of the inhabitants would mean an "unacceptable risk" to its base.Jonathan Crown represented the British Chancery and was eloquent in his argument. The Chagossians have no own territory, are not entitled on the Islands at all, said in his statement. Crown must have come later in the day that the Faculty taught self-determination.

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