Argentina, the UK and the Malvinas/Falklands

How? In violence or peacefully?

Don't you dare to return in violence - you would be wiped from the face of the earth with all the British weapons on the Islands - and it would be the end of the sovereignty dispute (I met a man yesterday who believes the dispute was ended in 1982 but I don't believe that).

Wait - it won't be much longer and a solution will be found.

Looks like you're right, Lizzie.
Mrs Kirchner seems to be playing the same old card again: trouble at home?- let's threaten the Falklands. Diverts the masses, y'know.
Next assault Argentina is stupid enough to start and Patagonia will be removed from them and declared an independent state contingent upon recognition of Falklands' independence.
If they still don't learn, all the rest of Argentina north of the Rio Negro will be parcelled out between Bolivia, Paraguay, Uruguay, Chile, whoever, leaving just Buenos Aires. If they still don't learn, Buenos Aires will be divided up into zones, like Berlin. Even the Germans learnt after that.

If yall need any help, give us a call, we got your backs.

Basil: where is the source of this information, please?

Mrs K mentions Antarctica but I have not found anywhere she mentions the Falklands/Malvinas.

elizabeth wrote:

Basil: where is the source of this information, please?
Mrs K mentions Antarctica but I have not found anywhere she mentions the Falklands/Malvinas.

OK, but Argentina usully includes Pepys I. and the Sandwich Is. in their definition of Argentine Antarctica.

You prove my point. Please do not accuse Mrs Kirchner of whipping up anger against the Falklands/Malvinas when she's talking about somewhere else.

It is possible that an agreement could be made about the Sandwich Islands which does not mention the Falklands/Malvinas, or so it seems to me.

Let us keep to truth.

David Glazier wrote:

El archpiélago de las Falklands nunca ha pertenecido a Argentina. El territorio pertenece a la gente que lo habita.

no seàs imbècil ¡es lo que dijimos siempre! la gente que habitaban las Malvinas eran los argentinos hasta que los despojaron esos piratas ingleses con la ayuda de USA, los imperialistas creen que por ser potencias se pueden cagar en todos y robar territorios sin importarles mas nada y no es asì, jamàs les permitiremos esa usurpaciòn

David Glazier wrote:

Es una lástima que aquí solo aparecen argentinos juveniles sin educación p.e."vamos talleres" que dice "death to britishes". Esta gente no representa a Argentina.
El pueblo argentino es una nación educada y a la mayoría no les importa el asunto de las Malvinas/Falklands.
Lo más importante es ¿que quieren los habitantes de las islas?

asì es, esos son simples hinchas de equipos de fùtbol muy ignorantes sin nada que hacer en sus vidas, y respecto al promedio de los argentinos, no es que no les importe el tema Malvinas, es que està muy mal debatido y desorganizado còmo casi tòdo por acà, a la mayorìa por ej. le interesa nomàs la plata y de polìtica ni quieren oìr, un muy grave error porque al final suben al poder hijos de de re mil putas que venden tòdo al exterior como pasò con el cagador de Menem y que manejan el gobierno como les da la gana y etcètera, y asì las cosas no mejoran nunca y mucho menos para recuperar viejos territorios usurpados còmo nuestras ìslas de los mares australes, y con los anglo-Malvinenses y lo que ellos quieran, la verdad que su futuro es muy incierto por màs que voten con que sigan los ingleses ahì dònde no les pertenece ni les va a pertenecer

American Crusader wrote:

If yall need any help, give us a call, we got your backs.

yea cause U.S. betrayed to us, we was American Sovereigns Countries in our continent: Amèrica, but that year, 1831, they was TRAITORS, we told you, just if you help us today like brothers again you'll be pardoned, you gonna cooperate for good, budy??

elizabeth wrote:

How? In violence or peacefully?
Don't you dare to return in violence - you would be wiped from the face of the earth with all the British weapons on the Islands - and it would be the end of the sovereignty dispute (I met a man yesterday who believes the dispute was ended in 1982 but I don't believe that).
Wait - it won't be much longer and a solution will be found.

that depends of you know what

elizabeth wrote:

How? In violence or peacefully?
Don't you dare to return in violence - you would be wiped from the face of the earth with all the British weapons on the Islands - and it would be the end of the sovereignty dispute (I met a man yesterday who believes the dispute was ended in 1982 but I don't believe that).
Wait - it won't be much longer and a solution will be found.

don't gonna be like that, remember the Sinn Fein of the irish people and IRA, remember The Bòxers in China, remember the U.S. independence!! UK tried in past to invade all the planet with imperialist ambition, and if Cuba win to U.S. with Castro 60 years we can more for ever than that then, many combatants someday gonna do it, if can't the nation army, guerrillas gonna do it, and END...last brittish chapter in our history

venceremos wrote:

<quoted text>don't gonna be like that, remember the Sinn Fein of the irish people and IRA, remember The Bòxers in China, remember the U.S. independence!! UK tried in past to invade all the planet with imperialist ambition, and if Cuba win to U.S. with Castro 60 years we can more for ever than that then, many combatants someday gonna do it, if can't the nation army, guerrillas gonna do it, and END...last brittish chapter in our history

I think you do not understand. Britain will be quite happy to hand over sovereignty in its own way and its own time (not too long, I think).

BUT BUT BUT if Argentina does anything violent before that, it will be the last thing she does. It is not about Britain gathering an empire together - Britain already has the Falklands/Malvinas. But it won't necessarily wish to hold on to them - so the best thing Argentina can do is to remain quiet and to be friends to the people who have every right to live there in peace.

However, I do not think Argentina will learn to keep her mouth firmly shut.

elizabeth wrote:

You prove my point. Please do not accuse Mrs Kirchner of whipping up anger against the Falklands/Malvinas when she's talking about somewhere else.

I agree with you, Liz, but the Falklands war started with Argentine occupation of Port Faraday (Corbeta Uruguay) in the Sandwich Islands in 1976. The British just protested and Galtieri went on to occupy Pepys I. and, finally, the Falkland Is. Argentina has even less claim to (and probably even less interest in) the Sandwich Is. than the Falkland Is., so even mentioning claiming the Sandwich Is. doesn't help Argentina's case. Unfortunately, as you say in a later post, I don't think Argentina understands diplomacy.

Basil, first you are in Aotearoa, go ask to maories people about brittish and the violated Waitangi Treatment first and after talk about our Malvinas

It's funny seeing Argentinians whine about getting some islands they never had in the first place. Here's a free hint hombres: clean up your country. You've already got more than you can handle without subjecting some islanders who don't want you to your pathetic rule. And yes, if the British need us we will help b*tch slap you back home again should your mouth make promises your military can't keep.

In any and evry map you can watch the islands figure in the Mar Argentino, was historically our National Sea Territory and that brittish pirates violated the International Law to usurp in our country, all the planet know that and the only clowns to think different are just UK and US, you gonna lose the last war if you dont are fair and recognize the truth, stupid pirates go back to your home! by the way, you home is not Great Britain neither, just scottish, welsh, and irish belong there, there are the natives

There wasn't even an Argentina back then, silly. So you didn't have a "National Sea Territory" as much as you think you want one. You didn't even have any citizens there. The people who live there don't want you - as a country you are too screwed up. You might fix that first and then worry about islands 100s of miles away.

Violencia Es Mentir wrote:

In any and evry map you can watch the islands figure in the Mar Argentino, was historically our National Sea Territory and that brittish pirates violated the International Law to usurp in our country, all the planet know that and the only clowns to think different are just UK and US, you gonna lose the last war if you dont are fair and recognize the truth, stupid pirates go back to your home! by the way, you home is not Great Britain neither, just scottish, welsh, and irish belong there, there are the natives

You should try to read your history books, instead of just looking at the pictures. It would help you to realise just how pathetic your statement sounds.

For your education, please click on the link below to give you a greater understanding about the people that once lived on these islands before any of the land was called England,Scotland, Ireland and Wales.

http://encarta.msn.com/encyclopedia_761570598...

What kind Yorkshire man I am, always ready and willing to help those from a Third World country

:o)

Hey fool, i just said:

1)I know some Wales and descendants of the Welsh Community in the province of Chubut, who before was colony (Gaiman, Madryn, Trelew, etc). I go towards there often, and they said that, they always say that, not me. According to they say, you do not belong there, and they yes. They always mention the Plaid Cymru. They know recognize ours Malvinas when we talk about it, always.

2)In Cavanagh, Còrdoba, my province, where are many Irish descendants of immigrants, i just know one of the families there, of surname O'Shea, cause meet a professor of English who I visits once in her town, and when I ask to them about that they also say the same and WORSE, too much. NOT ME. They say: "English people do not belong to the British islands, we do, because we descend from our celtic natives".

You're a big FOOL.