Greeks are ashamed of their ethiopian blood

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I know plenty greeks who dont want to believe that they have ethiopian blood. why are they ashamed of it. is being ethiopian so bad?
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I know plenty greeks who dont want to believe that they have ethiopian blood. why are they ashamed of it. is being Ethiopian so bad?
I do not know they have any connection what so ever. They are Greek and semi white European and we are black, Ethiopians and African. So where is the connection. Just maybe, they are related to the Ottoman Arabs, that Ethiopians. After all, they were under them for quite a long time. Who really give a damn what they feel. Let them eat more Beklabba and olive oil

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Whatever infintecimally small part of greeks may be ethiopian, it has no effect on their own self image. Their diet, their music and their history are as old as anybodies, and dare I say older than ethiopian culture and civilization. Additionally, since they don't look the slightest bit african, why would they spend any time thinking about how some small genetic marker entered their population? What is the point of asking such a stupid question?
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Whatever infintecimally small part of greeks may be ethiopian, it has no effect on their own self image. Their diet, their music and their history are as old as anybodies, and dare I say older than ethiopian culture and civilization. Additionally, since they don't look the slightest bit african, why would they spend any time thinking about how some small genetic marker entered their population? What is the point of asking such a stupid question?
You're right. What is the point of this question?

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Whatever infintecimally small part of greeks may be ethiopian, it has no effect on their own self image. Their diet, their music and their history are as old as anybodies, and dare I say older than ethiopian culture and civilization. Additionally, since they don't look the slightest bit african, why would they spend any time thinking about how some small genetic marker entered their population? What is the point of asking such a stupid question?
...no, you are wrong i have seen many greeks who could pass as habeshas if they wouldnt have this pale skin. and secondly: you said greek culture is older than ethiopian ? did i understand you right ? if yes, then you are clueless.

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<quoted text>...no, you are wrong i have seen many greeks who could pass as habeshas if they wouldnt have this pale skin. and secondly: you said greek culture is older than ethiopian ? did i understand you right ? if yes, then you are clueless.
Hellenic history, from what I've read, goes back several centuries before the founding of Rome. From what i've read about Ethiopia, the history goes back a couple of centuries BC, so that would make greece older. As for greeks passing As ethiopians, from an anecdotal perspective, I would say none of the several tens of thousands that live in my neighbourhood could pass. Some have perhaps kinkier hair relative to other Europeans, but they represent an minority of Greeks you see on a day to day basis. Additionally, and I would say crucially, the relative paleness of greek skin, as pale as I am when not exposed to constant Mediterranian sunshine, suggests a quite large genetic gulf between greeks and any african or south asian population. There are of course always exceptions, as the flow of people has been quite fluid since the founding of civilization, but the expression of anything african in as european a people as the greeks would be surely to be peripheral at best.

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<quoted text>...no, you are wrong i have seen many greeks who could pass as habeshas if they wouldnt have this pale skin. and secondly: you said greek culture is older than ethiopian ? did i understand you right ? if yes, then you are clueless.
I decided to actually look it up for reference. So one, fuck you for calling me clueless. You had no reason to address me that way, but you chose to out of the rotteness of your own heart. So the the historical record is as such, the Mycennaens, early greece, emerged in 1600 BC. The minoans on Crete before that, though you could quibble and say they aren't the same people. Ancient Aksum Emerged in 940 BC, which is close to 7 centuries LATER not earlier. So not only were you rude, you didn't have the work ethic to do a search on Wikipedia, which makes you wrong, rude and either lazy or stupid. I suspect lazy

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Hellenic history, from what I've read, goes back several centuries before the founding of Rome. From what i've read about Ethiopia, the history goes back a couple of centuries BC, so that would make greece older. As for greeks passing As ethiopians, from an anecdotal perspective, I would say none of the several tens of thousands that live in my neighbourhood could pass. Some have perhaps kinkier hair relative to other Europeans, but they represent an minority of Greeks you see on a day to day basis. Additionally, and I would say crucially, the relative paleness of greek skin, as pale as I am when not exposed to constant Mediterranian sunshine, suggests a quite large genetic gulf between greeks and any african or south asian population. There are of course always exceptions, as the flow of people has been quite fluid since the founding of civilization, but the expression of anything african in as european a people as the greeks would be surely to be peripheral at best.
...you are wrong the sabean culture in ethiopia is at least 3000 years old. this proven by archeological findings in ethiopia. german professor helmut ziegert just recently confirmed that.

the so calles kerma culture in ethiopia is even older than that. it was established around 4000 BC, some even say 7000 BC. you should inform yourself before spitting your rhymes. even the ancient egyptians confirmed that their civilization came from the horn of africa, sinc ethiopia is part of the horn of africa it is clear. and btw. genetic studies confirmed that greek dna haplogroup e3b originated in ethiopia and immigrated around 8000-7000 BC to the meditirian including greece. it is clear that this individuals brought also their culture to greece. even greek mythology said that the ethiopians are the most handsome and just race in the world and that their supreme god zeus only visited the ethiopians for dinner when he came down to earth.

you are absolutely on the wrong track dude. ethiopia is superior.

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...and i dont know what you mean with kinkier hair ? many unmixed ethiopians have absolutely straight hair. i was talking about the fine classical facial features which many greece have that reminds me of ethiopian faces. or do you think the facial features of the good looking greeks fell from the sky ? matter of fact, those features evolved in the horn, everybody knows that human phenotypes were all present in ethiopia before asia and europe was even populated. the so called caucasoid feature are aethiopid features. europeans just wanted to claim that those traits are exclusive to eurasians and africans are all flat nosed with big lips and kinky hair like you wanted to imply i suppose. europeans are nothong but depigmented ethiopians get over it.

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<quoted text>...you are wrong the sabean culture in ethiopia is at least 3000 years old. this proven by archeological findings in ethiopia. german professor helmut ziegert just recently confirmed that.
the so calles kerma culture in ethiopia is even older than that. it was established around 4000 BC, some even say 7000 BC. you should inform yourself before spitting your rhymes. even the ancient egyptians confirmed that their civilization came from the horn of africa, sinc ethiopia is part of the horn of africa it is clear. and btw. genetic studies confirmed that greek dna haplogroup e3b originated in ethiopia and immigrated around 8000-7000 BC to the meditirian including greece. it is clear that this individuals brought also their culture to greece. even greek mythology said that the ethiopians are the most handsome and just race in the world and that their supreme god zeus only visited the ethiopians for dinner when he came down to earth.
you are absolutely on the wrong track dude. ethiopia is superior.
Superior in what regard? In terms of contributions to modern culture, greek philosophers and scientists loom like giants. The same can't bee said of ancient ethiopians, though i'm sure there are regional influences. As for the 7000 BC number there is no support for that at all. The oldest known civilization is the mesopotamians, and as far as we know, that is the root of civilization in the western part of the world (the chinese appear to have developed on there own later on). Now as for the genetic infuluence, as I mentioned before, the possibility of a small genetic impact is not the same as a large genetic impact. Greeks may have small genetic markers linked to modern ethiopians, and that is interesting, but there is not a big influence on greek faces. Greeks are very white. If there was a pronounced influence of ethiopian intermarriage into greek culture, greeks would look more like southern yemenis. Your subjective view of greek faces is based on who knows what, but greeks look kind of like their closest neighbours, which is what you would expect since people have traditionally migrated close to their home territories. This is obviously different today. Back to the point though, greeks look like any other european though they look more like turks and italians than they do say russians. Having spent my entire life in the greek party of my city surrounded by thousands of them, i'm in a good position to know. You just attribute the faces of attractive greeks you've seen to your own culture due to you're own ethnocentrism and self importance. Your a narcissist not a scientist
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<quoted text> ethiopia is superior.
It's only superior in AIDS, poverty, hunger, and begging the West for aid. You're not even posting from your country, even if you were in ethiopia, you couldn't post cause it has no computers. Do you guys even have toilets?
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...and i dont know what you mean with kinkier hair ? many unmixed ethiopians have absolutely straight hair. i was talking about the fine classical facial features which many greece have that reminds me of ethiopian faces. or do you think the facial features of the good looking greeks fell from the sky ? matter of fact, those features evolved in the horn, everybody knows that human phenotypes were all present in ethiopia before asia and europe was even populated. the so called caucasoid feature are aethiopid features. europeans just wanted to claim that those traits are exclusive to eurasians and africans are all flat nosed with big lips and kinky hair like you wanted to imply i suppose. europeans are nothong but depigmented ethiopians get over it.
We Whites evolved from Eurasia. We never evolved from Africa. The ceasepool that is ethiopia has nothing to do with us.

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Superior in what regard? In terms of contributions to modern culture, greek philosophers and scientists loom like giants. The same can't bee said of ancient ethiopians, though i'm sure there are regional influences. As for the 7000 BC number there is no support for that at all. The oldest known civilization is the mesopotamians, and as far as we know, that is the root of civilization in the western part of the world (the chinese appear to have developed on there own later on). Now as for the genetic infuluence, as I mentioned before, the possibility of a small genetic impact is not the same as a large genetic impact. Greeks may have small genetic markers linked to modern ethiopians, and that is interesting, but there is not a big influence on greek faces. Greeks are very white. If there was a pronounced influence of ethiopian intermarriage into greek culture, greeks would look more like southern yemenis. Your subjective view of greek faces is based on who knows what, but greeks look kind of like their closest neighbours, which is what you would expect since people have traditionally migrated close to their home territories. This is obviously different today. Back to the point though, greeks look like any other european though they look more like turks and italians than they do say russians. Having spent my entire life in the greek party of my city surrounded by thousands of them, i'm in a good position to know. You just attribute the faces of attractive greeks you've seen to your own culture due to you're own ethnocentrism and self importance. Your a narcissist not a scientist
...lol @ greeks are very white !

secondly you dont have no clue about how ethiopians look. greeks are nothing compared to ethiopian history and culture. its obvious. now go and hang yourself.
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<quoted text>...lol @ greeks are very white !
secondly you dont have no clue about how ethiopians look. greeks are nothing compared to ethiopian history and culture. its obvious. now go and hang yourself.
Then why aren't you in ethiopia to do whatever it is you do there? Germany won't miss you.
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It's only superior in AIDS, poverty, hunger, and begging the West for aid. You're not even posting from your country, even if you were in ethiopia, you couldn't post cause it has no computers. Do you guys even have toilets?
What we have here is a live KKK or the member of the Nazi, who are planning to annihilate black people. Wonder, since I have seen your kinds in my city or in Winnipeg exactly as your descried, the sad thing is that in a such a rich country be it Canada or the US, you relatives are dying of starvation and all the illness you can imagine and sleeping under the bridge.

So little boy, look around you or rather, look under the bridge or the overpass to locate your relatives.
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Then why aren't you in ethiopia to do whatever it is you do there? Germany won't miss you.
Have asked your father from where he run away from, before he came to Canada. For you know, he must have been in SS squad, or a simple beggar, who landed any place that will take him in. Ask you daddy little boy. In the meantime, as you chew on it, take your Prozac.

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<quoted text>...lol @ greeks are very white !
secondly you dont have no clue about how ethiopians look. greeks are nothing compared to ethiopian history and culture. its obvious. now go and hang yourself.
I don't see why you would laugh at the notion that greeks are very white. Thats just what they look like.

Now in terms of global cultural impact, If I say Archimedes, you say... If I say Plato, you say... If I say Pythagoras, you say...(you can fill these in, it's not just a rhetorical exercise). I contend that you won't be able to find 3 ethiopians that have had as large an impact on global culture as those three men.

As for the Sabeans, based on what I read, they were a yemeni kingdom, that appears to also have colonized a part of the horn, though I couldn't tell whether that meant in Modern Ethiopa, Eritrea, Djibouti or Somalia. Their period of existence is sometime in after 2000 BC to a century BC. To call them an ethiopian civilization however is intellectually bankrupt. you would be better off emphasizing the ethiopian run kingdoms of ancient egypt, which you sort of touched on, which I have actually seen remnants of at the King Tut exhibit in Toronto (obviously there are artifacts spanning a great deal of time, not just stuff related to Tut). As for your last statement, go fuck yourself
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I decided to actually look it up for reference. So one, fuck you for calling me clueless. You had no reason to address me that way, but you chose to out of the rotteness of your own heart. So the the historical record is as such, the Mycennaens, early greece, emerged in 1600 BC. The minoans on Crete before that, though you could quibble and say they aren't the same people. Ancient Aksum Emerged in 940 BC, which is close to 7 centuries LATER not earlier. So not only were you rude, you didn't have the work ethic to do a search on Wikipedia, which makes you wrong, rude and either lazy or stupid. I suspect lazy
Well, when you come to ethiopian forum and run your ignorant mouth about things you don't know, then it is ok for others to call you clueless, because you are clueless. If you can't handle that, then you can leave the ethiopian forum. Ethiopia exists long before ancient Aksum. Keep your wiki to yourself for your ignorant self. But as for Ethiopian history, let the ethiopians speak for themselves. if you have hard time accepting what ethiopians tell you, then you are free to leave their forum.

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Well, when you come to ethiopian forum and run your ignorant mouth about things you don't know, then it is ok for others to call you clueless, because you are clueless. If you can't handle that, then you can leave the ethiopian forum. Ethiopia exists long before ancient Aksum. Keep your wiki to yourself for your ignorant self. But as for Ethiopian history, let the ethiopians speak for themselves. if you have hard time accepting what ethiopians tell you, then you are free to leave their forum.
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Your forum? White people run Topix.com . I bet a White person moderates this forum, as well. Your people have invented nothing and added nothing to this world. It is you who should leave this forum and go milk a camel or herd goats or go eat gorilla flesh. You are nothing but parasites feeding off a host: White people.

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Well, when you come to ethiopian forum and run your ignorant mouth about things you don't know, then it is ok for others to call you clueless, because you are clueless. If you can't handle that, then you can leave the ethiopian forum. Ethiopia exists long before ancient Aksum. Keep your wiki to yourself for your ignorant self. But as for Ethiopian history, let the ethiopians speak for themselves. if you have hard time accepting what ethiopians tell you, then you are free to leave their forum.
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