****Breakin news****Mengistu Hailemariam died of massive heart attck today

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General Ali

Jersey City, NJ

#1 Apr 3, 2013
According to the news from zimbabwe national tv report, the former bloody dictator, mengistu hailemariam suffered massive heart attack yesterday and rushed to hospital in Harare. He was already lost his conciousness by the time he arrived. In an effort to revive him the doctors put him on life support for 24 hours and latter he was pronounced dead at the hospital . http://www.newzimbabwe.com/
Details are being expected as a lot of mourners are being fled to his residence and hospital.
yosef

Europe

#3 Apr 3, 2013
how sad!
Kontu

Berwick, Australia

#5 Apr 4, 2013
Nebil wrote:
I don't think this news is true. He will be dearly missed if he dies sooner or later. I know for a fact many Ethiopians will shed genuine tears for his death. He made some bad choices but he was a truly patriotic Ethiopian unlike the one who came after him. 
You hypocritical tool, you have a pop at every chance you get at the current government even Tigrians, but now you are praising a monster like him - wow!
Ezana

Ethiopia

#6 Apr 4, 2013
Unlike the Agame Meles, Mengistu is a bitter-sweet man.
Nebil

Ethiopia

#7 Apr 4, 2013
Kontu wrote:
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You hypocritical tool, you have a pop at every chance you get at the current government even Tigrians, but now you are praising a monster like him - wow!
Sorry if I gave you a wrong impression that I care about what the people of Tigray think. I say what I believe in. Mengistu was a gazillion times more patriotic that the whole TPLF cadres combined. Like I said before he made some bad choices. His major fault was to flee Ethiopia and let Ethiopia fragment into pieces instead of fighting until his last breath. 
Kontu

Berwick, Australia

#8 Apr 4, 2013
Nebil wrote:
<quoted text> Sorry if I gave you a wrong impression that I care about what the people of Tigray think. I say what I believe in. Mengistu was a gazillion times more patriotic that the whole TPLF cadres combined. Like I said before he made some bad choices. His major fault was to flee Ethiopia and let Ethiopia fragment into pieces instead of fighting until his last breath. 
In other words you admire a coward who abandoned you, when push came to shove. I'm not asking you to like Tigraian or TPLF - that's your decision, it's just baffling, you like one leader who was "supposedly" patriotic, but killed 1000's of his "countrymen" and you hate the current leadership for the same things and oppression etc.(according to you not me btw). How does that work?
Nebil

Ethiopia

#10 Apr 6, 2013
Kontu wrote:
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In other words you admire a coward who abandoned you, when push came to shove. I'm not asking you to like Tigraian or TPLF - that's your decision, it's just baffling, you like one leader who was "supposedly" patriotic, but killed 1000's of his "countrymen" and you hate the current leadership for the same things and oppression etc.(according to you not me btw). How does that work?
 You can accuse Mengistu H/Mariam of many things but he was not a person who was scared for his own life. Even his ardent detractors give him credit for his bravado. He was a hands-on leader and even as a president he directly went to Eritrea, Tigray and Somalia fronts to conduct wars personally. I believe the only reason he fled Ethiopia is to avoid further bloodshed in the capital city not otherwise based on his track record. 
The main difference between Mengistu and Meles (TPLF) is their intentions. For instance, Mengistu granted 'land to the tiller' which was one of the noblest achievements of his.(contrast that with - TPLF's stripping farmers off their lands unjustly). But that same noble policy of Mengistu resulted in famine because farmers were unable to manage their lands properly. But that doesn't take away from the fact that Mengistu did the right thing.(contrast that with - even if TPLF giving land to 'investors' results in 'better output', that doesn't take away from the fact that TPLF is doing the wrong thing since the ordinary, poor farmer is worse than ever before. The solution is not chasing away the poor farmer but enabling and empowering him to be more productive.)
Apart from Mengistu's brutal crackdown on local opposition, his policy towards fighting back the rebel insurgency in Eritrea and Tigray was also a noble cause. No leader in his right mind would stand idly by and let his country break apart. However he could have kept the balance between force and compromise. He could have granted Eritrea an autonomy while being a part of Ethiopia as per Eritrean rebels' initial reason for rebellion. He could have shared power with TPLF since TPLF craves for power so much.(Still, I'm not sure if TPLF would have been satisfied for anything less than total subjugation of Ethiopia under their rule).
On the contrary, you can barely find a noble cause behind many of TPLF's engagements, only sinister interior motives. 
We can go and on but I guarantee you Mengistu will come out on top of Meles (plus the whole TPLF junta) when history is remembered many years from now.
z_truth

Washington, DC

#11 Apr 6, 2013
Both of them are brutal imcompetent buffoons who did looted Ethiopia and did nothing for Ethiopia. And Desalegn will be no different
Kontu

Berwick, Australia

#12 Apr 6, 2013
Nebil wrote:
<quoted text> You can accuse Mengistu H/Mariam of many things but he was not a person who was scared for his own life. Even his ardent detractors give him credit for his bravado. He was a hands-on leader and even as a president he directly went to Eritrea, Tigray and Somalia fronts to conduct wars personally. I believe the only reason he fled Ethiopia is to avoid further bloodshed in the capital city not otherwise based on his track record. 
The main difference between Mengistu and Meles (TPLF) is their intentions. For instance, Mengistu granted 'land to the tiller' which was one of the noblest achievements of his.(contrast that with - TPLF's stripping farmers off their lands unjustly). But that same noble policy of Mengistu resulted in famine because farmers were unable to manage their lands properly. But that doesn't take away from the fact that Mengistu did the right thing.(contrast that with - even if TPLF giving land to 'investors' results in 'better output', that doesn't take away from the fact that TPLF is doing the wrong thing since the ordinary, poor farmer is worse than ever before. The solution is not chasing away the poor farmer but enabling and empowering him to be more productive.)
Apart from Mengistu's brutal crackdown on local opposition, his policy towards fighting back the rebel insurgency in Eritrea and Tigray was also a noble cause. No leader in his right mind would stand idly by and let his country break apart. However he could have kept the balance between force and compromise. He could have granted Eritrea an autonomy while being a part of Ethiopia as per Eritrean rebels' initial reason for rebellion. He could have shared power with TPLF since TPLF craves for power so much.(Still, I'm not sure if TPLF would have been satisfied for anything less than total subjugation of Ethiopia under their rule).
On the contrary, you can barely find a noble cause behind many of TPLF's engagements, only sinister interior motives. 
We can go and on but I guarantee you Mengistu will come out on top of Meles (plus the whole TPLF junta) when history is remembered many years from now.
At the end of the day; he is an evil person who killed a lot people, that's a fact - nothing you say will change that. You can't just pick and choose the "supposed" good qualities of Mengustu to suit your argument and highlight the bad things of current leadership also to suit your argument.
Ethiopian

Bangkok, Thailand

#13 Apr 6, 2013
To Nebil

I do not agree with your argument, although Everything depends on what assumptions you have in your mind.

1) Many people think Mengistu was patriotic . But he was only fighting to retain his power not to keep the integrity of the country. Because of his political stupidity, inspite of all the advices, he destroyed the country and run away to Harare. To remind you , already TPLF was in Ambo and EPLF around Asmara, which means everything was finished. He needed to fight another 20 years to push them back to their bases
2) Mengistu was brutal that killed not less than half million people and Government high officials including the Emperor with out any judicial process. I do not think Males did the same. Your comparison is totally wrong.

3) True . Mengistu gave land to the tiller. The problem is he snatched his product at a very low price and made him poorer. By any measurement, Ethiopian farmers are far better than Mengistu's period. It is not also a bad thing to give land to foreign investors to develop it. Isn't this normal in many countries.

4) Mengistu never allowed opposition parties, infact opposition parties were banned by constitution.

5) I do not think many Ethiopians shed their tears for Mengistu that killed their people and destroyed their country.
factfinder

Kitchener, Canada

#14 Apr 11, 2013
you guys did you know the real history which mengustu did to eritreans as well as to ethiopians why you trying to cover up what he have done during his time ?
Ezana

Minneapolis, MN

#15 Apr 11, 2013
Ezana wrote:
Unlike the Agame Meles, Mengistu is a bitter-sweet man.
Mengestu is a baria dikala.

MELES is god
newuser

Portland, OR

#17 Apr 11, 2013
His excellency Issayas Afworki is clearly immortal! Enemies give him reason to be the last one breathing.
newuser

Portland, OR

#18 Apr 11, 2013
Ezana wrote:
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Mengestu is a baria dikala.
MELES is god
Dead God? LOLOL
mengistu hero

Ethiopia

#19 Apr 13, 2013
we love him
Ethiopian

Ethiopia

#20 Apr 13, 2013
newuser wrote:
His excellency Issayas Afworki is clearly immortal! Enemies give him reason to be the last one breathing.
Hahaha! You think we Ethiopians are jealous of Isayas because he has not died yet? Hahaha! Your old man days are numbered and his beloved friend Gadiffi is waiting him burning in hell. One fact I would like to remind you is that all Ethiopians will have a party drinking and celebrating his death.
Bira

Aurora, CO

#21 Apr 23, 2013
Kontu wrote:
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You hypocritical tool, you have a pop at every chance you get at the current government even Tigrians, but now you are praising a monster like him - wow!
lol you are very funny for comparing the hero with stupid ass Mengstiu. anyways leaders come and go RIP Menge you have been a real gangster
Yusuf

Cheyenne, WY

#22 Apr 23, 2013
I don believe this..if this is fact say RIP.
shadow fox

Ethiopia

#23 Apr 23, 2013
he is the only hero in our country. it was sad to hear is passing. rest in peace!!!!!!!!!!
Yoseg Gedefaw

United States

#24 Apr 23, 2013
I don't think this news is true. if it is God rest his life in peace !!!/ RIP/

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