Gurage, the busimness people of Ethiopia may be wrong

I honestly blieve that Gurage as the business people of Ethiopia is not worth the name. Contextually, doesn't make sense because it's not realistic.

By definition, entreprenuers are creative, understanding the heat beat of sciety, going along with it and profitting from it without necessarily chnaging it but ahelping it progress on its path, chosen, designed or imposed.
You would think, Gurages as business people would quickly grasp the Deg regime and benefit from it as entreprenuers. Instead, most Gurage businesse are said to have clashed with it and their stores summarily closed or their properties ceized.

You would again think that these allegedly business-minded smart group of people would coolectively support the TPLF government of Meles Zeradwa to revenge against Mengistu who oppressed them and make money out of their alliance with new shepherds in town. They failed to do that. Meles, out of frustration, said that it was difficult to organize Gurages albeit without pointing accusing fingers but understandable enough.

We know the the Ethiopian constitution permists the development of ethnic languages for use in government, media and schools. Most Ethiopian ethnic groups use their languages in government, media and primary school education. Gurage has not approved the use of Gurage Af for use in Gurage government admnistration, media or schools.

Any region can propose a project such as hospitals, colleges and universities, irrigation and farms, bridges and highways as they would grow the economy, increase employment, health and social benefits to the local people and ask the federal government to fund it. Gurage zone government has not won a single federal grant for any civil project within Gurge region.
There are no known Gurage media such newspapers, websites or radio stations though you would think nationally famous business people wouldn't lose on making money on the growig public press business.
There are no physically accessible Gurage social addresses such as Gurage culture and heritage, self-help or development offices, new comers welcome houses, Gurage yellow pages, etc, aginst the background that many Ethiopian ethnic groups have such social organizations.

You would think that such business people of Ethiopian metropolis of many cities they would produce fine intellectuals who won broadcast media or get published opinions on how to solve Ethiopia's endless political quagmires.

I am wondering whether the Haile Sellasie media mocked Gurages as business people of the country and that most Ethiopians, including me, failed to get the parody.

Tigrays and Amaras, eventhoigh you're hurting deep inside from my scathing and knife-sharp words against your greedines and rotten corrupt morals, thank you for your respect for Gurage, for not messing with me in this threaad, for giving us the Gurages the privacy we need to discuss matters that concern only Gurage.
Thank you and continue to behave nice like all obedient doonkeys.

Ker Yehir Gurage: Teddy Afro
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

Alex who are you to tell us what to do. We enjoy and happy to marry ,to work, and to live with any Ethiopian. Where ever we go, we feel Ethiopian and we are freindly with any race , reliogien or personality. Being respectful and hard work are our values. Hate, crime,gelousy, and racism seems your area of interest. Just sit back and try to think any Gurage you know. U got it.

Bireda wrote:

Alex who are you to tell us what to do. We enjoy and happy to marry ,to work, and to live with any Ethiopian. Where ever we go, we feel Ethiopian and we are freindly with any race , reliogien or personality. Being respectful and hard work are our values. Hate, crime,gelousy, and racism seems your area of interest. Just sit back and try to think any Gurage you know. U got it.

Mwanhete ahe? or who the hell are to talk to me like that? Your criticism of me has nothing to do with what I wrote in this thread.

Yes it does Alex. We dont use Guragigna not because we hate or we ashame on it, it has its own reason. Still there are a number of this group of people who use only their language. you tried to tell us we dont care about our language or developement. We are the first Ethiopian ethnic group to organize developent organization. We pass through it and we become succesful kut of it . By he way do you know that more that 85% schools and infrastructures are made by the people without any help from the govt.

Bireda wrote:

Yes it does Alex. We dont use Guragigna not because we hate or we ashame on it, it has its own reason. Still there are a number of this group of people who use only their language. you tried to tell us we dont care about our language or developement. We are the first Ethiopian ethnic group to organize developent organization. We pass through it and we become succesful kut of it . By he way do you know that more that 85% schools and infrastructures are made by the people without any help from the govt.

Okay teach me. I thought I know everything there is about Gurage's problems. So, please, tell me why Gurage ouldn't overcome the so called 'its own reasons". How do you know about this or guessing? Don't you agree Gurage is much lagging behind even the smallest and poorest of Ethiopian ethnic groups.

The Gurage Roads Construction Organization, the idea of it as a self-help effort, was a top-down programme of the Haile Sellasie government. Ethnic groups were advised to start self-help organizations, raise money and equal amounts of that money was given them by the government. Even then, I once read a report that the Gurage Roads Construction organization owed Ethiopian government for manpower, machine costs and consulting/management E$6 million birr.
85% of schools made by privately raised funds of the public, not built by the government. You're telling me that while the rest of Ethiopia gets superior schools built and managed by the government of Ethiopia, only Gurage, as if it's an independent country, as if it's not an Ethiopian taxpayer, volunteered to do so. So, you think it's smart?

Do Gurages understand Ethiopia and how government operates? When I say Gurages, I did not mean the few political elites of Gurage who happen to worthless uncle toms, but the average Gurage. I doubt they do. But, who will blame them. The average man's sensitivity of any group to the nature of tne Ethiopian governments has been taught by the few political elites of the group, the Gurage political elites either misinform you about the ethiopian government or preach you praises and peace for the Ethiopian government.

Cooperation is among gurage's unique values. The problem is politics & leaders who organise the people. Gurage forced to organize under SNNPR and since 1997E.C. election almost have no leadership role in the region. Current regional leaders facilitate everything to develope their Zones,especially Wolita,Silite & Sidamo. Some language usage difference ( yetenbi, yetegnbi,yebsabi, yeabi, yemtabi.....for 'Welcome') among Woredas is also a bottlenecks for the unification. Alex, if you are a concerned gurage focus on causes for root problems & solutions.

There may be lessons I can learn. But, we agree that one of Gurage problems are its leaders.

1.They did not oppose when Gurage lost its state status, State #7. They do not report problems they encounter being part of the SNNPR.

2. The Gurages dialects are so close to each other and the people willing to cooperate with each other, but the Gurage political leaders have not implemented a one language policy for Gurages children to learn in it, for Gurage government to use it in administration, and for business transactions.

3. The Gurage political leaders have not established a journalistic papers to report on and unite the Gurage people. Now, when radios are legally allowed to establish, no such thing for Gurages in an agreed upon Gurage language.

gurage give us trable...caz it divide... silte..chebo..bet 7.... you kno. that why it dont have state. if it get state...he say to himsalf..it my state..i want to divelop. than he stop use amara langoge...but now it not do that. he say i not my state so i act like amara.... but he want fyte...coz he not by himself. if he by himself..wolamo...hadya..silti ...sidama...fyte him. he stop trable. but i donot know why gurage not give a state? somebady know? gurage is by self. but he not have state? that why he start trable. sh***t. i am angree!!!!! alexo ..good job....!!

The Last True Tigraway wrote:

gurage give us trable...caz it divide... silte..chebo..bet 7.... you kno. that why it dont have state. if it get state...he say to himsalf..it my state..i want to divelop. than he stop use amara langoge...but now it not do that. he say i not my state so i act like amara.... but he want fyte...coz he not by himself. if he by himself..wolamo...hadya..silti ...sidama...fyte him. he stop trable. but i donot know why gurage not give a state? somebady know? gurage is by self. but he not have state? that why he start trable. sh***t. i am angree!!!!! alexo ..good job....!!

Thank you for co-signing. I wish Gurages agree with such simple concepts than act like confused, unfocused and lash out insult on me.
Wolamo(hadiyya), Silte, Sidama won't fight him if Gurage wants to return to its original status of statehood. They themselves want to go back to their original statehood, including Sidama. But, the feds will; however the feds do not have constitutional or legal right.

Alex wrote:

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Thank you for co-signing. I wish Gurages agree with such simple concepts than act like confused, unfocused and lash out insult on me.
Wolamo(hadiyya), Silte, Sidama won't fight him if Gurage wants to return to its original status of statehood. They themselves want to go back to their original statehood, including Sidama. But, the feds will; however the feds do not have constitutional or legal right.

alexo...that why gurage give trable. if u gives gurage regene.... he difend it.... but sidama wont some of land....but also wolamo. that why gurage keep quit. if he not quit...all sidama and wolamo kills him...I not know why PMZEN not wont to do it. it is the best solshin ... to makes gurage shat up. but i thinks it silte guy....redwan...he afred of gurage. that why he not let them have regen. we mast do it fast.

The Last True Tigraway wrote:

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alexo...that why gurage give trable. if u gives gurage regene.... he difend it.... but sidama wont some of land....but also wolamo. that why gurage keep quit. if he not quit...all sidama and wolamo kills him...I not know why PMZEN not wont to do it. it is the best solshin ... to makes gurage shat up. but i thinks it silte guy....redwan...he afred of gurage. that why he not let them have regen. we mast do it fast.

PMZEN, god shorthand. Redwan is not from Silte. I think he is a Tigray Muslim, president of Ethiopian Islamic supreme council. Where is the connection to Gurage?
All the ethnic groups in SNNPR want to have back their state status. Sidamas have written so many articles complaining that their state staus was revoked unconstitutionally. None of them will give Gurage trouble. To be smart, I will coordinate a southwest Ethiopia movement of all ethnic groups to have their state staus returned. Sidama started doing that but PMZEN bribed the agitators.

Alex wrote:

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PMZEN, god shorthand. Redwan is not from Silte. I think he is a Tigray Muslim, president of Ethiopian Islamic supreme council. Where is the connection to Gurage?
All the ethnic groups in SNNPR want to have back their state status. Sidamas have written so many articles complaining that their state staus was revoked unconstitutionally. None of them will give Gurage trouble. To be smart, I will coordinate a southwest Ethiopia movement of all ethnic groups to have their state staus returned. Sidama started doing that but PMZEN bribed the agitators.

i saport you wedi adey...good job. why PMZEN let hapen...? do you now?

The Last True Tigraway wrote:

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i saport you wedi adey...good job. why PMZEN let hapen...? do you now?

I don't exactly know. The name itself SNNPR for Southern Nations, Nationalities and Peoples Region is unscientific, unrealistic and does not reflec objective reality. That region of Ethiopia is located in the southwest of Ethiopia but not south of Ethiopia which is occupied by Oromo. The size or population of a tribe doesn't make it nation, nationality or peoples. All ethnic groups or lingo-cultural tribes constituting themselves as historical entities with psychological affinity toward each other are nations.

Southwest nations lost their status after the TPLF internal split in 2000. All were forced to choose Amharic as a common language. All were forced to make Awasa their regional capital. They have to contribute a portion of their annual budget in renovating Awasa as SNNPR capital in addition to their tax contributions to the federal government. I am not sure but it runs something like they have to choose an Awasa person as the permanent chair of the SNNPR assembly.
Awasa is very far for Gurage and Omo vally nations who live in the far west of SNNPR, near Jimma.

Wolita & Silite believed politically loyal to EPRDF after their contribution to 1997 E.C election. As a gurage, Hadya , kembata,... What ever you do good it's hard to get top positions. This have allowed wolaita and silite motivate their people morally,technically & financially while others stay dormant. For instant Sani Redi, from silite, Regional Agriculture and Rural Development Head and Vise president of SNNPR have invited different NGOs and Gov't Seftinate programmes in silite zone than others. Their businessmen also have garantee to undertake business freelly in any area of SNNPR. Even in Sidama zone top private coffee processors & wholesalers are from silite. So where is the advantage to stay unit under SNNPR. Diaspora gurages wake up! Your contribution is much available.

Alex wrote:

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I don't exactly know. The name itself SNNPR for Southern Nations, Nationalities and Peoples Region is unscientific, unrealistic and does not reflec objective reality. That region of Ethiopia is located in the southwest of Ethiopia but not south of Ethiopia which is occupied by Oromo. The size or population of a tribe doesn't make it nation, nationality or peoples. All ethnic groups or lingo-cultural tribes constituting themselves as historical entities with psychological affinity toward each other are nations.
Southwest nations lost their status after the TPLF internal split in 2000. All were forced to choose Amharic as a common language. All were forced to make Awasa their regional capital. They have to contribute a portion of their annual budget in renovating Awasa as SNNPR capital in addition to their tax contributions to the federal government. I am not sure but it runs something like they have to choose an Awasa person as the permanent chair of the SNNPR assembly.
Awasa is very far for Gurage and Omo vally nations who live in the far west of SNNPR, near Jimma.

I agree. It wasn't fair acknowledged Harari as a regional state while others lost. EPRDF must revised its regional structure.

kertina wrote:

<quoted text>I agree. It wasn't fair acknowledged Harari as a regional state while others lost. EPRDF must revised its regional structure.

I think Harar was created as a state at the same time as the southwest nations. Why should it have been dissolved?
The game to play against Meles strategy of amalgamation of diverse groups into incohesive entiy is not "Okay Harar, if we lost status, yuo should, too. Go down with us".

The number of population & area of Harari not more than Kebena, Mareko, Alaba, Konso, Gedio, Yem, Temaro, Kunama, Saho, Dawro,.....etc.In federal countries, states must be limited on a managable number and size. There was no real evidence when Harari selected as regional state. Adere rich business men played their role through handling Government officials.