Eleven Years After 9/11: NYC Mourns, Egyptians Tear Down US Flag

Sep 12, 2012 Full story: Arutz Sheva Israel News 96

On Tuesday, people all over America, as well as Israel, rmourned the anniversary of the 9/11 plane hijackings and terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center in Lower Manhattan, the field near Shanksville, Pennsylvania and the Pentagon building in Washington D.C. , all of which took the lives of some 3,000 Americans.

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#85 Sep 13, 2012
Spathis wrote:
<quoted text>Seems to me you are living in a country of 'hate'
Seems to me you are a little dhimmi who is bend over - ready for islamic teaching. Not one drop of greek or english in you.....

“O'er the land of the free ? ”

Since: Jan 09

Don't Tread On Me

#86 Sep 13, 2012
shameless-li wrote:
Were you born in the USA .

If so what year ?
alex

Cairo, Egypt

#87 Sep 13, 2012
Andre3000 wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't know where to begin. But let's take the personal perspective first:
1. When I was a young man one of my friends were killed by a follower of muhammed. He stuck a knife into his heart while he was sleeping. At that time I didn't have a problem with people following muhammed. I didn't blame his religion for his coward act. During trial his mother screamt in court. At first the interpreter didn't want to translate what she said.
The judge forced her. It turnt out that she said Allah was on her son's side and that infidels deserved to be slaughtered. I never forget the hate in her eyes. I never understood it.
These cases have been repeated from time to time with others being killed by muslims. Sometimes in traffic accidents, sometimes in regular slaughters. The story is very often the same. Muslims use their religion to justify their acts.
Furthermore I have lived on the Peninsula of Hate and seen how racist and hateful muslims are to religious minorities. But the discrimination is not just de facto on the Peninsula of Hate. It's also de jure. A nonmuslim is not worth as much as a muslim according to islamic law.
I could go on and on with the bad experiences I have had with followers of muhammed. There aren't any end to it.
These were personal experience but when I started to study the religion - I wanted to be assured that I had just been unlucky with my many encounters - the real shock came. But that is an entirely different story.
OK..will take it from here..lets agree upon some rules to lead this discusion so we do not get lost between sentences.
first we have to differenciate between our own experiences and general facts.
second, lets not make judgements unless we put facts on table
third,we have to separate between cultures and religions
fourth.lets agree upon a fact that in each society there is good and bad.
so..even I am not so convinced with your story but I will make an assumption that it was true...
the killing act of this man is not justified or allowed in islam..
so this man just expressed himself not his religion..the mother's act is also not relevant to islam
in Quoran..if you kill a human being, it is like you killed all human race..its one of the big sins..

so here we are talking about a man and his mother that were insane and no one to blame but them even though they used the words (God) and islam. remmber we agreed to separate between the religion and culture..here this is a culture or way of thinking ..nothing from religion.

there are many christians use the religon as well but you can not blame the bible or jesus...lets put our negative behaviours away from our religion cause its our fault and poor understanding to the real spirit of religion..not all moslems think or behave like that man and his mother my friend.

when the American soldiers pee on dead bodies in Afganistan,rape women and burn them ..you can not make a judgement about all American people that they are sick!! cause I know that there are lots of civilized and decent American people.
or you can not say they are the followers of jesus and this what christianty call for.
No..thats very wrong approach..every one of us is responsible for himself and his acts..and none of us is representive of God or religion on earth...remember that man who killed 68 young people in Sweden...you remind me with him..he was full of hate to islam but he killed his own people..do not let anger eat you up.
instead read from certified sources about islam( your enemy) at least to know your enemy...may one in a thousand you are wrong and your imput were false.
I disagree with any form of discrimination or violance..and remember life is a circle what you give is what you get at the end..free yourself from hate,let it go Andree ,make a new start..and please read more.knowledge is a power that can give us peace and strenght.

at the end we all are humans my friend.

“O'er the land of the free ? ”

Since: Jan 09

Don't Tread On Me

#88 Sep 13, 2012
Spathis wrote:
<quoted text>And truth is stranger than fiction?!
Your stranger then fiction,
alex

Misr, Egypt

#90 Sep 13, 2012
Andre3000 wrote:
<quoted text>
Seems to me you are a little dhimmi who is bend over - ready for islamic teaching. Not one drop of greek or english in you.....
Andree..this is not taking you anywhere...please change your language..lets have more productive civilized talk in here!!

“O'er the land of the free ? ”

Since: Jan 09

Don't Tread On Me

#91 Sep 13, 2012
alex wrote:
<quoted text>
Andree..this is not taking you anywhere...please change your language..lets have more productive civilized talk in here!!
A fair and mature statement.
Spathis

Vernon, Canada

#92 Sep 13, 2012
Where Is My America wrote:
<quoted text>Your stranger then fiction,
Guffaw guffaw-you seem to have 'all day'!
Well where are your 'stories' and pearls of wisdom on the middle east story!!?
Smart arse remarks do not qualify-got anything useful to contribute apart from having'allday'??
Two Cents

Byrdstown, TN

#93 Sep 13, 2012
Saudi Arabia warned obama not to aid in Libya and Egypt. Israel warned obama! Russia warned obama not to cause changes in Libya and Egypt, but no obama wanted his stupid liberal ideals mandated across the world. Russian news are reporting that obama's lack of understanding has set the Middle East back to the 1970's. They even wrote that if he would have left the controlling parties intact today then we would not be facing this today! Even possible facing two new enemies of the USA. Thanks obama for your change!
Faith

New Baltimore, MI

#94 Sep 13, 2012
Spathis wrote:
<quoted text>
Smart arse remarks do not qualify-got anything useful to contribute apart from having'allday'??
Coming from you? Is this a joke? You make far and away the stupidest, most pointless and childish comments of anyone on topix.
Spathis

Vernon, Canada

#95 Sep 13, 2012
Andre3000 wrote:
<quoted text>
Seems to me you are a little dhimmi who is bend over - ready for islamic teaching. Not one drop of greek or english in you.....
Arsemeuck voids

Since: Jul 12

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#96 Sep 13, 2012
alex wrote:
<quoted text>
OK..will take it from here..lets agree upon some rules to lead this discusion so we do not get lost between sentences.
first we have to differenciate between our own experiences and general facts.
second, lets not make judgements unless we put facts on table
third,we have to separate between cultures and religions
fourth.lets agree upon a fact that in each society there is good and bad.
so..even I am not so convinced with your story but I will make an assumption that it was true...
the killing act of this man is not justified or allowed in islam..
so this man just expressed himself not his religion..the mother's act is also not relevant to islam
in Quoran..if you kill a human being, it is like you killed all human race..its one of the big sins..
so here we are talking about a man and his mother that were insane and no one to blame but them even though they used the words (God) and islam. remmber we agreed to separate between the religion and culture..here this is a culture or way of thinking ..nothing from religion.
there are many christians use the religon as well but you can not blame the bible or jesus...lets put our negative behaviours away from our religion cause its our fault and poor understanding to the real spirit of religion..not all moslems think or behave like that man and his mother my friend.
when the American soldiers pee on dead bodies in Afganistan,rape women and burn them ..you can not make a judgement about all American people that they are sick!! cause I know that there are lots of civilized and decent American people.
or you can not say they are the followers of jesus and this what christianty call for.
No..thats very wrong approach..every one of us is responsible for himself and his acts..and none of us is representive of God or religion on earth...remember that man who killed 68 young people in Sweden...you remind me with him..he was full of hate to islam but he killed his own people..do not let anger eat you up.
instead read from certified sources about islam( your enemy) at least to know your enemy...may one in a thousand you are wrong and your imput were false.
I disagree with any form of discrimination or violance..and remember life is a circle what you give is what you get at the end..free yourself from hate,let it go Andree ,make a new start..and please read more.knowledge is a power that can give us peace and strenght.
at the end we all are humans my friend.
1. I have to go to work and will reply later. Just a little fact. I'm no near the hate followers of muhammed have for nonmuslims - hindues, christians, jews, bahais, ahmadis, druze, atheists etc.

I don't hate muslims. I despise their religion.

2. I started with my personal experience. I haven't even gotten to the general facts yet.

3. The man who killed 68 people was from Norway.
Spathis

Vernon, Canada

#97 Sep 13, 2012
Faith wrote:
<quoted text>Coming from you? Is this a joke? You make far and away the stupidest, most pointless and childish comments of anyone on topix.
take a good look in the mirror old astroglide hag-great self description
alex

Cairo, Egypt

#99 Sep 14, 2012
Spathis wrote:
<quoted text>take a good look in the mirror old astroglide hag-great self description
ok..will look for your answer.and yes he was from Norway,sorry about that.
alex

Cairo, Egypt

#100 Sep 14, 2012
Two Cents wrote:
Saudi Arabia warned obama not to aid in Libya and Egypt. Israel warned obama! Russia warned obama not to cause changes in Libya and Egypt, but no obama wanted his stupid liberal ideals mandated across the world. Russian news are reporting that obama's lack of understanding has set the Middle East back to the 1970's. They even wrote that if he would have left the controlling parties intact today then we would not be facing this today! Even possible facing two new enemies of the USA. Thanks obama for your change!
I can say that I agree with you ,revelutions should not be the objective but change for better should be the one,through revolutions or self correcting..but do not blame Obama for that because the republicans had played a stronger role in this change more than Obama,using human rights and democratic agencies that are finaced by American Government..since J W BUSH and Condalisa Rice,there were active movements and tons of money thrown for pushing people to up rise..and again evrything was misscalculated by the CIA and now the magic turned against the magition once more...so Obama and his libral party were dealing with the results Republicans were digging for since 2004,so if someone to blame it will be this ediot from Texas,who drag America in 2 wars,and cost the American treasury over 200 billion dollars could create millions of jobs in America if you know what I mean..the war in Iraq was not against terror,it was favering his friends the oil bilionares who got richer and for personal reasons to revench for his father Bush seniorwhen Sadam tried to kill him...so He destroyed his country economy and killed million civillion in iraq for personal reasons...think about that and take the final results.
alex

Cairo, Egypt

#101 Sep 14, 2012
Two Cents wrote:
Saudi Arabia warned obama not to aid in Libya and Egypt. Israel warned obama! Russia warned obama not to cause changes in Libya and Egypt, but no obama wanted his stupid liberal ideals mandated across the world. Russian news are reporting that obama's lack of understanding has set the Middle East back to the 1970's. They even wrote that if he would have left the controlling parties intact today then we would not be facing this today! Even possible facing two new enemies of the USA. Thanks obama for your change!
one more thing,if Romny wins the elections you will see more wars and blood over the world and more destruction to the american economy ,at least Obama did not create more wars he was trying to collect the peices after Bush done playing with his toys,that drunk mother fucker.which we all know that he knew about sept 11 and he lat it happen...just like pearl harbr..
do you remmber the signs of HELP WANTED all over the country during and after presedent Clinton...you can look now at the unempolyment rate in Americ!!
Teddy R

Mclean, VA

#104 Sep 16, 2012
shameless-li wrote:
<quoted text>
our government should do something against the libyan government immediately.....
There isn't any "Libyan government" in reality, as events have shown.

Just a bunch of tribal gangs pretending to be a country - just the kind of petrie dish al Qaeda and fellow terrorist organizations thrive in.

Well done, Obama/Clinton/Rice - your naive handling of the 'Arab Spring' has metasticized al Qaeda and given them 3 new Afghanistans to base in.

History will record Obama as the POTUS who lost the Middle East.

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