Queen Nefertiti Boils Cairo Blood as Germans Reject Loan of Ancient Statue

what a joke.Both countries are fighting over a statue that does not belong to neither the arabs nor the Germans. The statue belongs to the africans.

Egypt is in Africa!!! And for what it is worth, that makes Egyptians "Africans", although they might not like to be lumped into the group ... besides, "arabs" covers a lot of ground. They migrated all over the place just like other ethnic groups have done.

Catherine wrote:

Egypt is in Africa!!! And for what it is worth, that makes Egyptians "Africans", although they might not like to be lumped into the group ... besides, "arabs" covers a lot of ground. They migrated all over the place just like other ethnic groups have done.

Arabs and islam are murderers liars and thieves and it can be documented. They too came to africa to colonialize and steal land, and artifacts. arabia is their homeland not Egypt. Just like America has a majority spanish speaking people here but this is not their homeland. By the way African people speak arabic and other languages. but like the lady said the ancient egyptian statues does not belong to either people.

Catherine wrote:

Egypt is in Africa!!! And for what it is worth, that makes Egyptians "Africans", although they might not like to be lumped into the group ... besides, "arabs" covers a lot of ground. They migrated all over the place just like other ethnic groups have done.

your comment sounds a little racist. I dont think Egyptians wanna be lumped with germans either. after all the statues does not look like germans or arabs. In other countries, skin colour is not that important. its america and europe who has a problem with it. FYI, they're still black skin people still living in Egypt who are considered black.

The ancient Egyptians did not think in these terms.
The whole matter of black or white Egyptians is a chimera, cultural baggage from our own society that can only be imposed artificially on ancient Egyptian society. The ancient Egyptians, like their modem descendants, were of varying complexions of color, from the light Mediterranean type (like Nefertiti), to the light brown of Middle Egypt, to the darker brown of Upper Egypt, to the darkest shade around Aswan and the First Cataract region, where even today, the population shifts to Nubian.
Ancient and modern Egyptian hair ranges from straight to wavy to woolly; in color, it varies from reddish brown to dark brown to black. Lips range thin to full. Many Egyptians possess a protrusive jaw. Noses vary from high-bridged—straight to arched or even hooked—to flat-bridged, with bulbous to broad nostrils. In short, ancient Egypt, like modern Egypt, consisted of a very heterogeneous population.
The evidence regarding these features of ancient Egyptians comes from literature, anthropology, mummies, sculptures, paintings and inscriptions—all left by the ancient Egyptians themselves.
For example, the mummies and skeletons of ancient Egyptians indicate they were Africans of the Afro-Asiatic ethnic grouping (the term “Afro-Asiatic” has displaced the less accurate designation “Hamitic”). This is the population of northern Africa, the Shara and sub-Sahara regions. Their physical features vary as described above. No doubt, many darker-colored Egyptians would be called black in our modern race conscious terminology.
Unfortunately, we don’t have Nefertiti’s mummy. But we do have the mummy of Pharaoh Ramess II who reigned from 1279 to 1212 B.C.E. He is a typical northern Egyptian; he came from the northeasternmost nome (governate) of Egypt. He had fine, wavy hair, a prominent hooked nose and moderately thin lips.
This mummy may be contrasted with the mummy of Sequen-Re Tao, who died on the battlefield about 1580 B.C.E. He was from Thebes, much farther south. He had tightly curled, woolly hair, a slight build and strongly Nubian features. Incidentally, he was an ancestor of Nefertiti, although quite distantly related.
Closer to Nefertiti is the mummy of Thutmose IV, who reigned from 1419 to 1386 B.C.E. He had wavy hair and Egypto-Nubian facial features.
The mummy of Yuya, probably Nefertiti’s grandfather, is dramatically well preserved; we can see his high-bridged nose, thin lips and straight hair (now turned reddish blond, perhaps from the patron used in mummification). Thuya, probably Nefertiti's grandmother, had more regular Egyptian features, wavy reddish blond hair, an aquiline nose and fuller lips. Yuya and Thuya were Queen Tiy's parents and Queen Tiy was probably Nefertiti's aunt. Queen Tiy's mummy, recently so identified, has long, wavy brown hair, a high. bridged, arched nose and moderately thin lips, much like her father Yuya. In short, Nefertiti's ancestors seem to be a disparate group.

It is true that the Egyptians regularly distinguished themselves from foreigners living around them. But they did so in political terms, not in racial terms. Foreigners were labeled by their regional or political names, and were depicted with distinctive features and dress.
Nubians, Kushites and, during the New Kingdom (c. 1570-1085 B.C.E.), Central Africans are all shown with realistic negroid features and distinctive dress. Asiatics were also depicted realistically in the New Kingdom Mitanni with blond hair, blue eyes and Caucasoid features; Syro-Palestinians with dark hair, brown complexions and Semitic features. Even Minoans appear in New Kingdom tomb
paintings with olive complexions, dark hair carefully styled and narrow waists-very similar to the way they are depicted in Minoan paintings in Crete itself. All these details show that the Egyptian painters and sculptors were careful observers, and all
these foreigners are quite distinct from the Egyptians.
Among the foreigners, the Nubians were closest ethnically to the Egyptians. In the late predynastic period (c. 3700-3150 B.C.E.), the Nubians shared the same culture as the Egyptians and even evolved the same pharaonic political structure. The Libyans were also closely related to the Egyptians, living in the oases west of Egypt; ethnically the Libyans were Berbers. In the historic periods, both Nubians arid Libyans readily moved into Egypt and were integrated into the Egyptian populace.

Neferiti belongs to Eypt...

I have a eyptian friend and she is brown skinned, she doesn't look like a arab.. and certainly not like a german

Queen Nefertiti was the principal wife of Pharaoh Akhenaten (1350-1334 B.C.E.) the famous heretic pharaoh who some claim held monotheistic beliefs. The doll advertised in BAR was, at least in part, based on the well-known head of Nefertiti in the Egyptian
Museum in Berlin. There she is depicted with a blue, caplike crown and with light-colored skin. The color on the statue head is ancient, as originally applied by the sculptor in whose studio the head was excavated. So this is how Nefertiti was actually represented in ancient times.
Was Nefertiti "black" or "white"?
The ancient Egyptians did not think in these terms.
The whole matter of black or white Egyptians is a chimera, cultural baggage from our own society that can only be imposed artificially on ancient Egyptian society. The ancient Egyptians, like their modem descendants, were of varying complexions of color, from the light Mediterranean type (like Nefertiti), to the light brown of Middle Egypt, to the darker brown of Upper Egypt, to the darkest shade around Aswan and the First Cataract region, where even today, the population shifts to Nubian.
Ancient and modern Egyptian hair ranges from straight to wavy to woolly; in color, it varies from reddish brown to dark brown to black. Lips range thin to full. Many Egyptians possess a protrusive jaw. Noses vary from high-bridged—straight to arched or even hooked—to flat-bridged, with bulbous to broad nostrils. In short, ancient Egypt, like modern Egypt, consisted of a very heterogeneous population.
The evidence regarding these features of ancient Egyptians comes from literature, anthropology, mummies, sculptures, paintings and inscriptions—all left by the ancient Egyptians themselves.
For example, the mummies and skeletons of ancient Egyptians indicate they were Africans of the Afro-Asiatic ethnic grouping (the term “Afro-Asiatic” has displaced the less accurate designation “Hamitic”). This is the population of northern Africa, the Shara and sub-Sahara regions. Their physical features vary as described above. No doubt, many darker-colored Egyptians would be called black in our modern race conscious terminology.
Unfortunately, we don’t have Nefertiti’s mummy. But we do have the mummy of Pharaoh Ramess II who reigned from 1279 to 1212 B.C.E. He is a typical northern Egyptian; he came from the northeasternmost nome (governate) of Egypt. He had fine, wavy hair, a prominent hooked nose and moderately thin lips.
This mummy may be contrasted with the mummy of Sequen-Re Tao, who died on the battlefield about 1580 B.C.E. He was from Thebes, much farther south. He had tightly curled, woolly hair, a slight build and strongly Nubian features. Incidentally, he was an ancestor of Nefertiti, although quite distantly related.
Closer to Nefertiti is the mummy of Thutmose IV, who reigned from 1419 to 1386 B.C.E. He had wavy hair and Egypto-Nubian facial features.
The mummy of Yuya, probably Nefertiti’s grandfather, is dramatically well preserved; we can see his high-bridged nose, thin lips and straight hair (now turned reddish blond, perhaps from the patron used in mummification). Thuya, probably Nefertiti's grandmother, had more regular Egyptian features, wavy reddish blond hair, an aquiline nose and fuller lips. Yuya and Thuya were Queen Tiy's parents and Queen Tiy was probably Nefertiti's aunt. Queen Tiy's mummy, recently so identified, has long, wavy brown hair, a high. bridged, arched nose and moderately thin lips, much like her father Yuya. In short, Nefertiti's ancestors seem to be a disparate group

Some modem Afro-Americans, particularly those with mixed racial ancestry, will find that they look like some ancient (and modern) Egyptians. Should they travel to Egypt, they may find that in terms of their complexion they resemble people of a particular region of Egypt. This is no accident; there has been racial or ethnic intermingling in both instances. For the Afro-American,-.it has been relatively recent in Egypt it has been a slow process lasting thousands of years, as far back into prehistory as can be gauged.
In their ability to ignore race and absorb foreigners, ancient Egyptians outshine our own achievements and should serve as our model They also surpassed us in providing legal and social equality for women, guaranteed by "the Law of Pharaoh." How then can we be so presumptuous as to assign our primitive racial labels onto so wonderful a culture.

I would like to go to eypt one day... My eyptian friend thought I would have a great time there...

It is sad that eypt fell into the hand of the arab people... but the history of eypt is something noone can take away

this is bull. that statue doesnt belong in germany. i dont play that finders keepers bulls**t when it comes to important things like that. next thing you know germany will be claiming that she looked like them!
Africa is the richest county in the world and its dumb invading countries like germany and especially england who come and steal other peoples riches like diamonds, gold and historical artifacts and claim it as theirs. there are no gold mines in england (or europe) and certaintly no freakin diamonds yet if u see the crown jewels you see all the things that they have stolen over centuries from other countries like rubys and blue diamonds from India!! biggest diamond ever?? AFRICA!

spoils of war they call it?? THEY HAVE THE NERVES to call themselves CIVILIZED?? i SH** ON ALL OF YOU! i dont even know how the english (and other euro countries)live with themselves knowing that people died cuz there ancestors were greeddy little f**ked up bastards!!

you must be a feminist. Why should the people be upset for what their ancestors did. Its all over. You feminist b****, trying to bring irrational thoughts even here.

Why Categorize--you have stated eloquently my sentiments on the matter of the "race" of Ancient Egyptians. It is a modern CULTURAL construct projected back in time to a culture when racial distinctions did not have the same significance they do today. You have also provided excellent examples of the heterogeneous appearance of modern/ancient Egyptians, which further defies our categorization into a specific modern "race"--as much as many people would like to do so!
HAKAPTAH-the eternal gift of the Nile.

oneone wrote:

you must be a feminist. Why should the people be upset for what their ancestors did. Its all over. You feminist b****, trying to bring irrational thoughts even here.

shut the f*** up. come at me with facts please not ur stupid pathetic rants!

RamesesII wrote:

Why Categorize--you have stated eloquently my sentiments on the matter of the "race" of Ancient Egyptians. It is a modern CULTURAL construct projected back in time to a culture when racial distinctions did not have the same significance they do today. You have also provided excellent examples of the heterogeneous appearance of modern/ancient Egyptians, which further defies our categorization into a specific modern "race"--as much as many people would like to do so!
HAKAPTAH-the eternal gift of the Nile.

ur right, race didnt matter to those BLACK ANCIENT EGYPTIANS. thats why the BLACK pharaoh didnt mind founding greece!

melanie wrote:

what a joke.Both countries are fighting over a statue that does not belong to neither the arabs nor the Germans. The statue belongs to the africans.

I think that it more specifically belongs to the egyptians.

nikki wrote:

<quoted text> Arabs and islam are murderers liars and thieves and it can be documented. They too came to africa to colonialize and steal land, and artifacts. arabia is their homeland not Egypt. Just like America has a majority spanish speaking people here but this is not their homeland. By the way African people speak arabic and other languages. but like the lady said the ancient egyptian statues does not belong to either people.

you are obviously against islam but you can keep that to your self

Black Haitian Beauty wrote:

<quoted text>
ur right, race didnt matter to those BLACK ANCIENT EGYPTIANS. thats why the BLACK pharaoh didnt mind founding greece!

I see...a black pharaoh founded Greece. And I suppose a Chinese emperor founded Rome, and a Norwegian built Tenochtatlan. Haitian you may want to consider thinking critically for yourself rather than regurgitating the false, revisionist BS you were taught by someone as deluded as you are. I am Egyptian, and know that greek/European civilization borrowed significantly from Ancient Egypt, but I sure as hell know that a black pharaoh didn't found Greece!

RamesesII wrote:

<quoted text>
I see...a black pharaoh founded Greece. And I suppose a Chinese emperor founded Rome, and a Norwegian built Tenochtatlan. Haitian you may want to consider thinking critically for yourself rather than regurgitating the false, revisionist BS you were taught by someone as deluded as you are. I am Egyptian, and know that greek/European civilization borrowed significantly from Ancient Egypt, but I sure as hell know that a black pharaoh didn't found Greece!

lol ur white a$$ cant relate to any of ancient egypt's great history! u need to learn to let it go! the Greeks made it clear that the founders of Athens were Pelasgians AKA BLACK PEOPLE. you need to do your research and read a freakin book before u try me. dont worry i know it a hard thing to grasp! it hurts to know that u have absolutely nothing to do with the monuments that withstood the test of time.

Black Haitian Beauty wrote:

<quoted text>
lol ur white a$$ cant relate to any of ancient egypt's great history! u need to learn to let it go! the Greeks made it clear that the founders of Athens were Pelasgians AKA BLACK PEOPLE. you need to do your research and read a freakin book before u try me. dont worry i know it a hard thing to grasp! it hurts to know that u have absolutely nothing to do with the monuments that withstood the test of time.

You are mentally retarded.

RamesesII wrote:

<quoted text>
You are mentally retarded.

yea great comeback lol