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santa wrote:

sesal kemudian tidak berguna :(

tdk ada yg disesalkan...,
malah bangga krn TL bisa jadi a nation.

maaf yeah ban... kami tidak sesali kemerdekaan... kmi sudah bebas. sudah tidak ada monyet2 yg minta KTP.... hahahhahaaaa.. enak ban... urusi negaramu itu ban....

Muito triste..

Kosama wrote:

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secara pribadi saya tdk membenci Indonesia, tp sayang Org2x Indo Terutama org Java) yg selalu mengangu kemerdekaan kami, karena mereka iri atau.... dg Indepedensia yg kami dapatkan dan selalu menyebar isu / propaganda palsu di berbagai media. Saya juga menyesal dg kehadiran Indo di TL pada tahun 1975 sebab telah menunda kemerdekaan yg sejatinya ditahun itu ditunda sampai 2002. Andai Timor Leste tidak dijajah oleh Indonesia disaat itu, mungkin TL sudah seperti Angola atau Mozambique, karena saudara2x TL di Africa bisa Merdekan dan hidup makmur (lihat angola dan Mozambique di wikipedia Indonesia).
Salam'

Are you blind? East Timor since secede from Indonesia like pariah country now no one care.

The poorest country on planet earth poorer than African, thanks to our former President Habibie to let them go, because these people just sucking Indonesian money to subsidea them, but eventhough already subsidezed they are still can not help themselves.

Now look at now after now after independent as they wish, poor..

Poor native East Timorese, only minority Portuguese living happiliy in East Timor right now who control the goverment.

over here I find east timorese, who wannabe indoes, eventhough they are independent. lol

Kosama wrote:

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tdk ada yg disesalkan...,
malah bangga krn TL bisa jadi a nation.

yea.. We are from indonesia actually very happy that East timor is not part of Indonesia anymore.They just become a burden for Indonesia, billion of dollar is pumping to this area each year just to make them catch up with other province in Indonesia.
And from where they money come from? the new order regime took it from province outside java.
New order regime at that time built hundreds of school from elementary to University and Politechnic the literacy rate jump from only 2% when East Timore let alone by portugese to become more than 60% only in 20 years rule of Indonesia. From where the money again from province outside Java.
Very glad they are not part of Indonesia, no contribution only gift taker.
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aNak A Be Ge wrote:

<quoted text>Are you blind? East Timor since secede from Indonesia like pariah country now no one care.
The poorest country on planet earth poorer than African, thanks to our former President Habibie to let them go, because these people just sucking Indonesian money to subsidea them, but eventhough already subsidezed they are still can not help themselves.
Now look at now after now after independent as they wish, poor..
Poor native East Timorese, only minority Portuguese living happiliy in East Timor right now who control the goverment.
over here I find east timorese, who wannabe indoes, eventhough they are independent. lol

That's life,
we get to the principles of independence can not be replaced by money. The price of freedom is that we get the blood and tears is not money from Java or other provinces in Indonesia.

aNak A Be Ge wrote:

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yea.. We are from indonesia actually very happy that East timor is not part of Indonesia anymore.They just become a burden for Indonesia, billion of dollar is pumping to this area each year just to make them catch up with other province in Indonesia.
And from where they money come from? the new order regime took it from province outside java.
New order regime at that time built hundreds of school from elementary to University and Politechnic the literacy rate jump from only 2% when East Timore let alone by portugese to become more than 60% only in 20 years rule of Indonesia. From where the money again from province outside Java.
Very glad they are not part of Indonesia, no contribution only gift taker.
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your country are stupid, you want to colonize our country, but can not control the population of Timor-Leste.

You were free to kill GPK (Falentil-Fretilin),but you didn’t know the actions you had been doghouse by the people of East Timor.

Thank You for the development that has been given to us.

Kosama wrote:

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That's life,
we get to the principles of independence can not be replaced by money. The price of freedom is that we get the blood and tears is not money from Java or other provinces in Indonesia.

Yeah now you east timorese do anything...! I dont really care..!!

I believe many Indonesian happy and realize now decision taking by our former president to let East Timor go is very brilliant.

Because now indos can save million of dollar subsidised which formerly given to East Timor to make them catch up and in par with other provinces. Now you are on their own.

Its different with Madurese from Madura island, eventhough Madura island offer nothing just rock but Madurese are hard working people and a lot of them becoming self employee and succes in their life do not need subsiding from other provinces.

If you becoming failed country, and majority there want to join Indonesia again, I do not agree and strongly oppose the idea...

Kosama wrote:

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your country are stupid, you want to colonize our country, but can not control the population of Timor-Leste.
You were free to kill GPK (Falentil-Fretilin),but you didn’t know the actions you had been doghouse by the people of East Timor.
Thank You for the development that has been given to us.

Be smart!
You should ask urself! Firstly I ask u why now East Timor being a failed state after we give independence to that country??? With the whole governmental apparatus has collapsed, ethnic-conflict, high levels of corruption, and low human development index, east timor is really being failed country..after we give independence to that country... what say you about tht?

Poor East Timor..... But...., I'm glad now Indonesia is not accused to be responsible, and relatively free from this 'troubled land' that has damaged Indonesian esteem in international community for years.....

aNak A Be Ge wrote:

<quoted text>Be smart!
You should ask urself! Firstly I ask u why now East Timor being a failed state after we give independence to that country??? With the whole governmental apparatus has collapsed, ethnic-conflict, high levels of corruption, and low human development index, east timor is really being failed country..after we give independence to that country... what say you about tht?
Poor East Timor..... But...., I'm glad now Indonesia is not accused to be responsible, and relatively free from this 'troubled land' that has damaged Indonesian esteem in international community for years.....

Indonesia never gave independence to East Timor, that u mast remember ok.

As I remember, "lebih baik makan batu dan mereka".

Okay, I think it's enough rock to eat on there :D

who is gonna regret to seperate wth indo goverment never ever coz we knew that at moment people in indonesia they are life even more worst then in east Tiomr coz I seen some of people still live under the bridge(home less) is good for us to be independent coz other ways population indonesia is goint to occupaid in dili to get better life special sulawesi and from naw on even we are independent but i never see any one live under the bridge but we all have the house to live thats why u got think about it we only have bit conflik sooner gonna be okey we always proud as east timorees and we love our cuntry never gonna be the same like before when indonesia was there like Kate said people who was choose otonomi defenetly they gonna regret coz they now thousend people timorees all over the wold special in Uk so they gonna suport they'r family in there so dont you worry about it just keep shout you mouth thanks

hey buddy dont be silly we never ever think to reintegret wth indonesia there is a lot of poorest people in java special in jakarta and you now have lot of teaf and un employ coz I was in there last year seen wth my naked eyes thats mean in indonesia is 1 moust coruption cuntry in the world the leader can,t do any fuck all(banyak sarjana supermi) can't find the job even the study highers but doesnt hv quality at all thats why they been shit at moment

Timor wrote:

Sebaliknya..........Timor Leste akan maju and makmur. Are you jealous???<quoted text>

Jealous????? Wakakaaa... Apa yang harus kami cemburi dari Timtim? ;p

Yup, for TL people who lived in outside of TL they will say "I'm proud with TL". But if you ever ever lived in TL and feel how hard it is lived as TL people in TL land now, maybe you will say something else. Starving, lack of job, and a lot of gang member disturb business activity still nightmare for TL. Even business activity get harder day by day. Security problem isn't solved until today.

Yes, some of Indonesian still in poor condition. With 220 million people lived in Indonesia, it's hard to manage them. But, at least they are not in starving condition.

Papa Bear wrote:

Yup, for TL people who lived in outside of TL they will say "I'm proud with TL". But if you ever ever lived in TL and feel how hard it is lived as TL people in TL land now, maybe you will say something else. Starving, lack of job, and a lot of gang member disturb business activity still nightmare for TL. Even business activity get harder day by day. Security problem isn't solved until today.
Yes, some of Indonesian still in poor condition. With 220 million people lived in Indonesia, it's hard to manage them. But, at least they are not in starving condition.

well said

Kosama wrote:

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Indonesia never gave independence to East Timor, that u mast remember ok.

LOL, are you licking your own spit? Just where were you in 1998? What a witless, clueless person you are.

The only reason East Timor became "independent" is thanks to the gift of Indonesian president Habibie, not to any particular East Timorese effort. And the subsequent devastation and impoverishment of East Timor shows that East Timor does not "win" anything. They only became the poorest people in the world forsaken in a never-ending conflict thanks to the incompetent buffoons they called "leaders". In short, it is East Timor that is the loser.

The only slightly positive outcome from East Timorese "independence" is that Indonesia is no longer burdened with need to subsidise the development of backward East Timor.

BTW, East Timor today is a failed state. Oh yeah, your weakling home country Netherlands has been easily pwned by Indonesia twice, and you are not an Indonesian. Deal with it.

Homicida você, você também subestimar-nos, um instante mais tarde você vai saber o resultado de tudo o que você falar pelos cotovelos.

lembre-se disso!

Precisamos de prova, não só boca grande.

Kosama wrote:

Homicida você, você também subestimar-nos, um instante mais tarde você vai saber o resultado de tudo o que você falar pelos cotovelos.
lembre-se disso!