Haiti-Dominican Republic: One Market, Two Separate Worlds

Here you have two poor countries. Dominican Republic is only SLIGHTLY less poor than Haiti. Notice how the Haitians NEED to trade with Dominican Republic anyways. The Dominican Supreme Court also ruled out birthright citizenship. However, it is a common law country. It's Civil Code. If the law doesn't say you can be a citizen, you can't. Over here we sometimes wonder what in the heck the law really means; hence lawyers.

That may not be good for Haitiat all. It will allow Dominicans to dump all their products in our country which will improve their economy greatly and destroy ours; they will be the producer while we are the consumer. Haiti should focus on its own interest before engaging in this endeavor.

Well as the almighty emperor Dessaline II ruler over the all island I am back after 200 years of retirement.

I will pass into law ok for Haitian to get pregnant Dominican women, for every successful pregnancy the Haitian father will be re-warded with a black pig.

Hey Tousaint I do not know what the fu..ck I am talking about, how do I change the equilibrium of DR population to be like ours.

I kept killing their white, they kept multiplying mullato, I know their voodo must be is stronger than ours.

Do you think I am dumb? but they not pratice vodoo

Toussaint, Toutou ho ho shit he fall assleep again I must boring.

While he's asleep let me invade again..

Again making up number and statistic, there always been Haitian sin DR fool. We dominate you for over 40 years, this dumb B?goot does not realize Haitians have been crossing, living and be part of DR for over 200 years.

Does this goo brain can think at all without, his down entrenched bias torward my Haitian people and his anti black sentiment.

You have such a twisted logic, however it does not impress me for that matter no one in this blog either, even any retard can see thru the smoke that you are creating to hide the truth "TurkeY and twist the facts as you see fit your agenda.

Seriously you are not funny anymore, and should consider retirement. Frankly I will shed no tears, a bunch of us would just be happy to see you go, do it if you are a real man, exit gracefully at least your children will live better with the !nsurance money.

Amen

Down with GW
Remind you this forum is for real DR and H that want to share concern, not vent racist ideololgy or foolishness. Please feel to create your own blog

AMen

Greenwave wrote:

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OUR BIGGEST COMMERCIAL PARTNERS ARE THE U.S., SOUTH KOREA, TAIWAN, BELGIUM, HAITI, AND SO ON. THIS IS WHY WE SHOULD NOT ENCOURAGE COMMERCE WITH HAITI. IT WILL CREATE A PARASITIC RELATION BETWEEN A PEOPLE PRODUCING TRIBE LIKE HAITI (8.4 MILLIONS IN HAITI AND 3.8 MILLION HAITIANS IN THEIR DIASPORA)AND ANOTHER POOR COUNTRY LIKE THE DR. COMMERCE WILL ENCOURAGE ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION OF HAITIANS TOWARDS DR CREATING DISPLACEMENT (EMPLOYMENT AND HABITATION), PUBLIC WELFARE (HOSPITAL, HEALTH CARE, HOUSING, AND CAFETERIA PROGRAMS), ENVIRONMENTAL DESTRUCTION (TREE FELLING, GARBAGE GENERATION BY THE HAITIANS, ETC.).
COMMERCE BETWEEN HAITI AND DR WILL MEAN THE DESTRUCTION OF DR! WE WERE DOING FINE WITHOUT HAITI BEFORE 1980! AFTER 1980 THE HAITIAN POPULATION IN DR GREW FROM 200,000 TO 2 MILLIONS (TODAY'S ESTIMATE 1.1 MILLION ILLEGALS + 0.9 MILLION WITH FALSE CEDULA AND/OR BIRTH CERTIFICATES).

Greenkaka said:
OUR BIGGEST COMMERCIAL PARTNERS ARE THE U.S., SOUTH KOREA, TAIWAN, BELGIUM, HAITI,

The truth below:

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In such a case, according to Homero Figueroa of Diario Libre, then Haiti would be the nation's second largest trading partner. The latest report issued by the Center for Exports and Investment (CEI-DR) shows that Dominican exports have passed the US$1.5 billion mark for the first time, a significant improvement over 2006.”

From a DR site
http://www.dr1.com/trade/articles/262/1/Haiti...

GreenKaKa said:
IT WILL CREATE A PARASITIC RELATION BETWEEN A PEOPLE PRODUCING TRIBE LIKE HAITI (8.4 MILLIONS IN HAITI AND 3.8 MILLION HAITIANS IN THEIR DIASPORA)AND ANOTHER POOR COUNTRY LIKE THE DR. COMMERCE WILL ENCOURAGE ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION OF HAITIANS TOWARDS DR CREATING DISPLACEMENT (EMPLOYMENT AND HABITATION), PUBLIC WELFARE (HOSPITAL, HEALTH CARE, HOUSING, AND CAFETERIA PROGRAMS), ENVIRONMENTAL DESTRUCTION (TREE FELLING, GARBAGE GENERATION BY THE HAITIANS, ETC.).

The truth below:

This is GreenKaKa personal racist, ignorant view and commentary and does not reflect any economic reality Trade is good for the all island it create wealth and good relation.
I must point out that Mister GreenKaKa is in no way qualify or an expert in economical matter and from my humble opinion did not pass even high school economic
Excerpt by Steven M.Suranovic
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The higher price received for each country's comparative advantage good would lead each country to specialize in that good. To accomplish this, labor would have to move from the comparative disadvantaged industry into the comparative advantage industry. This means that one industry goes out of business in each country. However, because the model assumes full employment and costless mobility of labor, all of these workers are immediately gainfully employed in the other industry.(
“
From the site of international trade theory and policy
http://internationalecon.com/Trade/Tch40/T40-...

GreenKaka said:
COMMERCE BETWEEN HAITI AND DR WILL MEAN THE DESTRUCTION OF DR! WE WERE DOING FINE WITHOUT HAITI BEFORE 1980! AFTER 1980 THE HAITIAN POPULATION IN DR GREW FROM 200,000 TO 2 MILLIONS (TODAY'S ESTIMATE 1.1 MILLION ILLEGALS + 0.9 MILLION WITH FALSE CEDULA AND/OR BIRTH CERTIFICATES).
The truth below:

The truth is, Haitians have been coming and living in DR way before DR was known as DR the figure 200,000 in 1980 that the author GreenKaka is quoting is fictive as himself.
Excerpt by Michael Deibert
This release came after September 2005, when a legal team that included Sonia Pierre, successfully argued before the Inter-American Commission on Human Rights that the Dominican Republic was in violation of Articles 3, 5, 19, 20 and 24 of the American Convention on Human Right Pact of San Jose, Costa Rica in denying citizenship to two young girls, Dilcia Yean and Violeta Bosico, born in the Dominican Republic. That decision also reinforced the fact that, in its denial of citizenship to persons born within its borders, the Dominican Republic was in violation of Article 11 of its own constitution,, which guarantees Dominican citizenship to the all those born within its territory save for those “in transit” and the children of foreign diplomats. The Fernández government has said that, though it has begun paying damages to the two girls, it intends to disregard the commission’s expansive ruling.
What has been the broader response of the Fernández government to these incidents ? A call to the rule of law ? An appeal to Dominicans to make their vibrant, culturally rich, economically viable nation a place where those of whatever descent and whatever skin color can live together ? Unfortunately, no.
Link
The Struggle for Haiti (Seven Stories Press). His blog can be read at www.michaeldeibert.blogspot.com .

Greenkaka said:
OUR BIGGEST COMMERCIAL PARTNERS ARE THE U.S., SOUTH KOREA, TAIWAN, BELGIUM, HAITI,

The truth below:

“
In such a case, according to Homero Figueroa of Diario Libre, then Haiti would be the nation's second largest trading partner. The latest report issued by the Center for Exports and Investment (CEI-DR) shows that Dominican exports have passed the US$1.5 billion mark for the first time, a significant improvement over 2006.”

From a DR site
http://www.dr1.com/trade/articles/262/1/Haiti...

GreenKaKa said:
IT WILL CREATE A PARASITIC RELATION BETWEEN A PEOPLE PRODUCING TRIBE LIKE HAITI (8.4 MILLIONS IN HAITI AND 3.8 MILLION HAITIANS IN THEIR DIASPORA)AND ANOTHER POOR COUNTRY LIKE THE DR. COMMERCE WILL ENCOURAGE ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION OF HAITIANS TOWARDS DR CREATING DISPLACEMENT (EMPLOYMENT AND HABITATION), PUBLIC WELFARE (HOSPITAL, HEALTH CARE, HOUSING, AND CAFETERIA PROGRAMS), ENVIRONMENTAL DESTRUCTION (TREE FELLING, GARBAGE GENERATION BY THE HAITIANS, ETC.).

The truth below:
This is GreenKaKa personal racist, ignorant view and commentary and does not reflect any economic reality Trade is good for the all island it create wealth and good relation.
I must point out that Mister GreenKaKa is in no way qualify or an expert in economical matter and from my humble opinion did not pass even high school economic
Excerpt by Steven M.Suranovic
“
The higher price received for each country's comparative advantage good would lead each country to specialize in that good. To accomplish this, labor would have to move from the comparative disadvantaged industry into the comparative advantage industry. This means that one industry goes out of business in each country. However, because the model assumes full employment and costless mobility of labor, all of these workers are immediately gainfully employed in the other industry.(
“
From the site of international trade theory and policy
http://internationalecon.com/Trade/Tch40/T40-...

GreenKaka said:
COMMERCE BETWEEN HAITI AND DR WILL MEAN THE DESTRUCTION OF DR! WE WERE DOING FINE WITHOUT HAITI BEFORE 1980! AFTER 1980 THE HAITIAN POPULATION IN DR GREW FROM 200,000 TO 2 MILLIONS (TODAY'S ESTIMATE 1.1 MILLION ILLEGALS + 0.9 MILLION WITH FALSE CEDULA AND/OR BIRTH CERTIFICATES).

The truth below:

The truth is, Haitians have been coming and living in DR way before DR was known as DR the figure 200,000 in 1980 that the author GreenKaka is quoting is fictive as himself.
Excerpt by Michael Deibert
This release came after September 2005, when a legal team that included Sonia Pierre, successfully argued before the Inter-American Commission on Human Rights that the Dominican Republic was in violation of Articles 3, 5, 19, 20 and 24 of the American Convention on Human Right Pact of San Jose, Costa Rica in denying citizenship to two young girls, Dilcia Yean and Violeta Bosico, born in the Dominican Republic. That decision also reinforced the fact that, in its denial of citizenship to persons born within its borders, the Dominican Republic was in violation of Article 11 of its own constitution,, which guarantees Dominican citizenship to the all those born within its territory save for those “in transit” and the children of foreign diplomats. The Fernández government has said that, though it has begun paying damages to the two girls, it intends to disregard the commission’s expansive ruling.
What has been the broader response of the Fernández government to these incidents ? A call to the rule of law ? An appeal to Dominicans to make their vibrant, culturally rich, economically viable nation a place where those of whatever descent and whatever skin color can live together ? Unfortunately, no.
Link
The Struggle for Haiti (Seven Stories Press). His blog can be read at www.michaeldeibert.blogspot.com .

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Zabulon wrote:

I love GREENWAVE
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and I thought i was the only one :(

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It is my opinion too, and I agree.

a littel bit of good news after all

http://interestalert.com/story/12060000aaa013...

antonioj1 wrote:

a littel bit of good news after all
http://interestalert.com/story/12060000aaa013...

Very good article...

i think domincan republic and haiti should and is the same, cause for the people information there like the same place, so be quiet whoever is haten!!

Kulturkampf wrote:

Here you have two poor countries. Dominican Republic is only SLIGHTLY less poor than Haiti. Notice how the Haitians NEED to trade with Dominican Republic anyways. The Dominican Supreme Court also ruled out birthright citizenship. However, it is a common law country. It's Civil Code. If the law doesn't say you can be a citizen, you can't. Over here we sometimes wonder what in the heck the law really means; hence lawyers.

Haitis is the poorest country on the western hemisphere...did you mean to say that Haitie is slighty poorer that DR????

Haitis/Haitie--> Haiti :0)

Njovin wrote:

i think domincan republic and haiti should and is the same, cause for the people information there like the same place, so be quiet whoever is haten!!

They are not the same at all. It is two cultures sharing an island.

They are two different coutries economically. Population wise also Dominicans; 11% Black 16% white and 73% mixed and that includes asians, middle eastern, East and West European, North and South Americans. Haiti about 90% Black 9% mixed and 1%white. Pretty big difference.

Here are two links of the two largest cities in the Dominican Republic.

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php...

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php...

Here are two links to show you the economic development that the Dominican Republic is going through. The two major cities in the island and the development does not stop there the entire island of the Dominican Republic is going through an economic revolution.

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php...

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php...

Although almost all migrants were assimilated into Dominican society (often with surprising speed and thoroughness), immigration had a pervasive influence on the ethnic and the racial configurations of the country. Within a generation or two, most immigrants were considered Dominican even though the family might well continue to maintain contact with relatives in the country of origin. Both the elite and the middle segments of society recruited new members with each economic expansion. The main impetus to immigration was the rise of sugar production in the late nineteenth and the early twentieth centuries. Nonetheless, some groups had earlier antecedents, while others arrived as late as the 1970s.

Nineteenth-century immigrants came from a number of places. Roughly 5,000 to 10,000 North American freedmen, principally Methodists, came in response to an offer of free land made during the period of Haitian domination (1822-44). Most, however, were city dwellers, and they quickly returned to the United States. A few small settlements remained around Santiago, Puerto Plata, and Samaná. They eventually were assimilated, although English was still widely used in the region of Samaná. Sephardic Jews arrived from Curaçao in the late eighteenth century and, in greater numbers, following independence from Haiti in 1844. They were assimilated rapidly; both their economic assets and their white ancestry made them desirable additions from the point of view of the Dominican criollos. Canary Islanders arrived during the late colonial period as well, in response to the improved economic conditions of the 1880s. Spaniards settled during the period of renewed Spanish occupation (1861-65); many Spanish soldiers stayed after the War of Restoration. Germans established themselves--principally in Puerto Plata--primarily in the tobacco trade.