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Anti-Haitian Bias Rooted in Dominican History

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Jul 23, 2008
 
Onde Vert wrote:
Kidnapping? In Haiti! That must be a mode of life there! Taking people away for money! PEW! YOU SUCK!
http://haitisupport.gn.apc.org/fea_news_index...
4 June - Thousands of protesters rallied outside government buildings in the capital Wednesday, demanding officials crack down on a four-year kidnapping scourge that has terrorized the Caribbean country. Well-dressed Haitians from the hills above Port-au-Prince and sitting lawmakers were among more than 2,000 demonstrators marching to the Justice Ministry and Supreme Court in a peaceful protest. Thousands more lined the streets to watch. U.N. police said more than 157 people have been kidnapped this year in Haiti, up 10 percent from last year to date and a rate of about one per day. Kidnappings for ransom have plagued the impoverished country since 2005, leaving restaurants empty, scaring away foreign investment and destabilizing the government. Almost every sector of society has been targeted, including schoolchildren and foreigners.
One protester carried a photo of Kareem Xavier Gaspard, a 16-year-old banker's son who was killed and dumped in an open-air market last month even though his parents paid abductors a ransom. "Haiti has a grave sickness," said Stephen William Phelps, a friend of the slain teenager's father. "We all have a responsibility to stand up and say no." Other recent kidnapping victims include a 32-year-old Canadian woman who had been in the country for less than a month and an 11-year-old boy who was snatched in recent days. Both were released unharmed, U.N. police spokesman Fred Blaise said.
Many of the protesters blamed the justice system for failing to round up kidnappers and punish them with life sentences in prison, the maximum penalty under Haitian law. They shouted "We are tired!" to onlookers on the balcony of the high court and waved signs reading "Kidnapping is a return to slavery." Pierre Esperance, director of the National Human Rights Defense Network, said suspects in kidnappings are finding ways to bribe their way out of trouble. "Many people here are arrested for kidnapping and the judicial system lets them go because someone has paid money," he said. "It is getting worse every day." (AP)
yeah right,you such an hypocrit,you hve been practicing kidnaping long before we even known about it,beside,you brought it to haiti.your criminals profited of the intability of the country to bring the kidnaping in.your problem is that you think that we are not aware of that,but you so wrong.DR is not in good shape either,the poverty rates is still high,your womens are prostituing all over the world. but you come here everyday talking like a jackass without pay any attention of wath going on in your on country.there's so many thing you should worry about.but your only agenda is to distroy haiti like you would have the time to do so.you are on the verge to a breakdown,your restless atitude will finaly take you down on a day that is not to far and i swear i cant wait for that day . in the meantime we are enjoying the entertaiment.goog luck
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Jul 24, 2008
 
Yesterday I was conversing with someone who owns a business in downtown PAP. He told me that back in 1988, there was a huuuuuuuuuuuuuge street protest that was about to reach the area where his business was located. He immediately shut his doors and ran upstairs to keep an 'eye' on the protest from up there where no one could see him.

He saw and heard a dominican who was standing on the sidewalk grab a large envelope and hand it over to who appeared to be the leader of the protest.

I have no doubt that some folks next door have direct and inderect involvement in a lot of what goes on in Haiti.
Sometimes I wonder...
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Jul 24, 2008
 
Onde vertcan you write something with your own words instead of the usual cut and paste.

Beside being stupid and ignorant it appear that you have zero creativity or imagination, by the way when are you morphing back to Greewave or pepe32
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Jul 24, 2008
 
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Onde vertcan you write something with your own words instead of the usual cut and paste.
Beside being stupid and ignorant it appear that you have zero creativity or imagination, by the way when are you morphing back to Greewave or pepe32
what can you expect from dung?

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Jul 24, 2008
 
dung verte?
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Jul 24, 2008
 
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Jul 24, 2008
 
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WOOPS! Your children digging for food in garbage dumpsters? That is a very foreign concept! KONGS GO BACK TO YOUR CAVE AND FIX IT! Your MERDE children are eating dirt and now, garbage!
Haitians recycle to survive
Posted on Mon, Jul. 21, 2008
http://www.miamiherald.com/news/americas/AP/s...
The Associated Press
Ariana Cubillos / AP Photo
A woman stands in an open sewage canal where she collects bottles to then sell to a recycling plant in La Saline neighborhood in Port-au-Prince, June 10, 2008. Haitians facing widespread unemployment or a minimum wage of less than $2 a day are turning to the junk that litters the streets for survival.
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PORT-AU-PRINCE, Haiti -- Haitians facing widespread unemployment or a minimum wage of less than US$2 a day are turning to the junk that litters the streets for survival.
Thousands of Haitians amass and haul scrap metal, plastic bottles, even abandoned cars to recycling plants such as GS Industries SA, one of the capital city's largest, where they are melted and exported to countries throughout the Americas and Asia.
Delicame Giles, 56, collects discarded plastic bottles that flow with the rain through an open canal, earning about US$8 a week. She has no other means of support. Her husband is dead, and her children are unemployed.
"I have been doing this work for one year," Giles said. "I wouldn't do it, but life is so hard, I'm forced to. Sometimes I sit here with my eyeballs popping out. I feel like they're going to pop out of my head, I'm so hungry."
GS Industries manager Stephane Sajous says recycling in Haiti serves two purposes: cleaning the countryside and creating raw materials for the rest of the world.
"All solid trash has a consumer who can recycle it and make something new," Sajous said.
see,you must be fataly hit by a car when you where little,cuz just the other day,the picture of your children was showing, digging for food in a river of garbage.children digging in garbage are not a foreing concept to you at all because it's been going on right under your nose.so let us deal with it ,deal with yours.
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Jul 24, 2008
 
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At least we don't send our children to prostitution and slavery like some KONGS next door! You are the most despicable animals on earth!
ONU y OEA dicen se traficó con 30.000 niños haitianos
http://www.medicos-progresistas.org/modules.p...
july 11,2005
Reuters. 07.11.2005 - 10:56h
Reuters PUERTO PRÍNCIPE (Reuters)- Cerca de 30.000 niños haitianos son ilegalmente vendidos a República Dominicana cada año para trabajar en prostitución o en otras ocupaciones degradantes, dijeron el domingo responsables de la ONU y la OEA.
En Haití, los niños son reclutados como miembros de pandillas, torturados, secuestrados, y sufren abusos sexuales y físicos, son abandonados o tratados como basura, dijeron la UNICEF, la fundación para los niños de las Naciones Unidas (ONU) y la Comisión Interamericana de Derechos Humanos de la Organización de Estados Americanos
(OEA).
La consejera de UNICEF para la región, Maria Jesús Conde, y el relator de la Comisión Interamericana para los derechos del niño, Paulo Sergio Pinheiro, dijeron tras una gira de cuatro días para recolectar datos en la isla caribeña de La Española, compartida por Haití y la República Dominicana, que estaban muy preocupados por el destino de los niños haitianos.
'La delegación expresa su profunda preocupación por las denuncias que recibió sobre el comercio de niños y adolescentes forzados a tareas domésticas y a la explotación sexual', dijeron Conde y Pinheiro en un comunicado conjunto.
Las dos organizaciones también denunciaron lo que dijeron era la detención más prolongada de niños de tan sólo 10 años sin cargos por las autoridades haitianas.
Haití es el país más pobre de América, golpeado por la inestabilidad política y la falta de ley. La mayoría de los nueve millones de habitantes ganan menos de 2 dólares (unos 1,69 euros) al día.
Se cree que hasta un millón de inmigrantes ilegales haitianos trabajan en las fábricas, las plantaciones de azúcar y los ranchos de ganado de la mucho más próspera región de República Dominicana.
A pesar de la presencia de más de 7.000 miembros de los cuerpos de paz de la ONU, liderados por Brasil, y de la policía internacional, el país se ha encaminado a un caos más profundo desde que el presidente Jean-Bertrand Aristide fue depuesto en una revuelta armada en febrero de 2004.
Aristide, un ex sacerdote acusado de corrupción y despotismo, está exiliado en Sudáfrica.
UNICEF y la OEA dijeron que la pobreza y la casi completa ausencia de autoridad estatal en Haití eran las culpables de esta situación.
Las organizaciones llamaron especialmente a las Naciones Unidas a aumentar sus esfuerzos, para garantizar que los haitianos que viven en las villas controladas por bandas armadas tengan acceso a la asistencia humanitaria.
Otros grupos de derechos humanos estimaron que hasta 300.000 niños haitianos son usados como sirvientes domésticos en Haití y muchos son objeto de la violencia y el abuso sexual.
Pinheiro dijo que se podrían tomar medidas para asegurar que los derechos humanos no sean ignorados.
'Asegurarse que cada niño tenga un certificado de nacimiento no es una tarea difícil para el gobierno', dijo.
/Por Joseph Guyler Delva/.*.
what's the difference,your girls start to prostitute at a very young age all over the world.i woul live that subject alone if i was you.you see GREENWAVE,i have a lot of respect for the dominican people,they treated my children very good when they lived there,so i personaly ask you to stop that stupidity,i dont feel good talking about them that way,it's not fair,so please stop for the sake of your people,leave it alone.this kind of ofensiveness is very damaging for both of the country.if what's left of your damaged brain is still working,give it a thought.peace.
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Jul 24, 2008
 
Zabulon wrote:
Yesterday I was conversing with someone who owns a business in downtown PAP. He told me that back in 1988, there was a huuuuuuuuuuuuuge street protest that was about to reach the area where his business was located. He immediately shut his doors and ran upstairs to keep an 'eye' on the protest from up there where no one could see him.
He saw and heard a dominican who was standing on the sidewalk grab a large envelope and hand it over to who appeared to be the leader of the protest.
I have no doubt that some folks next door have direct and inderect involvement in a lot of what goes on in Haiti.
Sometimes I wonder...
i been telling you people that for a long time already.they are involved in every bad things that going on in haiti,i swear on that .haiti will stay that way until someone comes alone and wake us up under the lethargy they[dominicans government and his people] put us on.
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#11011
Jul 25, 2008
 
Hey,Onde Vert these Monkeys just don't get it.They
seem not to WANT!!!! to understand the FACT!!! that the're not in anyway helping the current situations,but only making things worser and to
those people like that support this haitian invasion in DR and in other places,well I've got
something to tell them "F--KING DIE" it's things like that,which cause us to HATE those F--KING
MONKEYS,they can ALL rot in HELL!!!!!!!.
"!!!!!!!!OFF WITH THEIR HEADS!!!!!!".

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Jul 25, 2008
 
willy wrote:
Hey,Onde Vert these Monkeys just don't get it.They
seem not to WANT!!!! to understand the FACT!!! that the're not in anyway helping the current situations,but only making things worser and to
those people like that support this haitian invasion in DR and in other places,well I've got
something to tell them "F--KING DIE" it's things like that,which cause us to HATE those F--KING
MONKEYS,they can ALL rot in HELL!!!!!!!.
"!!!!!!!!OFF WITH THEIR HEADS!!!!!!".
A little schooling goes a long way. Punctuation where they don't belong " !!! " ... "making things worser..." ...

Wow, that, plus the idiocies of your attitude coupled with your pea sized brain, that makes for an explosive mixture. So no surprise here.
JUST ANOTHER IDIOT ! The real question is, who is dumber: greensh1t or your ass.
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Jul 25, 2008
 
willy wrote:
Hey,Onde Vert these Monkeys just don't get it.They
seem not to WANT!!!! to understand the FACT!!! that the're not in anyway helping the current situations,but only making things worser and to
those people like that support this haitian invasion in DR and in other places,well I've got
something to tell them "F--KING DIE" it's things like that,which cause us to HATE those F--KING
MONKEYS,they can ALL rot in HELL!!!!!!!.
"!!!!!!!!OFF WITH THEIR HEADS!!!!!!".
Well, well, well, the monkey calling monkies, monkies...

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#11014
Jul 25, 2008
 
I just LOOOOOVE them "monkey" references. As if monkey = blacks. Well I got news for you dumbf_ck. You just as monkeyish as they come, just look in the mirror. When you're done, look around you. Dumb_ss
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Jul 25, 2008
 
Zabulon wrote:
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A little schooling goes a long way. Punctuation where they don't belong " !!! " ... "making things worser..." ...
Wow, that, plus the idiocies of your attitude coupled with your pea sized brain, that makes for an explosive mixture. So no surprise here.
JUST ANOTHER IDIOT ! The real question is, who is dumber: greensh1t or your ass.
Every time this guy writes, he demonstrates his
pathetic level of ignorance, and poor education.
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Jul 25, 2008
 
keep morphing donkey ...
willy wrote:
Hey,Onde Vert these Monkeys just don't get it.They
seem not to WANT!!!! to understand the FACT!!! that the're not in anyway helping the current situations,but only making things worser and to
those people like that support this haitian invasion in DR and in other places,well I've got
something to tell them "F--KING DIE" it's things like that,which cause us to HATE those F--KING
MONKEYS,they can ALL rot in HELL!!!!!!!.
"!!!!!!!!OFF WITH THEIR HEADS!!!!!!".

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Jul 25, 2008
 
willy wrote:
Hey,Onde Vert these Monkeys just don't get it.They
seem not to WANT!!!! to understand the FACT!!! that the're not in anyway helping the current situations,but only making things worser and to
those people like that support this haitian invasion in DR and in other places,well I've got
something to tell them "F--KING DIE" it's things like that,which cause us to HATE those F--KING
MONKEYS,they can ALL rot in HELL!!!!!!!.
"!!!!!!!!OFF WITH THEIR HEADS!!!!!!".
Now we have to deal with an onde vert jr.
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Jul 25, 2008
 
space jam wrote:
<quoted text>what's the difference,your girls start to prostitute at a very young age all over the world.i woul live that subject alone if i was you.you see GREENWAVE,i have a lot of respect for the dominican people,they treated my children very good when they lived there,so i personaly ask you to stop that stupidity,i dont feel good talking about them that way,it's not fair,so please stop for the sake of your people,leave it alone.this kind of ofensiveness is very damaging for both of the country.if what's left of your damaged brain is still working,give it a thought.peace.
It is not stupidity! It is what it is! You send your children for slavery and prostitution. Provide the forum with proof that a signifcant percent of young (<17) Dominican girls engage in prostitution! Let's see how far you can go!

600,000 in Haiti itself, 30,000 per year sent to DR for slavery and fornication, and an untold number are used as slave & sexual partners in south Florida!
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Jul 25, 2008
 
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<quoted text>yeah right,you such an hypocrit,you hve been practicing kidnaping long before we even known about it,beside,you brought it to haiti.your criminals profited of the intability of the country to bring the kidnaping in.your problem is that you think that we are not aware of that,but you so wrong.DR is not in good shape either,the poverty rates is still high,your womens are prostituing all over the world. but you come here everyday talking like a jackass without pay any attention of wath going on in your on country.there's so many thing you should worry about.but your only agenda is to distroy haiti like you would have the time to do so.you are on the verge to a breakdown,your restless atitude will finaly take you down on a day that is not to far and i swear i cant wait for that day . in the meantime we are enjoying the entertaiment.goog luck
We mingle with you? YUKKK! Prove to the forum that Dominicans are instigating your instability in Haiti! IF DR is so bad, SO WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING IN DR AND MIGRATING THERE FOR? GET THE HELL OUT OF THERE! IT IS DANGEROUS THERE! GO BACK TO HAITI WHERE IT IS MORE PEACEFULL AND PROSPEROUS!
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Jul 25, 2008
 
You brought AIDS to the Americas! Your first case of Aids was reported in 1978. The first case in the U.S. was 1981! You are a freaking problem! You are sick like hell!

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In 1987 there were an estimated 1,500 people suffering from acquired immune deficiency syndrome (AIDS) in Haiti. Most of the cases were reported in Port-au-Prince. The earliest reported case of human immunodeficiency virus (HIV) infection was in 1978, and the earliest case of AIDS-related Karposi's sarcoma was in 1979. About two of every five AIDS patients in Haiti in 1987 were women. The exact number of people infected with HIV was unknown, but one sample of pregnant women in a poor neighborhood of the capital revealed that 8 percent tested positive for the virus. Most people infected with HIV appear to have contracted the virus through heterosexual intercourse. Transfusions of infected blood also were responsible for transmitting the virus to large numbers of people, especially women, who routinely received blood after childbirth. The Haitian Red Cross did not begin screening the blood supply in Port-au-Prince for HIV until 1986. Blood supplies outside the capital continued to be unscreened in the late 1980s. The use of contaminated needles accounted for 5 percent of the country's AIDS cases.

Homosexual activity has contributed to the spread of AIDS in Haiti. AIDS transmission was also related to female and male prostitution. At least 50 percent of the female prostitutes in the capital city's main prostitution center were believed to be infected with HIV.

Because of the prevalence of AIDS in the Haitian immigrant population, the United States Center for Disease Control classified Haitians as a high-risk group for the disease in 1982. It rescinded the classification in 1985, however. Early studies suggested that Haiti might have been the origin of the disease. By the late 1980s, most AIDS researchers in Haiti claimed that male homosexual tourists brought the disease to the country in the late 1970s.
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Jul 25, 2008
 
Kidnappings? Kidnappings? Oh my gosh! The KONGS learned how to steal people!

Haitians demand crackdown on kidnappings
5 June 2008
http://www.haiti-info.com/spip.php... :
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Thousands of protesters rallied outside government buildings in the Haitian capital Wednesday, demanding that officials crack down on a four-year kidnapping scourge.

Well-dressed Haitians from the hills above Port-au-Prince and lawmakers were among more than 2,000 demonstrators marching to the Justice Ministry and Supreme Court in a peaceful protest. Thousands more lined the streets.

U.N. police said more than 157 people have been kidnapped this year in Haiti, up 10 percent from last year to date and a rate of about one per day.

Kidnappings for ransom have plagued the impoverished country since 2005, leaving restaurants empty, scaring away foreign investment and destabilizing the government. Almost every sector of society has been targeted, including schoolchildren and foreigners.

One protester carried a photo of Kareem Xavier Gaspard, a 16-year-old banker’s son who was killed and dumped in an open-air market last month even though his parents paid a ransom.

"Haiti has a grave sickness," said Stephen William Phelps, a friend of the slain teenager’s father. "We all have a responsibility to stand up and say no."

Other recent kidnapping victims include a 32-year-old Canadian woman who had been in the country for less than a month and an 11-year-old boy who was snatched in recent days. Both were released unharmed, U.N. police spokesman Fred Blaise said.

Many of the protesters blamed the justice system for failing to round up kidnappers and punish them with life sentences in prison, the maximum penalty under Haitian law. They shouted "We are tired!" to onlookers on the balcony of the high court and waved signs reading "Kidnapping is a return to slavery."

Pierre Esperance, director of the National Human Rights Defense Network, said suspects in kidnappings are finding ways to bribe their way out of trouble.

"Many people here are arrested for kidnapping and the judicial system lets them go because someone has paid money," he said. "It is getting worse every day."

Justice ministry officials could not be reached to comment. A 2007 report by the U.S. Agency for International Development said judges are not well vetted and that police are suspected of sometimes not executing warrants because of corruption and intimidation.

The president of the capital’s chamber of commerce, Jean Robert Argant, said protesters also are demanding a complete inquiry to determine whether politicians or other prominent Haitians sponsor kidnappings for political or economic gain.
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