No Trinity, No Christianity :

If any doctrine makes Christianity Christian, then surely it is the doctrine of the Trinity. The three great ecumenical creeds—the Apostles’ Creed, the Nicene Creed, and the Athanasian Creed—are all structured around our three in one God, underlying the essential importance of Trinitarian theology.

Jehovah Witness may not agree with you.

Jesus said himself he is the son of God, we know God son is not a son like any human.. Jesus said he is not of this world.

To deny he is the son is the anti-Christ.

Cohan Van achtern,
No one awaiting your agreement. Human flesh and blood,couldn't be god ever,as the human disposes what he ever eats.If he eats food he needs to dispose it in WC..So,this not god but a human and a human never be a god,as god is a spirit not flesh and blood.

For one if you belive God made us, I doubt he find our bodies that he made shameful.

Second God has no limits, why are you thinking he couldn't do anything? Why don't you go tell God he cannot do this or that?

Lastly, Jesus is the son of God, the father is always in heaven. God is almighty and can be in flesh and still be fully God in heaven.

Just like God can hear billions of prayer at one time, or can hear a prayer in Saudi Arabia while also hearing prayers in Brazil at the same time. Again no limits.

Your understanding of the trinity is of a very confused individual.

Hardhead wrote:

Cohan Van achtern,
No one awaiting your agreement. Human flesh and blood,couldn't be god ever,as the human disposes what he ever eats.If he eats food he needs to dispose it in WC..So,this not god but a human and a human never be a god,as god is a spirit not flesh and blood.

Cohan van ach tern,
You're taking your poor soul voluntarily to a lake of hell fire.the next life and those whom you mislead them to divil way to hell.
Trinity was developed in 325 AD by Pagan emporer of Romans. Trinity is a pagan doctrine..

J_a_n wrote:

For one if you belive God made us, I doubt he find our bodies that he made shameful.
Second God has no limits, why are you thinking he couldn't do anything? Why don't you go tell God he cannot do this or that?
Lastly, Jesus is the son of God, the father is always in heaven. God is almighty and can be in flesh and still be fully God in heaven.
Just like God can hear billions of prayer at one time, or can hear a prayer in Saudi Arabia while also hearing prayers in Brazil at the same time. Again no limits.
Your understanding of the trinity is of a very confused individual.
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My God need we go there again ???

Father, son and Holy Spirit are from Jesus time and found in ancient Bibles.

Hardhead wrote:

Cohan van ach tern,
You're taking your poor soul voluntarily to a lake of hell fire.the next life and those whom you mislead them to divil way to hell.
Trinity was developed in 325 AD by Pagan emporer of Romans. Trinity is a pagan doctrine..
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Cohan van achtern,
Itsn't in the bible..

J_a_n wrote:

Father, son and Holy Spirit are from Jesus time and found in ancient Bibles.
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Cohan van achtern,

Christians are faced with a dilemma. The Bible says in the Old Testament, "I, even I, am the Lord; and besides me there is no savior" (Isa. 43:11). "Salvation belongeth unto the Lord ..." (Psalms 3:8. "For I am the Lord thy God, the Holy One of Israel, thy Saviour ..."

“Lots of Christians wear crosses around their necks … you really think when Jesus comes back, he ever wants to see a fecking cross?”
&#8213; Bill Hicks, Relentless.

Trinity is a Pagan's doctrine which was introduced by Roman Emperor in 325 AD. It's man-made stuff..

The Jewish doctrine of a monotheistic Deity was replaced by the pagan doctrine of a polytheism Deity (Trinity), along with that the Name of the GOD of the Jews (Hebrews) was changed from YAHVEH {YHVH}{&#1497;&#1492; &#1493;&#1492;} to Jehovah, LORD, GOD, etc.

YAHVEH is One GOD and Not a Trinity

Incorrect, there is a Messiah to come in the Old Testament. See these Old Testament "Tenakh" verses...

Leviticus 17:11 For the life of the "flesh is in the blood": and I have given it to you upon the altar to make an atonement for your souls: for it is the blood that maketh an atonement for the soul.

Isaiah 7:14 Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.

Psalms 2:7 I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.

Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

Psalms 22:16 ...they pierced my hands and my feet.[this verses was written about 1,000 BC] WOW!!!

Zechariah 12:10 ...they shall look upon me whom they have pierced..

Psalms 110:1-3 The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool. The LORD shall send the rod of thy strength out of Zion: rule thou in the midst of thine enemies. Thy people shall be willing in the day of thy power, in the beauties of holiness from the womb of the morning: thou hast the dew of thy youth.

Hardhead wrote:

Cohan van achtern,
Christians are faced with a dilemma. The Bible says in the Old Testament, "I, even I, am the Lord; and besides me there is no savior" (Isa. 43:11). "Salvation belongeth unto the Lord ..." (Psalms 3:8. "For I am the Lord thy God, the Holy One of Israel, thy Saviour ..."

You deny we have a spirit? Without the spirit there is no afterlife and your religion would therefore be meaningless!

Hardhead wrote:

YAHVEH is One GOD and Not a Trinity

J_a_n wrote:

Father, son and Holy Spirit are from Jesus time and found in ancient Bibles.
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You mean the "ancient" new testament LMAO

Van achtern,
CHRISTIAN CORRUPTIONS OF SCRIPTURE
"How can you say,`We are wise, And the law of YEHVAH is with us'? But behold, THE LYING PEN of the SCRIBES has MADE IT into A LIE".
[Jeremiah 8:8]
"And the fourth messenger trumpeted and the third of the sun was CORRUPTED and the third of the moon and the third of the stars; in order that the third of them might be darkened and the light of this age not be seen-the third part of it- and the twister away of the light likewise"
(Revelation 8:12. See this website)

"Outside are the dogs, the sorcerers, the fornicators, the murderers, the idolaters, and everyone who loves and MAKES A LIE"
[Revelation 22:15)

Ok get this straight people ;

T-R-N-I-T-Y = ME ... MYSELF ... and .. I !!!!

p-e-r-i-o-d !!!!

There is no other possibility ..... STOP !

Brokkir wrote:

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You mean the "ancient" new testament LMAO

Please do explain why we are going here again ???? Trinity = 1and1an1 = the holy who knows what ......... and who cares .....

I happend to have graduated from GWU ions ago and if my old memory recalls 1 + 1 + 1 = 3. But then again in this new world of techno and whatever, it could be different with the numbers I was taught.

LMAO re the "NT", it does apear that it is a notch better than the OT ... LOL ... but frankly now a days niether make any common sence in todays society.

Hardhead and Jan keep telling me to not give up and have faith. Yeah I have faith alright in my own self and nothing more. I am alive because of me and a few pills NOTHING ELSE !!!!!!

Back from the Hospital, still have fever, they can't figure out what the heck is wrong with me ..... wondering why God ain't guiding them .....?????

Nough said.

Hardhead wrote:

Trinity is a Pagan's doctrine which was introduced by Roman Emperor in 325 AD. It's man-made stuff..

Constantine was first Christian King.... of course i can understand why you jealous.... and what you call than Matthew 28:19

"Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,"

Where as your holly quran said..... Mary was one of the Trinity!!!