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Jan 28, 2006
 
To Danish people and to Muslims all around the globe;

We cannot change what happened, it is a fact now. But we have the chance to look for a better future.

To Muslims, our Prophet was hurt by his own people in Mecca, and he forgave them all. Muslims are good because they can forgive. People in Mecca thought Muslims were going to kill them, but they were surprised as Mohammed forgave them.

Muslims DO FORGIVE, as Mohammed himself forgave.

One more thing to Muslims, Allah said in the Holy Quran: " wala tazer wazerton wezr okhra" it means that know one can be taken for a sin (or a mistake) he did not do. Everyone is only risponsible about his own acts.

We All love Mohammed, but we can't change these drawings now.

To Danish People, Please read about Islam, PLEASE READ ABOUT MOHAMMED. Read in Islamic websites, know what Islam is all about. The western Media Broadcast a different point of veiw, try to see the things the way we see it.
Now, you all know that Muslims do not accept any kind of insults (or even jokes) on Allah, Mohammed and Islam itself. So I really hope, we don't see such drawings again.
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in the name of free porn

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Jan 28, 2006
 
abdulla wrote:
Danes have been insulting Prophet Muhammad for a long time now.

1. First time they did it was in a sex magazine.
Here they said that Muhammad has a harem (because of the many wifes)

2. Second time they made a picture of Prophet Muhammad (saws) as a women with the text; who can be sure that he is not a woman, Estafirullah

3. Third time is what we are witnessing now.

denmark and danes will continue their hate propaganda, until muslims answer back.

The real problem is that danes hates muslims. Denmark has several times been discribed as the most rasict country in Europe.

A recent danish parlament member (Louise Frevert) just said that muslims are like cancer cells and can only be removed my killing.

A LIST OF DANISH COMPANIES CAN BE FOUND HERE:

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Wasalam.
this is not true, expect that we've got free porn, and thank god for that. I would like to know where you have got these argument from. I am porn reader and never read any article in a porn magzine about mohammed. you offenden my porn friends. shame on you. no one should ever critisize our porn proudness.
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Jan 28, 2006
 
Ahmed wrote:
To Danish people and to Muslims all around the globe;

We cannot change what happened, it is a fact now. But we have the chance to look for a better future.

To Muslims, our Prophet was hurt by his own people in Mecca, and he forgave them all. Muslims are good because they can forgive. People in Mecca thought Muslims were going to kill them, but they were surprised as Mohammed forgave them.

Muslims DO FORGIVE, as Mohammed himself forgave.

One more thing to Muslims, Allah said in the Holy Quran: " wala tazer wazerton wezr okhra" it means that know one can be taken for a sin (or a mistake) he did not do. Everyone is only risponsible about his own acts.

We All love Mohammed, but we can't change these drawings now.

To Danish People, Please read about Islam, PLEASE READ ABOUT MOHAMMED. Read in Islamic websites, know what Islam is all about. The western Media Broadcast a different point of veiw, try to see the things the way we see it.
Now, you all know that Muslims do not accept any kind of insults (or even jokes) on Allah, Mohammed and Islam itself. So I really hope, we don't see such drawings again.
Please Visit
http://www.understanding-islam.com/related/sc...
and
http://www.beconvinced.com/en/main.php

wish you all the Best
all we need is love,

great to see a Muslim that can forgive. peace love harmony
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Jan 28, 2006
 
abdulla wrote:
Danes have been insulting Prophet Muhammad for a long time now.

1. First time they did it was in a sex magazine.
Here they said that Muhammad has a harem (because of the many wifes)

2. Second time they made a picture of Prophet Muhammad (saws) as a women with the text; who can be sure that he is not a woman, Estafirullah

3. Third time is what we are witnessing now.

denmark and danes will continue their hate propaganda, until muslims answer back.

The real problem is that danes hates muslims. Denmark has several times been discribed as the most rasict country in Europe.

A recent danish parlament member (Louise Frevert) just said that muslims are like cancer cells and can only be removed my killing.

A LIST OF DANISH COMPANIES CAN BE FOUND HERE:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Compani...

Wasalam.
Ya Louise was a bit fucked in the situration but loads of people critised her for that. But you cannot mix that up with the drawings. IIn no way you can not do that.

The problem with you people is that you mix up to many things, you don't know much about
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#30
Jan 28, 2006
 
Read this editorial by one of the Saudi Newspapers :

The publication of the Danish illustrations of the Prophet (peace be upon him) and their republication in Norway offers not one but two separate offenses to the Muslim world. The most obvious is that not only was the Prophet depicted in ten of the twelve cartoons, but also that one of the illustrations portrayed him as a terrorist. The second offense is that people in Denmark and Norway and no doubt in most of Europe and North America seem blissfully unaware of precisely how outrageous these images are to Islamic sensibilities.

The civilized world, including every single Muslim country, is part of the struggle against the international terror of Al-Qaeda and its offshoots. Every reputable Muslim leader has condemned their crimes and made it absolutely clear that the terrorists’ claims to be acting in the name of Islam are utterly false. Muslim communities, in the West, especially in the US, Spain and the UK, where there has been direct experience of Al-Qaeda’s depravity, have gone out of their way to state unequivocally that they deplore without reservation these barbarous acts. In the wake of the London bombings, it seemed that the message that Muslims were not terrorists was getting across. The British authorities with Muslim and other faith leaders worked hard to calm anger and maintain a proper sense of proportion. Yes, the bombers were all Muslims, but they were dupes of the heinous doctrines of a few evil teachers. Muslim communities have declared this again and again. Yet the doltish notion that every Muslim is a terrorist clearly persists in some quarters. A cartoonist in Denmark believed he could raise a smirk among his readers by perpetuating this distortion by depicting the Prophet in a scabrous manner.

What is so deeply disappointing is that the Danish and indeed Norwegian authorities have failed to adequately condemn the publication of the image or to directly apologize for the hurt it has caused to everyone in the Muslim world. Instead, we have heard the usual responses about freedom of speech and governments having no control over the press and media. Setting aside the possibility that these publications — like many in Europe — may in fact be the direct beneficiaries of public government subsidies and tax breaks, this issue of an “independent” media is a red herring. No one is talking about censorship.

What Muslims are saying that with every freedom comes a responsibility. Hopefully out of ignorance rather than malevolence, something deeply painful to the entire Muslim world was published in a Danish newspaper. That in itself was an irresponsible use of the freedom of the press, which in no country anywhere is an unlimited freedom allowing journalists to vilify, libel or lie.

Yet what has made matters worse is that the only regret felt by the Danish authorities seems to be over the difficulties the cartoon has created for them. It would be such a simple matter to recognize that the newspaper had exceeded decent norms and therefore to condemn not only the cartoon, but the provocative and unenlightened message within it. This is a very sad business.
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#31
Jan 28, 2006
 
Lars wrote:
oh man hwy can't you muslim far far away from the cold northern europe relaaaaax it is just some naive drawings and not to forget very old news
We want to relax we do ,,,BUT You faraway cold europe Won't let us won't you ...SO we will try to give you real hard day
You statrted it kid
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#32
Jan 28, 2006
 
Jamil wrote:
Muhammad at 45 years of age married a 7 year old girl.
He had too much blood on his hand spreading the "peacful" Islam.
Jamil
What do You think USA is doing in the Middle East spreading NOW ???!!! Our blood is not considered blood ..?
Yes it is ..and they will pay with blood too
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Jan 29, 2006
 
dolph the blue hippo wrote:
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thats what we call Paedophile in europe.
Listen hippo

first she was 14 yrs
second she was legally married to him
third what your 6 yrs old girls sexually offended by there relatives and at 10 they are sexually active with dozen of men
your society is a society of animals so Just shut up
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#34
Jan 29, 2006
 
4rtunately there are still people, in this world, being pious and standing for their religious beliefs, something that we, christians, have, un4rtunately, abandoned years ago.... If i were in their shoes, I would have done the same (i.e. boycot danish products or whatever....). After all, this helarious depiction of the Prophet was evidently a direct insult to the muslim religion and to its fundamental ethics and principals. What if an arab newspaper was depicting e.g. Jesus in the same way? Would all the Christians around the world be happy and laugh on it? I think that this decision of boycotting the danish products was more than justified and at least the same danish newspaper should come back and issue an article, regretting/apologising for the despicable caricature. But moreover, PEACE....
you dont get it

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Jan 29, 2006
 
Khaled wrote:
Read this editorial by one of the Saudi Newspapers :

The publication of the Danish illustrations of the Prophet (peace be upon him) and their republication in Norway offers not one but two separate offenses to the Muslim world. The most obvious is that not only was the Prophet depicted in ten of the twelve cartoons, but also that one of the illustrations portrayed him as a terrorist. The second offense is that people in Denmark and Norway and no doubt in most of Europe and North America seem blissfully unaware of precisely how outrageous these images are to Islamic sensibilities.

The civilized world, including every single Muslim country, is part of the struggle against the international terror of Al-Qaeda and its offshoots. Every reputable Muslim leader has condemned their crimes and made it absolutely clear that the terrorists’ claims to be acting in the name of Islam are utterly false. Muslim communities, in the West, especially in the US, Spain and the UK, where there has been direct experience of Al-Qaeda’s depravity, have gone out of their way to state unequivocally that they deplore without reservation these barbarous acts. In the wake of the London bombings, it seemed that the message that Muslims were not terrorists was getting across. The British authorities with Muslim and other faith leaders worked hard to calm anger and maintain a proper sense of proportion. Yes, the bombers were all Muslims, but they were dupes of the heinous doctrines of a few evil teachers. Muslim communities have declared this again and again. Yet the doltish notion that every Muslim is a terrorist clearly persists in some quarters. A cartoonist in Denmark believed he could raise a smirk among his readers by perpetuating this distortion by depicting the Prophet in a scabrous manner.

What is so deeply disappointing is that the Danish and indeed Norwegian authorities have failed to adequately condemn the publication of the image or to directly apologize for the hurt it has caused to everyone in the Muslim world. Instead, we have heard the usual responses about freedom of speech and governments having no control over the press and media. Setting aside the possibility that these publications — like many in Europe — may in fact be the direct beneficiaries of public government subsidies and tax breaks, this issue of an “independent” media is a red herring. No one is talking about censorship.

What Muslims are saying that with every freedom comes a responsibility. Hopefully out of ignorance rather than malevolence, something deeply painful to the entire Muslim world was published in a Danish newspaper. That in itself was an irresponsible use of the freedom of the press, which in no country anywhere is an unlimited freedom allowing journalists to vilify, libel or lie.

Yet what has made matters worse is that the only regret felt by the Danish authorities seems to be over the difficulties the cartoon has created for them. It would be such a simple matter to recognize that the newspaper had exceeded decent norms and therefore to condemn not only the cartoon, but the provocative and unenlightened message within it. This is a very sad business.
that jopurnalist hasn't got has he, I mean you need bright side man, no one died, that is the differens between caartooons and teorism
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#36
Jan 29, 2006
 
what this journalist don't get like many of you haven't got yet, it is humour. these drawings were done by people who is not religius. remember that religion might be the biggest lie ever.

The thing is that most drawings are very old jokes. the one with teorists standing in que up in heavben saying: "sorry guys we do not have any more Virgins" the one that you apprently do like, with bumb well is very provocatie, that is true, but agian the news paper were asking how the illustrator imagined mohammed. apparently there was an illustrator that imagized him like that. Another one took inspiratoion from the Danish party lleader Pia Kjærsgård who is on loads of the drawings.

I have no idea as a Dane why the Norwegians publish the drawings. it is their problem not ours.

Not to forget that some Imans from denmark have told lies about how the situration was in Denmark, it is not that bad as they have told.

you guys should relax get over it move on look forward for the spring and summer go to the beach see some nude women. share a beer have a laugh chil out man. Make joke about us draw some drawings how you see us but try make it fun.
remember a cow from Denmark that produces butter milk for you guys does'n have anything to do with the drawings. It is just a cow.

my question is why you first react now on such an old news.
what we need is real men like Helmut Lotti and sylvester stalone.
DanishMichael

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#37
Jan 29, 2006
 
Most of you don't know what you're talking about.

The newspaper has stated, from day of this affair, that it regrets if peoples feelings were hurt by the cartoons, it was not its intent. It does not, however, apologize for publishing them. Nor should it.
The whole affair was started when the newspaper learned people were censoring themselves with regards to Islam. Fearing that freedom og speech was suffering as a result, they asked 40 caricaturists to depict Muhammed. Only 12 replied, and 2 were not of the prophet.
The caricatures were then published alongside an article regarding the erosion of free speech and self-censorship. It would have been silly for the paper to talk about freedom of speech and self-censorship, and at the same time practice self-censorship.
The caricature/picture of the female Muhammed someone was addressing earlier, did not come prior to the caricatures in Jyllands-Posten, it came after. Muslims who want to use this picture as a reason to call us racists and what not, should know that Muhammed wasn't the only one being "mocked" in that particular series of caricatures; christians were also "mocked".
The only thing muslims are proving with this boycott, and their ignorant responses on fora like this one, is that they have very limited knowledge of what has actually taken place in Denmark. Like the good sheep they are, they simply follow the instructions of their religious leaders. They are ofcourse free to do so, but do not dare claim we have no respect for other religions, when most muslim nations persecute non-muslims.
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Jan 29, 2006
 
DanishMichael wrote:
Most of you don't know what you're talking about.

The newspaper has stated, from day of this affair, that it regrets if peoples feelings were hurt by the cartoons, it was not its intent. It does not, however, apologize for publishing them. Nor should it.
The whole affair was started when the newspaper learned people were censoring themselves with regards to Islam. Fearing that freedom og speech was suffering as a result, they asked 40 caricaturists to depict Muhammed. Only 12 replied, and 2 were not of the prophet.
The caricatures were then published alongside an article regarding the erosion of free speech and self-censorship. It would have been silly for the paper to talk about freedom of speech and self-censorship, and at the same time practice self-censorship.
The caricature/picture of the female Muhammed someone was addressing earlier, did not come prior to the caricatures in Jyllands-Posten, it came after. Muslims who want to use this picture as a reason to call us racists and what not, should know that Muhammed wasn't the only one being "mocked" in that particular series of caricatures; christians were also "mocked".
The only thing muslims are proving with this boycott, and their ignorant responses on fora like this one, is that they have very limited knowledge of what has actually taken place in Denmark. Like the good sheep they are, they simply follow the instructions of their religious leaders. They are ofcourse free to do so, but do not dare claim we have no respect for other religions, when most muslim nations persecute non-muslims.
great to another great dane here. thanks mate.

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Jan 29, 2006
 
What you see is Moslems trying to control our freedom of speech, that's their first step to for occupation. Christians, Jewish, Hindus, and Buddhists have been made fun of many times in the past but you never seen them carry on like these moslems do. Islam isn't peace and that's a fact. Take a look at this terror map. http://www.voiceofthebelievers.com/terrormap....
Remember Theo Van Gogh? He was slaughtered over his freedom. It's happening all over the world, not just the middle east. I say stop immigration and kick moslems out of the west. They don't come here for freedom, they come to occupy. There's a Big War coming very soon and it's all because of Islam/Moslems making threats to us. They aren't here to be equal. It's all in the Quran. For nearly 1600 years they have wanted to take over the world. There so called holy book calls for it. Read it. They have murdered 2.6 million Christians in Sudan and Indonesia has had thousands of deaths for the same reason. Every country they go to, this happens. We will stop them but many innocent people will die for it. Freedom is not free. It comes at a high cost.
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Jan 29, 2006
 
We have the same problem in America. A muslim organization is constantly having law suits against Americans for nothing more than freedom of speech. They aren't winning. Last law suit they had was thrown out of court. Islam isn't peace. Islam is violence. Let them threaten us in America, we'll fight back. I read a threat here from a muslim. He said, Islam has to answer back. Answer back means violence. Watch them play with words. Protect your freedom because they want to take it away. I know you'll win this. Stand up and don't give them one inch. Best wishes to Denmark. God Speed!
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Jan 29, 2006
 
this is why I left islam. they will do and say anything possible to hurt you. mohammed said they can lie under 3 conditions, to his wife, to settle an arguement and to protect islam. if islam was so good, mohammaed would not have said you can lie. i am considered an apostate. they will kill me if they catch me. i have to hide from them because it is against islam for me to leave. mohammad is the first islamic terrorist and all muslims follow him. with all the other prophets that had shown a good example, they choose mohammad to follow. think about that. yes mohammad married a 6 year old jewish girl and at 9 he slept with her. she was still playing with dolls. there are millions of apostates of islam but most keep quiet because they will kill us. it is a bad way to live.
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Jan 29, 2006
 
DDRE wrote:
yes assholes show your true racisit full of hatred faces, all this is a play just to make muslims upset and then you bastards label them as terrorest and anti-freedom and attacking your fucking way of life, NO BODY GIVE A SHIT ABOUT HOW YOU LIVE YOUR LIFE its yours not anybody's else.

so dont mix up terms and twist facts, this is an American game to achieve thier plans.

Pathetically Denmark is trying to Humiliate the Muslim population and label them with names and then kick them out. very democratic huh?!!! you peices of shit.

Citizens are Citizens whether muslims or satanic, learn this you arrogant ignorant racist pathetic whities.
once agian you do not know the storry behind the cartoons. you sound like you listneed to th Danish iMans that came down to the arabic countries and told lies that we in Denmark are very shocked to hear about.

I don't know shit, this is not about racism as you think it is. It is not it is about self-censorship in europe because of some muslims fell offended. that is why the cartoons were made.

the question are more why the Arabic world first noew react, some say that in Saudi Arabia they want to change the subject why so many people died in Mecca a few week ago. Apperently the securety sucked a lot, it unprofessional I have heard. I would suggest you to work on your own problem instead of crtisizing something you don't shit about.
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Jan 29, 2006
 
Denmark is a friend for the arabs, and the danish people are our friends, we are the arabs, we need to make friends nowadays and not to make enemies. If a cartoonist did a mistake in a paper, that does not mean that we will fight each other, these things could happen everywhere in this world. We need to modernize our self.
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Jan 29, 2006
 
Mohammed your quote "We should modernize" Does that mean you will allow Churches and Synagoges into Saudi Arabia and Mecca? How about a Buddhist Temple? How about Atheists? How about not having slaves? Should you be the first to help with Pakistan's earth quake victims? Will you stop your support for Iran, Palestine and Syria? Will you stop supporting Mosques in the USA, UK, Germany, France, The Netherlands, Belguim and other western countries with radical material? Will you send money to help Israel to help stop terrorism? Will you lower your oil prices? Will you give the USA a discount on Oil since it's there technology, equipment and man power that gets the oil out of the ground? Will you allow women to drive in your country? Will you allow a woman that gets sick to go to a hospital without a mans permission? Will you allow women to work with out permission? Will you allow women to travel without the permission of a man and go where she wants without a male escort? Will you allow women to wear jeans and a fancy top without putting a burka over it? Can she go barefoot in the hot summer? Can she wear a bathing suit while she swims? You get my point, don't you? Stop looking at women as whores just because they don't cover up their body and head.
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Jan 29, 2006
 
abu former muslim wrote:
Mohammed your quote "We should modernize" Does that mean you will allow Churches and Synagoges into Saudi Arabia and Mecca? How about a Buddhist Temple? How about Atheists? How about not having slaves? Should you be the first to help with Pakistan's earth quake victims? Will you stop your support for Iran, Palestine and Syria? Will you stop supporting Mosques in the USA, UK, Germany, France, The Netherlands, Belguim and other western countries with radical material? Will you send money to help Israel to help stop terrorism? Will you lower your oil prices? Will you give the USA a discount on Oil since it's there technology, equipment and man power that gets the oil out of the ground? Will you allow women to drive in your country? Will you allow a woman that gets sick to go to a hospital without a mans permission? Will you allow women to work with out permission? Will you allow women to travel without the permission of a man and go where she wants without a male escort? Will you allow women to wear jeans and a fancy top without putting a burka over it? Can she go barefoot in the hot summer? Can she wear a bathing suit while she swims? You get my point, don't you? Stop looking at women as whores just because they don't cover up their body and head.
and muslims in Denmark are complaining about that they cannot have a real mosk building but in Saudi arabia you dont have other religions, fuck man and they are complaining.

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