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Jan
Oxnard, CA
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-Reason #1: Islam cannot be from God because the prophet of Islam, Muhammad, did not pass God's first test for a prophet. Deuteronomy 18:21-22 tells us that God will authenticate those He sends as a prophet by having them perform signs. Muhammad gave no sign as required by God. -Reason #2: Islam cannot be from God because Muhammad's teaching does not pass the second test God gave for a prophet. Deuteronomy 13:1-4 tells us that no prophet will bring a revelation that is in conflict with previous revelation. His revelation must agree with the previous revelation of God. Deuteronomy 13:1-4 -Reason #3: Islam cannot be from God because it denies the Godhood of Jesus. In the Qur’an, Muhammad takes great pains to deny the deity of Jesus. It demeans Jesus and makes him just a man. In Philippians, Paul asserts that Jesus existed in the form of God. -Reason #4: Islam cannot be from God because Muhammad frequently changed his revelations to suit circumstances. The classic example is Muhammad’s teaching on drinking. When he was just beginning to teach, before Muhammad gained a significant following he said that it was alright to drink. -Reason #5: Islam cannot be from God because its appeal is to man's lower nature rather than his higher nature. Compare the Biblical appeal of heaven to the Quranic appeal of heaven. -Reason #6: Islam cannot be from God because its morality is inferior to the morality taught by the New Testament. In examining the contradictions between the Bible and the Qur’an, we encountered Jesus’ teaching that we were to love and pray for our enemies while the Qur’an says to fight and kill your enemies. There is a tremendous gap in the standard of morality between the two standards. Which is more likely to be from God, the high standard of morality, or the low standard of morality? -Reason #7: Islam cannot be from God because it is based upon a document, the Qur'an, made after God said revelation was finished. -Reason #8: Islam cannot be from God because it is based upon the Qur'an which has internal contradictions. Any revelation from God will be consistent within itself. It will not contain internal contradictions. Since the Qur’an does contain internal contradictions, it cannot be from God, and any religion that is based upon it is not from God. -Reason #9: Islam cannot be from God because the Qur'an frequently contradicts the Bible. -Reason #10: Islam cannot be from God because it denies the crucifixion of Jesus.
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Hardhead
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Here is your link. http://www.bible.ca/islam/islam-10-reasons-is... Jan wrote: -Reason #1: Islam cannot be from God because the prophet of Islam, Muhammad, did not pass God's first test for a prophet. Deuteronomy 18:21-22 tells us that God will authenticate those He sends as a prophet by having them perform signs. Muhammad gave no sign as required by God. -Reason #2: Islam cannot be from God because Muhammad's teaching does not pass the second test God gave for a prophet. Deuteronomy 13:1-4 tells us that no prophet will bring a revelation that is in conflict with previous revelation. His revelation must agree with the previous revelation of God. Deuteronomy 13:1-4 -Reason #3: Islam cannot be from God because it denies the Godhood of Jesus. In the Qur’an, Muhammad takes great pains to deny the deity of Jesus. It demeans Jesus and makes him just a man. In Philippians, Paul asserts that Jesus existed in the form of God. -Reason #4: Islam cannot be from God because Muhammad frequently changed his revelations to suit circumstances. The classic example is Muhammad’s teaching on drinking. When he was just beginning to teach, before Muhammad gained a significant following he said that it was alright to drink. -Reason #5: Islam cannot be from God because its appeal is to man's lower nature rather than his higher nature. Compare the Biblical appeal of heaven to the Quranic appeal of heaven. -Reason #6: Islam cannot be from God because its morality is inferior to the morality taught by the New Testament. In examining the contradictions between the Bible and the Qur’an, we encountered Jesus’ teaching that we were to love and pray for our enemies while the Qur’an says to fight and kill your enemies. There is a tremendous gap in the standard of morality between the two standards. Which is more likely to be from God, the high standard of morality, or the low standard of morality? -Reason #7: Islam cannot be from God because it is based upon a document, the Qur'an, made after God said revelation was finished. -Reason #8: Islam cannot be from God because it is based upon the Qur'an which has internal contradictions. Any revelation from God will be consistent within itself. It will not contain internal contradictions. Since the Qur’an does contain internal contradictions, it cannot be from God, and any religion that is based upon it is not from God. -Reason #9: Islam cannot be from God because the Qur'an frequently contradicts the Bible. -Reason #10: Islam cannot be from God because it denies the crucifixion of Jesus.
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Huda
Saham, Oman
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Hardhead wrote: excellent site , it refutes his lies or his copies .. jazka allah Al-janah ..
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Jan
Oxnard, CA
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Good to see you guys actually read the sites, Hardhead posted the link to the same things posted. He was trying to say don't take the time to post them here, this is the link direct. Huda wrote: <quoted text> excellent site , it refutes his lies or his copies .. jazka allah Al-janah ..
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Huda
Muscat, Oman
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Jan wrote: Good to see you guys actually read the sites, Hardhead posted the link to the same things posted. He was trying to say don't take the time to post them here, this is the link direct. <quoted text> Stop that jan ,, don't tell things never happen except in your own mind ..
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Jan
Oxnard, CA
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Again, please click the link and figure out what your responding to first. No wonder you guys think Muhamamd is a prophet, you fail to do your homework. Huda wrote: <quoted text> Stop that jan ,, don't tell things never happen except in your own mind ..
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Grace
UK
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The BIBLE'S WARNING ABOUT 'ISLAM LIKE RELIGIONS' False Prophets Would Rise Up and Deceive Many ...
Bible prophecy warns of things that would happen in the future. The Bible warns false Prophets would rise deceiving and leading many away from Christ. The followers of Islam (Islamics, Moslems, and Muslims) follow a Prophet named Mohammed who did rise many years after these prophecies were written.
The Bible even goes on to warn against "Religions" based on "revelations" brought by "angels" that add or teach "other ways" to heaven than simply believing in the only One who died for all of our sins on the Cross and was raised from the dead (to prove there is life in Heaven ... and Hell)
It is interesting the 'prophet' Mohammed started his religion "Islam" (Moslems) and the 'prophet' Joseph Smith started his "Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints" (Mormons) on "revelations" they claimed they received from angels! It is also interesting they both teach a different Gospel (way to Heaven) than the Bible teaches. Mohammed received his revelation from an angel (he called Gabriel) about 600 years after this prophetic warning was written, and Joseph Smith received his revelation from an angel (he called Maroni) about 1,800 years after this clear prophetic warning was written ... in many ways Mohammed and Joseph Smith are very similar ... they both claim the angels gave them new revelations because the Jews and the Christians have changed the Bible (yet they never show us what passages they claim have been changed)... and yet their new books add nothing new ... they just attack the the fact that Jesus is who He (and the Bible) says He is ... and both revert back to the old form of 'religion' which convinces people the way into Heaven can somehow be 'earned' through good works or deeds (or killing Jews and Christians)... so, none of their followers (or followers of any religion who tries to convince us we can 'balance the scales' of judgment in our favor through 'good works, deeds, or money') will ever have the secure promise and hope of Heaven given to all who simply trust in Jesus Christ to save them ...
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Jan
Oxnard, CA
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Read this verse carefully, this is warning about the Muslims whom will hate the Jews, called a prayer for Israel.
Psalm 83 1Keep not thou silence, O God: hold not thy peace, and be not still, O God.
2For, lo, thine enemies make a tumult: and they that hate thee have lifted up the head. 3They have taken crafty counsel against thy people, and consulted against thy hidden ones.
4They have said, Come, and let us cut them off from being a nation; that the name of Israel may be no more in remembrance.
5For they have consulted together with one consent: they are confederate against thee:
6The tabernacles of Edom, and the Ishmaelites; of Moab, and the Hagarenes;
7Gebal, and Ammon, and Amalek; the Philistines with the inhabitants of Tyre;
8Assur also is joined with them: they have holpen the children of Lot. Selah.
9Do unto them as unto the Midianites; as to Sisera, as to Jabin, at the brook of Kison:
10Which perished at Endor: they became as dung for the earth.
11Make their nobles like Oreb, and like Zeeb: yea, all their princes as Zebah, and as Zalmunna:
12Who said, Let us take to ourselves the houses of God in possession.
13O my God, make them like a wheel; as the stubble before the wind.
14As the fire burneth a wood, and as the flame setteth the mountains on fire;
15So persecute them with thy tempest, and make them afraid with thy storm.
16Fill their faces with shame; that they may seek thy name, O LORD.
17Let them be confounded and troubled for ever; yea, let them be put to shame, and perish:
18That men may know that thou, whose name alone is JEHOVAH, art the most high over all the earth.
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Jan
Oxnard, CA
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Matt 24:11 and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people.
John 16:2 in fact, a time is coming when anyone who kills you will think he is offering a service to God. They will do such things because they have not known the Father or me. (*only one religion kills in the name of their god.)
And no wonder, since Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light." (II Corinthians 11:14) (*Falled angel Satan fools Muhammad says he is Gabriel)
Galatian 1:8: But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let him be eternally condemned.
Mat 7:15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
2 Pet 2:1 [NIV] But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them--bringing swift destruction on themselves. 2 Pet 2:2 [NIV] Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute. Mark 13:22 For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall show signs and wonders, to seduce, if it were possible, even the elect
1 Cor 14:37 If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord.
Deu 18:20 But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die.
Isa 30:9 That this is a rebellious people, lying children, children that will not hear the law of the LORD.
Jer 14:14 Then the LORD said unto me, The prophets prophesy lies in my name: I sent them not, neither have I commanded them, neither spake unto them: they prophesy unto you a false vision and divination, and a thing of nought, and the deceit of their heart.
Deu 13:5 That prophet or dreamer must be put to death, because he preached rebellion against the LORD your God, who brought you out of Egypt and redeemed you from the land of slavery; he has tried to turn you from the way the LORD your God commanded you to follow. You must purge the evil from among you
Isa 30:12 Wherefore thus saith the Holy One of Israel, Because ye despise this word, and trust in oppression and perverseness, and stay thereon:
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Hardhead
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There are more then 10 reasons that Jesus never ever be God,but a servant of God Almighty.
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Jan
Oxnard, CA
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You have to then deny the verses in the Bible, again artifacts from 90AD confirm the verses of 90Ad are in fact the same as the Verses in Bibles today. Kind of make you think of Muhammad corruption claim and all. Hardhead wrote: There are more then 10 reasons that Jesus never ever be God,but a servant of God Almighty.
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Hardhead
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There are more then 10 reasons that Jesus never ever be God,but a servant of God Almighty.
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Jan
Oxnard, CA
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Go for it share with us. Even Muhamamd admitted Jesus did things amazing like heal people. That is something above prophets. Historians outside of Christianity confirmed these events during Jesus time. You have to deny the artifacts, gospel and historians to come to your (Islamic) conclusion. Hardhead wrote: There are more then 10 reasons that Jesus never ever be God,but a servant of God Almighty.
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Hardhead
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It's true Jesus (saw) did all these maricles by God's leave.
5.110. Then will Allah say: "O Jesus the son of Mary! Recount My favour to thee and to thy mother. Behold! I strengthened thee with the holy spirit, so that thou didst speak to the people in childhood and in maturity. Behold! I taught thee the Book and Wisdom, the Law and the Gospel and behold! thou makest out of clay, as it were, the figure of a bird, by My leave, and thou breathest into it and it becometh a bird by My leave, and thou healest those born blind, and the lepers, by My leave. And behold! thou bringest forth the dead by My leave. And behold! I did restrain the Children of Israel from (violence to) thee when thou didst show them the clear Signs, and the unbelievers among them said:'This is nothing but evident magic.'
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YSL
UK
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You shall judge them by their fruits and islam has been bringing pain, darkness and persecution wherever it goes.
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Hardhead
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What you say is very true,look at the tree of christianity and judge for yourself,untless you're very biased in your judgment and understanding how tasty is the fruit. resembled in Crusades in the far past and in Iraq and Afghanistand taday. That's very bitter undigestable filthy fruit. Cu next post! YSL wrote: You shall judge them by their fruits and islam has been bringing pain, darkness and persecution wherever it goes.
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Hardhead
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I will cite one example of bible corruption and I think one example is more than eough,and that's, worshipping Jesus (pbuh) as son of God.Let give you an other one as gift and that's trinity. Let me be more generious and give an other one,the killing of Jesus himself as God lamb to eredicate your sins(original sin) not in the bible. You keep mentioning,( Grace wrote: The BIBLE'S WARNING ABOUT 'ISLAM LIKE RELIGIONS' False Prophets Would Rise Up and Deceive Many ... Bible prophecy warns of things that would happen in the future. The Bible warns false Prophets would rise deceiving and leading many away from Christ. The followers of Islam (Islamics, Moslems, and Muslims) follow a Prophet named Mohammed who did rise many years after these prophecies were written. The Bible even goes on to warn against "Religions" based on "revelations" brought by "angels" that add or teach "other ways" to heaven than simply believing in the only One who died for all of our sins on the Cross and was raised from the dead (to prove there is life in Heaven ... and Hell) It is interesting the 'prophet' Mohammed started his religion "Islam" (Moslems) and the 'prophet' Joseph Smith started his "Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints" (Mormons) on "revelations" they claimed they received from angels! It is also interesting they both teach a different Gospel (way to Heaven) than the Bible teaches. Mohammed received his revelation from an angel (he called Gabriel) about 600 years after this prophetic warning was written, and Joseph Smith received his revelation from an angel (he called Maroni) about 1,800 years after this clear prophetic warning was written ... in many ways Mohammed and Joseph Smith are very similar ... they both claim the angels gave them new revelations because the Jews and the Christians have changed the Bible (yet they never show us what passages they claim have been changed)... and yet their new books add nothing new ... they just attack the the fact that Jesus is who He (and the Bible) says He is ... and both revert back to the old form of 'religion' which convinces people the way into Heaven can somehow be 'earned' through good works or deeds (or killing Jews and Christians)... so, none of their followers (or followers of any religion who tries to convince us we can 'balance the scales' of judgment in our favor through 'good works, deeds, or money') will ever have the secure promise and hope of Heaven given to all who simply trust in Jesus Christ to save them ...
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Jan
Oxnard, CA
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Matthew 15 warns of the false prophet that will speak peace, although we will know them by their fruits.(Islam: self proclaimed religion of peace)(terror acts every week from Islamic radicals) Crusades a response to Muslims aggression. War is not of Christ he never fought in wars solved all problems with peace. Muhamamd fought in 26 battles. Any Questions? Tell me Hardhead one person name Jesus killed and one war or battle Jesus fought in? Now let's ask the same questions of Muhamamd. Hardhead wrote: What you say is very true,look at the tree of christianity and judge for yourself,untless you're very biased in your judgment and understanding how tasty is the fruit. resembled in Crusades in the far past and in Iraq and Afghanistand taday. That's very bitter undigestable filthy fruit. Cu next post! <quoted text>
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Hardhead
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Yeshua came with no Law but Moses. He had no power to kill,but said bring those who rejected me to rule over them and kill them in front of me,then said my Kingdom is not on earth > powerless/weak to excute any laws,then as you claimed was killed as a lamb. Jan wrote: Matthew 15 warns of the false prophet that will speak peace, although we will know them by their fruits.(Islam: self proclaimed religion of peace)(terror acts every week from Islamic radicals) Crusades a response to Muslims aggression. War is not of Christ he never fought in wars solved all problems with peace. Muhamamd fought in 26 battles. Any Questions? Tell me Hardhead one person name Jesus killed and one war or battle Jesus fought in? Now let's ask the same questions of Muhamamd. <quoted text>
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Jan
Oxnard, CA
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Yea, we saw you post that verse the first 100 times. Again Jesus never killed anyone, and Muhamamd did! Reality is Muhamamd fought in 26 wars, more than most considered warlords. Hardhead wrote: Yeshua came with no Law but Moses. He had no power to kill,but said bring those who rejected me to rule over them and kill them in front of me,then said my Kingdom is not on earth > powerless/weak to excute any laws,then as you claimed was killed as a lamb. <quoted text>
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