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Jan
Temecula, CA
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It does make one question the authenticity of the story, even you a Muslims dont know if it is a made up story from another Muslim or a true story. If this ex-Christian has a name, why not disclose it, Christians don't kill apostates like Muslims do. Ex-Muslims have the fear of death and typically disclose their names, maybe changes to a Biblical name, but indeed their new name is told.. Hardhead wrote: Mentioning his name or not, doesn't change his feeling that Islam is the true religion.. if mentioning his/her name will make you at ease with yourself,then no problem.but I will continue posting ex-christians with no name. If you believe what I post it's fine otherwise ignore it. I don't post lies,period. <quoted text>
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Hardhead
Sayhat, Saudi Arabia
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Mentioning his name or not, doesn't change his feeling that Islam is the true religion.. if mentioning his/her name will make you at ease with yourself,then no problem.but I will continue posting ex-christians with no name. If you believe what I post it's fine otherwise ignore it. I don't post lies,period. Keep going around to avoid answering the question..
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Hardhead
Sayhat, Saudi Arabia
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Written by an ex-Christian
He fulfilled his mission not through any wordly lure, oppression or tyranny, but by his captivating manners, his endearing moral personality and his convincing teaching. With his noble and gentle behaviour he befriended even his enemies. He won the hearts of the people with his love.
When he began preaching, the ignorant nation turned against him. Abuses and stones were showered at his august person. Every conceivable torture and cruelty was perpetrated on him. This continued not for a day or two but uninterruptedly for thirteen long troublesome years. At last he is exiled. But he is not given respite even there. He is tormented in various ways in his abode of refuge. The whole of Arabia is incited against him. He is persecuted and hounded down continuously for full eight years there. He suffered it all, but he did not budge an inch from the stand he had taken. He was resolute, firm and inflexible in his purpose and stand. His nation offered to accept him as its king and to lay all the riches of the land at his feet if only he would leave preaching his religion and spreading his message. But he chose to refuse the tempting offers and to suffer for his cause, instead. Why? Why was it that he cared not a jot for riches and luxury, kingship and glory and ease and plenty? One has to ponder over it deeply to find an answer.
Can any one imagine a higher example of self sacrifice, fellow-feeling and kind heartedness towards his fellow beings than that a man ruin his own happiness for the good of others, while those very people for whose betterment he is striving his utmost should stone him, abuse him, banish him and give him no quarter even in his exile, and that inspite of it all, he should refuse to abstain from striving for their well-being?
Can any sincere person undergo so much suffering for a false cause? Can any dishonest speculator and visionary exhibit such firmness and determination for his ideal as to stick to his guns to the very last and remain unruffled and unperturbed in the face of dangers and tortures of every conceivable description when a whole country rises up in arms against him?
This faith, this perseverance and this resolution with which he led his movement to ultimate success is, therefore, an eloquent proof of the supreme truth of his cause. Had there been the slightest touch of doubt and uncertainty in his heart, he could never have been able to brave the storm which continued in all its fury for twenty one long years. What more proof of perfect honesty of purpose, uprightness of character and sublimity of soul can there be? Who else can be a more truthful person than he who received such unique gifts and embellishment through a secret channel and still he outrightly pointed out the source of all his enlightenment and inspiration?
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Jan
Temecula, CA
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Have you ever listened to the ex-Muslims whom are now Christian? If corruption is unproven by artifacts then according to Muhamamd Christianity is the true religion. Hardhead wrote: Mentioning his name or not, doesn't change his feeling that Islam is the true religion.. if mentioning his/her name will make you at ease with yourself,then no problem.but I will continue posting ex-christians with no name. If you believe what I post it's fine otherwise ignore it. I don't post lies,period. Keep going around to avoid answering the question..
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Hardhead
Sayhat, Saudi Arabia
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Mentioning his name or not, doesn't change his feeling that Islam is the true religion.. if mentioning his/her name will make you at ease with yourself,then no problem.but I will continue posting ex-christians with no name. If you believe what I post it's fine otherwise ignore it. I don't post lies,period. Keep going around to avoid answering the question..
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Muhammad Al Quds
Gizeh, Egypt
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The Prophet Mohammad was a pedophile, rapist, brigand, thief and common criminal who believed his hallucinations when he had his epileptic fits.
He was such a vicious and violent murderer that he killed anyone who made him mad. A total psychokiller madman and psychotic.
Too bad about how he raped that poor little girl from the time she was six or nine or so.
Anyway, besides that, Allah has died and gone straight to hell where Satan bones his backside really good.
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Hardhead
Sayhat, Saudi Arabia
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Coptic Christian, Brother, are you aware of the coptic monk who raped 5,000 women inside the church??? I can give all details,if you want. Maria the Coptic is my Mother and the Wife of our beloved Prophet Muhammad(saw),and she is the Mother of Ibraheem,the Son of the Prophet(saw). I've more to say if you like to hear. Muhammad Al Quds wrote: The Prophet Mohammad was a pedophile, rapist, brigand, thief and common criminal who believed his hallucinations when he had his epileptic fits. He was such a vicious and violent murderer that he killed anyone who made him mad. A total psychokiller madman and psychotic. Too bad about how he raped that poor little girl from the time she was six or nine or so. Anyway, besides that, Allah has died and gone straight to hell where Satan bones his backside really good.
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Jan
Temecula, CA
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If you story in in fact true, very sad, although this monk was not a prophet of the religion, but a human sinner. He will pay the price from those crimes on Judgment day, now Muhamamd claimed to be a prophet and is held to a much higher regard. Why do you compare the crimes of your prophet to a regular human sinner? Hardhead wrote: Coptic Christian, Brother, are you aware of the coptic monk who raped 5,000 women inside the church??? <quoted text>
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Jan
Temecula, CA
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Send a source to that, 5000!!! Number seems awful high, most Coptic Churches don't even have than many woman members. Is this more Muslims propaganda, again no name of the Monk, the location of Church anything. Please source with a link. Hardhead wrote: Coptic Christian, Brother, are you aware of the coptic monk who raped 5,000 women inside the church??? <quoted text>
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Hardhead
Sayhat, Saudi Arabia
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Even the stupid person can find out any information if he wants. I've already said,I don't post lies. I'm sure the Coptic Christian knew whom I'm talking about it was a big scandal in that Church.. Jan wrote: Send a source to that, 5000!!! Number seems awful high, most Coptic Churches don't even have than many woman members. Is this more Muslims propaganda, again no name of the Monk, the location of Church anything. Please source with a link. <quoted text>
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Jan
Temecula, CA
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OK, seems you don't have a credible link, it is easier to post it than ridicule me for a logical question. I'll assume your story is a hoax until you prove otherwise. Hardhead wrote: Even the stupid person can find out any information if he wants. I've already said,I don't post lies. I'm sure the Coptic Christian knew whom I'm talking about it was a big scandal in that Church.. <quoted text>
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Hardhead
Al Khobar, Saudi Arabia
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It's your right to take as I write it. Jan wrote: OK, seems you don't have a credible link, it is easier to post it than ridicule me for a logical question. I'll assume your story is a hoax until you prove otherwise. <quoted text>
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Jan
Temecula, CA
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Correct, the claim in itself is questionable, 5000 woman knowing most Churches can hold maybe 500 maybe 1000 on a very large Church members at a time. Your claim is out there, must have been a very busy guy 5000 and all. Look at the logic there are 365 days in a year, multiply by 10, that is 3650 days. If this guy rapes 5000 people as you claim he had to rape one woman every day for 13.6 years. We have to believe nobody said anything for those 13 years, and no warning to other woman's of this very,very large congregation about this rapist, none of their husband knew, come on! The story is so absurd it is laughable. Use a more realistic number next time, at least try to make the propaganda lies seem believable if you want us to be fooled. When I saw the 5000 number you posted all I could do is shake my head. Like when Muhamamd said Gabriel had 900 wings, LOL, you guys should become comedians! Hardhead wrote: It's your right to take as I write it. <quoted text>
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Hardhead
Al Khobar, Saudi Arabia
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I know you envey him for that number. I know you can't compete with this Monk's actions. May be he could handle 3 per day,so what's your problem, if he can handle 4 per day is there any problem. do you feel jealous of him?? Jan wrote: Correct, the claim in itself is questionable, 5000 woman knowing most Churches can hold maybe 500 maybe 1000 on a very large Church members at a time. Your claim is out there, must have been a very busy guy 5000 and all. Look at the logic there are 365 days in a year, multiply by 10, that is 3650 days. If this guy rapes 5000 people as you claim he had to rape one woman every day for 13.6 years. We have to believe nobody said anything for those 13 years, and no warning to other woman's of this very,very large congregation about this rapist, none of their husband knew, come on! The story is so absurd it is laughable. Use a more realistic number next time, at least try to make the propaganda lies seem believable if you want us to be fooled. When I saw the 5000 number you posted all I could do is shake my head. Like when Muhamamd said Gabriel had 900 wings, LOL, you guys should become comedians! <quoted text>
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Jan
Temecula, CA
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The number is ridiculous, Muhammad may like to challenge this alleged guy, throw in a few 6 year old Aisha's for him. Hardhead wrote: I know you envey him for that number. I know you can't compete with this Monk's actions. May be he could handle 3 per day,so what's your problem, if he can handle 4 per day is there any problem. do you feel jealous of him?? <quoted text>
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Hardhead
Al Khobar, Saudi Arabia
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This is not a joke? Jan wrote: The number is ridiculous, Muhammad may like to challenge this alleged guy, throw in a few 6 year old Aisha's for him. <quoted text>
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Jan
Temecula, CA
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It probably is an unsubstantiated lie, propagated by Islamic propaganda. Hardhead wrote: This is not a joke? <quoted text>
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Hardhead
Al Khobar, Saudi Arabia
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5000 rapes by one monk is not a joke at all. Jan wrote: It probably is an unsubstantiated lie, propagated by Islamic propaganda. <quoted text>
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Jan
Temecula, CA
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Anyways, next subject. I am not going to debate on a unsubstantiated claim with no merit. What is no joke is making up false stories, lies get us nowhere. Next..... Hardhead wrote: 5000 rapes by one monk is not a joke at all. <quoted text>
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Hardhead
Al Khobar, Saudi Arabia
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Would you believe 5,000 rapes if it was committed by non-christian? Jan wrote: Anyways, next subject. I am not going to debate on a unsubstantiated claim with no merit. What is no joke is making up false stories, lies get us nowhere. Next..... <quoted text>
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