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Jan
Fontana, CA
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You make a great point, the oddest thing was the video Fitna Muslims found so insulting. What Muslims did not realize is Muslims made the film themself, Geert only compiled their videos together, then added some "actual" Qu'ranic verses. The Mulsims are offended and want to kill Geert, why not be upset at the Mulims in the film? They are the ones insulting and using Islam as their tool for violence, all the while quoting Islamic verses that justify their actions. Like you said they are in denial, anger, depression! Northern Gryphon wrote: <quoted text> There is a little bit of Islam-bashing here, but most of what is said is accurate. Islam itself is a very ugly truth and when a mirror is held up to it, the horror reflected is too much to take, and the Muslims, being in denial* believe this is Islam-bashing * Denial is the first stage in the process of grieving for a loss. It goes like this: 1) Denial 2) Anger 3) Bargaining 4) Depression 5) Acceptance The first stages are ways for the deluded ego to protect itself from grief. Most Muslims won't get past stage 1 or 2.
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bro
Sydney, Australia
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lol your all weird, man wats wrong wif u ppl. firstly. for the verses taken from the Quran.... STOP SNIPPING THE VERSES and changing the meaning around. get the full meaning. U ppl always do the same. secondly. you may say radical muslims are doin diss and dat. but look at bloody america in the war. killin off all the muslims in the middle east. while your bashing islam about things that it duznt even preach, who are the real killers. the americans are killin off thousands a day in the middle east for little reason, woman and children. get it through your skulls, illuminati population control. and im not sayin this from a strict muslim view. i mean many wise christains are against all war. infact the quran is very similar to the bible. Muslims believe in the original bible actually. the first one made. do u noe wat the government is doing to u ppl. giving you an interpretation of islam in a bad way. Muslims and Christians shud be together. don't you ppl get it. the same future is predicted in both islam and christianity. the cumin of the anticrist and then the cummin of christ. YES MUSLIMS BELIEVE in the word of christ too. after christ (Jesus) cums down he will kill the dajjal (biblical anticrist) and he will unite the muslims and christians. infact after that there will be two things in the world religion and athiesm. ppl listen to me. iff you are christain, all we Muslims believe is that Islam is an extented form of christianity. the quran was supposed to have the same affect as the bible and has not been changed. thats why very religious christains dont usually refute the Quran. they use it. and wealso sumtimes use the bible. all these theories of islam being the religion of hell is the wrong mentality. infact the prophet Muhammed SAW had many christain freinds. from his wifes cousin, to the king of abbasinia. Jerusellum was united by a muslim and christain king. salahadin and richard the lion heart united jerusellum. Salahadin known for his kind nature, and healing richard from his sickness. richard the lionheart was known for his great strength and ability to devour two cows in one dinner, hence his name the lion heart. do you see wen we were united we lived in a greater peace we learnt of each others great sides of equality, the beauty of islam and christianity. it brings me to tears wen we tease each other wen Islam was meant to be a correction for the current contradictions in the bible. i mean even in our holy scriptures it says we shud be close. because if we remain like this then wen christ cums down to kill the evil we will be confused with our states of mind. not only us muslims are concerned. have you heard of different christain individuals and groups in America. whos heard of bone thugs n harmony or Immortal technique the rappers? they readily say that they are the worlds enemy. the world is run by satan. only we as a spiritual one can fight this. what about tupac. his last albumn before he died. "Don killuminati". KILL ILLUMINATI. he says they, the satan worshipers have seperated us. we were a united nation in Jerusalem. Christians, Jews and Muslims, now becoz of them we loath each other and hate each others ways. 2pac himself, a well devoted christain says they have ruined us to continue a petiful war to kill more inocence in the middle east and kill ppl in america too. spendin ther money on a pointless war and not on the low streets of america or other contries were the poor and harmed dwell. were the african and white americans are being manipulated, robbed and living horrible lives.
FIND THE TRUTH... FIND URSELF
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bro
Sydney, Australia
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Please to the Muslims and christians.... respect each other as we beleive n a very similar thing. the one and only god. Christains believe he cums in different forms but muslims believe he is in only god form. Allah means God, the one true god. the god explained in the Bible and in the Quran is but of the same. Allah is just arabic for God. do not diss Allah for he is your God. why do you think christain arabs say Inshaallah (God is willing). the only difference in islam and christianity is (dont laugh at how small it is). the interpretation of son by both sides. christains believe son as in "Jesus the son of God", and Muslims believe it as "Jesus the faithfull worshipper of God" do you see the similarity.
as our forefathers new and as the great Briton and Saracen kings new. we are very much alike, do not refute each other.... becoz eventually youll find that u are refuting your own religion.
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“Dullards & Cretins "en garde"”
Since: Oct 07
The Blue Ridge
ISP:
Asheville, NC
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bro wrote: FIND THE TRUTH... FIND URSELF "but look at bloody america in the war. killin off all the muslims in the middle east. while your bashing islam about things that it duznt even preach, who are the real killers. the americans are killin off thousands a day in the middle east for little reason, woman and children".et. Let me see if I gt this straight. You are complaining about US soldiers killing rabid muslim dogs who hide behind woman and children. Well, if you could convince those worthless POS to fight like men, instead of hiding behind woman's skirts, then a lot less of your innocents would get killed. Plus, apparently, you are blond ( a reference to stupid) to the fact that the vast majority of innocents in Iraq and Afgan are being killed by muslims. And they were being murdered by the thousands long before we got there and kicked your asses.
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Hardhead
Sayhat, Saudi Arabia
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killing in the Bible; in Numbers 31:40 where the ancient Jews (allegedly) killed the men, women, and little boys, but saved the virgins "for yourselves," but not before they allocated the fauna that they stole from the people they killed and set aside a percentage to be sacrificed for "the Lord's tribute." And since Moses kept 16,000 "persons ... the Lord's tribute was thirty and two persons." Moses here commits ritual sacrifice of virgin women. Is this modern Judaism? modern Christianity? ZigmunnDroid wrote: <quoted text> "but look at bloody america in the war. killin off all the muslims in the middle east. while your bashing islam about things that it duznt even preach, who are the real killers. the americans are killin off thousands a day in the middle east for little reason, woman and children".et. Let me see if I gt this straight. You are complaining about US soldiers killing rabid muslim dogs who hide behind woman and children. Well, if you could convince those worthless POS to fight like men, instead of hiding behind woman's skirts, then a lot less of your innocents would get killed. Plus, apparently, you are blond ( a reference to stupid) to the fact that the vast majority of innocents in Iraq and Afgan are being killed by muslims. And they were being murdered by the thousands long before we got there and kicked your asses.
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“Dullards & Cretins "en garde"”
Since: Oct 07
The Blue Ridge
ISP:
Asheville, NC
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Hardhead wrote: killing in the Bible; in Numbers 31:40 where the ancient Jews (allegedly) killed the men, women, and little boys, but saved the virgins "for yourselves," but not before they allocated the fauna that they stole from the people they killed and set aside a percentage to be sacrificed for "the Lord's tribute." And since Moses kept 16,000 "persons ... the Lord's tribute was thirty and two persons." Moses here commits ritual sacrifice of virgin women. Is this modern Judaism? modern Christianity? <quoted text> It seems to me that most organized religions are very good at promoting death and destruction for the promise of great rewards. What a scam. And you never get your payoff until you are dead. It is amazing how many gullible fools are out there.
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Hardhead
Sayhat, Saudi Arabia
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Looking a speck in others' eyes forgetting the beam in your eyes. always pointing fingers at others,that's natural human kind. ZigmunnDroid wrote: <quoted text> It seems to me that most organized religions are very good at promoting death and destruction for the promise of great rewards. What a scam. And you never get your payoff until you are dead. It is amazing how many gullible fools are out there.
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Jan
Temecula, CA
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Pointing fingers is better than impaling swords through peoples necks. Hardhead wrote: Looking a speck in others' eyes forgetting the beam in your eyes. always pointing fingers at others,that's natural human kind. <quoted text>
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Hardhead
Al Khobar, Saudi Arabia
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killing in the Bible;
in Numbers 31:40 where the ancient Jews (allegedly) killed the men, women, and little boys, but saved the virgins "for yourselves," but not before they allocated the fauna that they stole from the people they killed and set aside a percentage to be sacrificed for "the Lord's tribute."
And since Moses kept 16,000 "persons ... the Lord's tribute was thirty and two persons."
Moses here commits ritual sacrifice of virgin women.
Is this modern Judaism? modern Christianity?
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“Dullards & Cretins "en garde"”
Since: Oct 07
The Blue Ridge
ISP:
Asheville, NC
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Hardhead wrote: killing in the Bible; in Numbers 31:40 where the ancient Jews (allegedly) killed the men, women, and little boys, but saved the virgins "for yourselves," but not before they allocated the fauna that they stole from the people they killed and set aside a percentage to be sacrificed for "the Lord's tribute." And since Moses kept 16,000 "persons ... the Lord's tribute was thirty and two persons." Moses here commits ritual sacrifice of virgin women. Is this modern Judaism? modern Christianity? Yeah, but what has he done lately. Hmmm. Let us see, Muslims have been slaughtering people for many hundreds of years, and they have yet to slow down. Are you insane people trying to catch up to the Christians??? Hmmm, hmmmm. Christians stopped slaughtering a couple of hundred years ago. Who's evolved, my little bloodthirsty friend. Who's evolved??? How many infidels have you killed lately? Have you stopped beating your wives yet? Have you stopped molesting your children yet?? Or do you just blow them up for Allah?
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Hardhead
Al Khobar, Saudi Arabia
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ZigmunnDroid wrote,
It seems to me that most organized religions are very good at promoting death and destruction for the promise of great rewards.
What a scam. And you never get your payoff until you are dead.
It is amazing how many gullible fools are out there.
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“Dullards & Cretins "en garde"”
Since: Oct 07
The Blue Ridge
ISP:
Asheville, NC
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Hardhead wrote: ZigmunnDroid wrote, It seems to me that most organized religions are very good at promoting death and destruction for the promise of great rewards. What a scam. And you never get your payoff until you are dead. It is amazing how many gullible fools are out there. Wow. You have figured out how to cut and paste. Better not tell your muslim masters. They don't like their slaves getting uppity. Allah and Muhammad don't like it either.
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Jan
Temecula, CA
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That is why Jesus cam for us to be forgive of your sins, if we only followed by his example there would be true peace. Hardhead wrote: ZigmunnDroid wrote, It seems to me that most organized religions are very good at promoting death and destruction for the promise of great rewards. What a scam. And you never get your payoff until you are dead. It is amazing how many gullible fools are out there.
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Hardhead
Al Khobar, Saudi Arabia
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Jesus is a Jewish and came to the House of Israel,not for every nation and not for every time. He is not for me.mine is Allah and Muhammad His Messenger and Islam His religion for all nations and for all times. Jan wrote: That is why Jesus cam for us to be forgive of your sins, if we only followed by his example there would be true peace. <quoted text>
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Jan
Temecula, CA
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Funny you say that about a week ago you posted Jesus was Muslim, today it Jewish, OK! Hardhead wrote: Jesus is a Jewish and came to the House of Israel,not for every nation and not for every time. He is not for me.mine is Allah and Muhammad His Messenger and Islam His religion for all nations and for all times. <quoted text>
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Hardhead
Al Khobar, Saudi Arabia
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Reread what I've posted, Jesus is a Jewish and came to the House of Israel,not for every nation and not for every time. He is not for me.mine is Allah and Muhammad His Messenger and Islam His religion for all nations and for all times. ---------- Your poor soul still looking for aguidence to the right path of Allah. I know if you read you don't understand what you read, programmed by your supperiors, you do what they wanted you to do. Jan wrote: Funny you say that about a week ago you posted Jesus was Muslim, today it Jewish, OK! <quoted text>
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Hardhead
Al Khobar, Saudi Arabia
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"White evangelical Protestants were the religious group most likely to say torture is often or sometimes justified - more than six in 10 supported it. People unaffiliated with any religious organization were least likely to back it. Only four in 10 of them did." ========== Protestants say torture is often or sometimes justified. torture is justified!
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Hardhead
Al Khobar, Saudi Arabia
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This is certainly not the first scandal where US military forces or officials have been caught on tape promoting an evangelical Christian agenda. Perhaps the most high-profile case involved Lieut. Gen. William Boykin, who was a Deputy Undersecretary of Defense for Intelligence under Bush. Boykin was part of Donald Rumsfeld's inner circle at the Pentagon where he was placed in charge of hunting "high-value targets." Boykin was one of the key U.S. officials in establishing what critics alleged was death-squad-type activity in Iraq. In October 2003, Boykin was revealed to have gone on several anti-Muslim rants, in public speeches, many of which he delivered in military uniform. Since January 2002, Boykin had spoken at twenty-three religious-oriented events, wearing his uniform at all but two. Among Boykin's statements, he said he knew the U.S. would prevail over a Muslim adversary in Somalia because "I knew that my God was bigger than his. I knew that my God was a real God and his was an idol." Boykin also charged that Islamic radicals want to destroy America "because we're a Christian nation" that "will never abandon Israel." Our "spiritual enemy," Boykin declared, "will only be defeated if we come against them in the name of Jesus." Jan wrote: Funny you say that about a week ago you posted Jesus was Muslim, today it Jewish, OK! <quoted text>
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Jan
Temecula, CA
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OK, are you saying Jesus is not Muslim? He is Muslims or he is not? That is the question. The answer would be a simple YES or No.. Waiting.......... Hardhead wrote: Reread what I've posted, Jesus is a Jewish and came to the House of Israel,not for every nation and not for every time. He is not for me.mine is Allah and Muhammad His Messenger and Islam His religion for all nations and for all times. <quoted text>
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Hardhead
Al Khobar, Saudi Arabia
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Do you confess that Jesus is a Jewish and came to the House of Israel,not for every nation and not for all times. Jan wrote: OK, are you saying Jesus is not Muslim? He is Muslims or he is not? That is the question. The answer would be a simple YES or No.. Waiting.......... <quoted text>
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