Allah - A Moon God?

by Sheikh Shabir Ally.
From Christian Ph.D. Robert Morey
Quran proves - "Allah" is NOT a 'moon god':
"And from among His Signs are the night and the day, and the sun and the moon. Do not bow down (prostrate) to the sun nor to the moon, but only bow down (prostrate) to "Allah" Who created them, if you (really) worship Him."
[Holy Quran 41:37]
The Christian acquaintance who sent me a copy of Morey's booklet also sent me five questions related to this subject. I will attempt to answer them below:
Question 1:
What is the significance of the crescent moon in Islam?
Answer:
fixed periods of time for mankind and for the pilgrimage."
[Holy Quran 2:189]
The Quran answers this question before you asked it. Read this verse:
"They ask you about the new moons. Say: These are signs to mark
Question 2:
Why does Islam follow a lunar calendar?
Answer:
In both the Bible and the Quran religious festivals are regulated by the lunar calendar. Jews and Muslims have kept to these regulations which they believe to be from God. Why does Christianity follow a solar calendar?
Question 3:
Why is the feast of Ramadan marked by the appearance of the crescent moon?
Answer:
I think you mean the fast of Ramadan. God commanded Muslims in the Quran to fast from dawn to sunset during the month called Ramadan (see Quran 2:185, 187). The beginning and end of the month is determined by the crescent (2:189) based on the instruction of God's Messenger, on whom be peace.
Why this method and not another is not for us to say but for God and His Messenger to prescribe. However, I find it an efficient method. It is a universally applicable method, and it allows for Ramadan to move through all the seasons. This allows believers to have the pleasure of worshipping God by fasting in all the various seasons: one year in the summer, some years later in the winter.

Arabian moon god was actually named al-ilah.

Muhammad was raised in the religion of the Moon-god Allah. But he went one step further than his fellow pagan Arabs. While they believed that Allah, i.e. the Moon-god, was the greatest of all gods and the supreme deity in a pantheon of deities, Muhammad decided that Allah was not only the greatest god but the only god.

Results of hard sciences such as archeology proove their was a moon god al-ilah before the time of Muhamamd.

The symbol of the worship of the moon god in Arabian culture and elsewhere throughout the Middle East was the crescent moon.

Archaeologists have dug up numerous statues and hieroglyphic inscriptions in which a crescent moon was seated on top of the head of the deity to symbolize the worship of the moon god. In the same fashion as the sun is pictured above the Egyptian deity.

While the moon was generally worshiped as a female deity in the Ancient Near East, the Arabs viewed it as a male deity.

Muhammad was sinless. The Quran makes taking more than four wives a sin. Therefore Muhammad could not have taken more than four wives. Why? Because Muhammad was sinless. Sura 4:3 forbids the taking of more than four wives. How many wifes did Muhammad have??

The first 16 women were wives. Numbers 17 and 18 were slaves or concubines.

The last four women were neither wives or slaves but devout Muslim women who "gave" themselves to satisfy Muhammad's sexual desires.

jAn wrote:
Muhammad was sinless. The Quran makes taking more than four wives a sin. Therefore Muhammad could not have taken more than four wives. Why? Because Muhammad was sinless. Sura 4:3 forbids the taking of more than four wives. How many wifes did Muhammad have??

Allah say:

33.50. O Prophet! We have made lawful to thee thy wives to whom thou hast paid their dowers; and those whom thy right hand possesses out of the prisoners of war whom Allah has assigned to thee; and daughters of thy paternal uncles and aunts, and daughters of thy maternal uncles and aunts, who migrated (from Makka) with thee; and any believing woman who dedicates her soul to the Prophet if the Prophet wishes to wed her;- this only for thee, and not for the Believers (at large); We know what We have appointed for them as to their wives and the captives whom their right hands possess;- in order that there should be no difficulty for thee. And Allah is Oft- Forgiving, Most Merciful.

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I don't are really know if you're running Allah's business???? Are you criticizing Allah,All glory to Him, for running his kingdom????

Basically, Muhammad kept changing the rules when it applied to himself.

Hardhead wrote:

jAn wrote:
Muhammad was sinless. The Quran makes taking more than four wives a sin. Therefore Muhammad could not have taken more than four wives. Why? Because Muhammad was sinless. Sura 4:3 forbids the taking of more than four wives. How many wifes did Muhammad have??
Allah say:
33.50. O Prophet! We have made lawful to thee thy wives to whom thou hast paid their dowers; and those whom thy right hand possesses out of the prisoners of war whom Allah has assigned to thee; and daughters of thy paternal uncles and aunts, and daughters of thy maternal uncles and aunts, who migrated (from Makka) with thee; and any believing woman who dedicates her soul to the Prophet if the Prophet wishes to wed her;- this only for thee, and not for the Believers (at large); We know what We have appointed for them as to their wives and the captives whom their right hands possess;- in order that there should be no difficulty for thee. And Allah is Oft- Forgiving, Most Merciful.
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I don't are really know if you're running Allah's business???? Are you criticizing Allah,All glory to Him, for running his kingdom????

Allah's business is to bring as many people as possible to perdition.

by Sheikh Shabir Ally.
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Question 4:
Why does the Quran place the Sabeans on the same level with Jews and Christians when scholars have clearly proven that the Sabeans were involved in the moon cult?
wer:
I am not aware that the Quran has placed the Sabeans on the same level with Jews and
"Those who believe and those who are Jews and Christians and Sabians, whoever believes in "Allah" and the Last Day and do righteous good deeds shall have their reward with their Lord. On them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve."

[Holy Quran 2:62; also 5:69]

This verse, however, does not place the Sabeans on the same level as the Jews and Christians except in a particular context. The verse speaks of four distinct communities, and offers all four the opportunity to fear not nor grieve if only they would believe in "Allah" and the Last Day and do right. The four communities are:

the Believers (i.e., the Muslims)
the Jews
the Christians
the Sabeans

While they are all offered the same opportunity for improvement, nothing, is said in this verse about the validity of the existing faiths of these four communities. Otherwise the Jews and Christians who are criticized in the Quran for their deviations will not be placed on the same level with the believers. The matter becomes clear when you realise that believers here does not mean saved persons but those who ostensibly belong to the community of Muslims. They, as well as the other three groups, must do the following to be saved: believe in "Allah" , believe in the Last Day, and do right. Doing right, according to the Quran, includes following every teaching of Muhammad.

Gry,You're right,
Allah(swt)will send those who disobey Him and rebel against His Laws and associate others with Him, to where sinners will be suffer eternal punishment..

Northern Gryphon wrote:

<quoted text>
Allah's business is to bring as many people as possible to perdition.

Yes, this is what you think is happening, no one can change the rules but Allah and Allah alone. Prophet Mohammad (pbuh)acts by the guidance of His Lord,Allah (swt).

Northern Gryphon wrote:

Basically, Muhammad kept changing the rules when it applied to himself.

With Islamic Allah they don't need eternal punishment, we have it brought to us courtesy of Islam right here to Earth. Did everybody in the world trade center deserve eternal punishment?

Hardhead wrote:

Gry,You're right,
Allah(swt)will send those who disobey Him and rebel against His Laws and associate others with Him, to where sinners will be suffer eternal punishment..
<quoted text>

Jan wrote:

Arabian moon god was actually named al-ilah.
Muhammad was raised in the religion of the Moon-god Allah. But he went one step further than his fellow pagan Arabs. While they believed that Allah, i.e. the Moon-god, was the greatest of all gods and the supreme deity in a pantheon of deities, Muhammad decided that Allah was not only the greatest god but the only god.
Results of hard sciences such as archeology proove their was a moon god al-ilah before the time of Muhamamd.
The symbol of the worship of the moon god in Arabian culture and elsewhere throughout the Middle East was the crescent moon.
Archaeologists have dug up numerous statues and hieroglyphic inscriptions in which a crescent moon was seated on top of the head of the deity to symbolize the worship of the moon god. In the same fashion as the sun is pictured above the Egyptian deity.
While the moon was generally worshiped as a female deity in the Ancient Near East, the Arabs viewed it as a male deity.
Muhammad was sinless. The Quran makes taking more than four wives a sin. Therefore Muhammad could not have taken more than four wives. Why? Because Muhammad was sinless. Sura 4:3 forbids the taking of more than four wives. How many wifes did Muhammad have??
The first 16 women were wives. Numbers 17 and 18 were slaves or concubines.
The last four women were neither wives or slaves but devout Muslim women who "gave" themselves to satisfy Muhammad's sexual desires.

Very interesting Jan.....thanks. I've often wondered why muslims are so fixated with the moon.

by Sheikh Shabir Ally.
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Question 5:
Did the Meccans worship the true God since they recognized "Allah" ? Was "Allah" one of the gods of the Ka'bah?
And if so, where did the Meccans derive the recognition and the name of "Allah" from?

Answer:
First, "Allah" was not one of the 360 idols which were in the Ka'bah, although Morey has claimed this without evidence. When the Prophet Muhammad (Peace be upon him) entered Makkah victorious he went into the Ka'bah and broke the idols therein.

Second, the word "Allah" has been used all along for the name of "God" in the Arabic Bible for Jews and Christians alike. The proof is easy to verify; simple go to any hotel or motel on the earth and look in the drawer next to the bed and take out the complimentary Bible, placed there by the Giddeons and then look on page 5 or 6 where they list the examples of translations they have made into other languages. The second example given is for Arabic speakers. The verse is from the Gospel of John, chapter 3, verse 16. Everyone knows this one; "For God so loved the world..." and the word in Arabic for "God" is "Allah." Then if you have a Bible in Arabic, look on page one in Genesis, and you will find the word "Allah" 17 times.

Allah may or may not be the Allah of the Moon, who knows? The fact does remain there was a Moon god allah before and during the time of Muhammad.

There are many artifacts that support this FACT! Deny all you want the artifact still exist, no lie from Muslims can change that. If your religion has to make blatant lies to make Islam look better, do you really want to be part of that religion?

Why don't you go look at the artifacts in the Museum yourself, maybe you can Jihad the place because History does not agree with the lies of Muhammad. Show us all as Muslims do again and again just how peaceful Islam really is!

Hardhead wrote:

by Sheikh Shabir Ally.
Post#3
Question 5:
Did the Meccans worship the true God since they recognized "Allah" ? Was "Allah" one of the gods of the Ka'bah?
And if so, where did the Meccans derive the recognition and the name of "Allah" from?
Answer:
First, "Allah" was not one of the 360 idols which were in the Ka'bah, although Morey has claimed this without evidence. When the Prophet Muhammad (Peace be upon him) entered Makkah victorious he went into the Ka'bah and broke the idols therein.
Second, the word "Allah" has been used all along for the name of "God" in the Arabic Bible for Jews and Christians alike. The proof is easy to verify; simple go to any hotel or motel on the earth and look in the drawer next to the bed and take out the complimentary Bible, placed there by the Giddeons and then look on page 5 or 6 where they list the examples of translations they have made into other languages. The second example given is for Arabic speakers. The verse is from the Gospel of John, chapter 3, verse 16. Everyone knows this one; "For God so loved the world..." and the word in Arabic for "God" is "Allah." Then if you have a Bible in Arabic, look on page one in Genesis, and you will find the word "Allah" 17 times.

the rules will obviously be different for the person who invents the rules...
why should we grudge him a dozen or so wives...
apart from ummah he had his own member to be catered to and satisfied...
big revolutions ask for some sacrifices...

so just consider that a few young women had to sacrifice their free choice and rights to keep a great man happy so that he can propogate his cult as a satisfied man...

Hardhead
Jazak allah khier
kol aam w antom bkhier

ABDULLAH,
kol aam w antom b5ier.
Marahib uluf.

ABDULLAH wrote:

Hardhead
Jazak allah khier
kol aam w antom bkhier

ABDULLAH wrote:

Hardhead
Jazak allah khier
kol aam w antom bkhier

ABDULLAh ..

aftaqdna Mawadhi3ka ..

be close ..

Hardhead ,,

keep it up ..

Jazzak Allah 3naa w3an al-Eslam Khairan ..

Given the amount of artifacts concerning the worship of this Moon-god, it is clear that this was the dominant religion in Sumeria. The cult of the Moon-god was the most popular religion throughout ancient Mesopotamia. The Assyrians, Babylonians, and the Akkadians took the word Suen and transformed it into the word Sin as their favorite name for the Moon-god. In ancient Syria and Canna, the Moon-god Sin was usually represented by the moon in it's crescent phase. According to numerous inscriptions, while the name of the Moon-god was Sin, his title was al-ilah, i.e. "the deity," meaning that he was the chief or high god among the gods. Thus "the god Il or Ilah was originally a phase of the Moon God." The Moon-god was called al-ilah, i.e. the god, which was shortened to Allah in pre-Islamic times.

The pagan Arabs even used Allah in the names they gave to their children. For example, both Muhammad's father and uncle had Allah as part of their names. The fact that they were given such names by their pagan parents proves that Allah was the title for the Moon-god even in Muhammad's day. Thus, under Mohammed's tutelage, the relatively anonymous Ilah, became Al-Ilah, The God, or Allah, the Supreme Being."
That the Hebrew God was co-opted by Muhammad for his needs (reducing inter-tribal warfare based on hostile competition between tribal deities) is wrong. Having studied Muhammad's history from an author who was hostile to Islam and a Muslim author, I found no evidence or reference to Muhammad being involved in warfare until he tried to convert the Arabs and Jews of Mecca and they resisted. Muhammad eventually moved to Medina where is fortunes improved considerably; he formed an army, fought in over 70 wars and gained considerable wealth and prestige by robbing caravans and eventually he took over Mecca.

http://www.danielpipes.org/comments/119491

pictures of artifacts of the moon god

http://www.journeytojesus.com/ArchaelogicalGa...

There is el refuted evidence, let the proof speak louder than words

and mo went and cut the moon.. didnt moon god get angry... just wonder is this the reason why his followers cut the member...

harsh but true wrote:

and mo went and cut the moon.. didnt moon god get angry... just wonder is this the reason why his followers cut the member...

when is moon god ever NOT angry

anger, true face of islam