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#42
Nov 15, 2009
 
Do you mean God was talking to Luke and inspired him to write his Gospel?? Bring your evidence??

Answer the question,please?
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#43
Nov 15, 2009
 
(2 Timothy 3:16-17) 16 All Scripture is inspired of God and beneficial for teaching, for reproving, for setting things straight, for disciplining in righteousness, 17 that the man of God may be fully competent, completely equipped for every good work...

Inspired does not mean dictated.


Luke 1:1 Forasmuch as many have taken in hand to set forth in order a declaration of those things which are most surely believed among us,

Luke 1:2 Even as they delivered them unto us, which from the beginning were eyewitnesses, and ministers of the word;
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#44
Nov 15, 2009
 
Luke's Gospel is a collection of child stories and have no thing to do with divinity.. and this what luke said in his book..
Inspired means dictated by Angel to the Prophet or messenger by the decree of God.
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(2 Timothy 3:16-17) 16 All Scripture is inspired of God and beneficial for teaching, for reproving, for setting things straight, for disciplining in righteousness, 17 that the man of God may be fully competent, completely equipped for every good work...
Inspired does not mean dictated.
Luke 1:1 Forasmuch as many have taken in hand to set forth in order a declaration of those things which are most surely believed among us,
Luke 1:2 Even as they delivered them unto us, which from the beginning were eyewitnesses, and ministers of the word;
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#45
Nov 16, 2009
 
Tell it to God, he was with the disciples, inspired by God.

"It is He Who sent down to thee (step by step), in truth, the Book, confirming what went before it; and He sent down the Law (of Moses) and the Gospel (of Jesus) before this, as a guide to mankind, and He sent down the criterion (of judgment between right and wrong)," (3:3).

Also, "And in their footsteps We sent Jesus the son of Mary, confirming the Law that had come before him: We sent him the Gospel: therein was guidance and light, and confirmation of the Law that had come before him: a guidance and an admonition to those who fear Allah," (5:46).

"The word of thy Lord doth find its fulfillment in truth and in justice: None can change His words: for He is the one who heareth and knoweth all," (6:115).
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Luke's Gospel is a collection of child stories and have no thing to do with divinity.. and this what luke said in his book..
Inspired means dictated by Angel to the Prophet or messenger by the decree of God.
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#46
Nov 16, 2009
 
Quoting a few verses of the Noble Quran doesn't give Luke's Gospel the authenticity. Luke's Gospel is a collection of children myth stories.
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Tell it to God, he was with the disciples, inspired by God.
"It is He Who sent down to thee (step by step), in truth, the Book, confirming what went before it; and He sent down the Law (of Moses) and the Gospel (of Jesus) before this, as a guide to mankind, and He sent down the criterion (of judgment between right and wrong)," (3:3).
Also, "And in their footsteps We sent Jesus the son of Mary, confirming the Law that had come before him: We sent him the Gospel: therein was guidance and light, and confirmation of the Law that had come before him: a guidance and an admonition to those who fear Allah," (5:46).
"The word of thy Lord doth find its fulfillment in truth and in justice: None can change His words: for He is the one who heareth and knoweth all," (6:115).
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#47
Nov 16, 2009
 
Muhamamd said the Bible is the word of God, do you now listen to him either?

Artifact show the gospel of Luke was in Bibles before and during Muhammad time. Take his word for it as he is your prophet!
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Quoting a few verses of the Noble Quran doesn't give Luke's Gospel the authenticity. Luke's Gospel is a collection of children myth stories.
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Nov 17, 2009
 
Yes,I too say the Injeel/Gospel is the word of God,but not the one in your hands.It's the Original that you lost which was sent to Jesus to preach to The house of Israel only.
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Muhamamd said the Bible is the word of God, do you now listen to him either?
Artifact show the gospel of Luke was in Bibles before and during Muhammad time. Take his word for it as he is your prophet!
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Nov 17, 2009
 
OK, you believe what you want, you need to remember Muhamamd gave you no detail and again the artifact show ancient Bibles from 90AD read the same as Christian Bibles today. So if knowing that you still come to the conclusion you mention here, so be it.
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Yes,I too say the Injeel/Gospel is the word of God,but not the one in your hands.It's the Original that you lost which was sent to Jesus to preach to The house of Israel only.
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#50
Nov 17, 2009
 
Read and grasp,

“Then woe to those who write the book with their own hands and then say:‘This is from God’, to traffic with it for a miserable price. Woe to them for what their hands do write and for the gain they make thereby.”(Quran 2:79)
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OK, you believe what you want, you need to remember Muhamamd gave you no detail and again the artifact show ancient Bibles from 90AD read the same as Christian Bibles today. So if knowing that you still come to the conclusion you mention here, so be it.
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#51
Nov 17, 2009
 
Read this,
Dr. W Graham Scroggie of the Moody Bible Institute, Chicago, a prestigious Christian evangelical mission, says:

“..Yes, the Bible is human, although some out of zeal which is not according to knowledge, have denied this. Those books have passed through the minds of men, are written in the language of men, were penned by the hands of men and bear in their style the characteristics of men….It is Human, Yet Divine,”[1]

Another Christian scholar, Kenneth Cragg, the Anglican Bishop of Jerusalem, says:

“...Not so the New Testament...There is condensation and editing; there is choice reproduction and witness. The Gospels have come through the mind of the church behind the authors. They represent experience and history...”[2]

“It is well known that the primitive Christian Gospel was initially transmitted by word of mouth and that this oral tradition resulted in variant reporting of word and deed. It is equally true that when the Christian record was committed to writing it continued to be the subject of verbal variation. Involuntary and intentional, at the hands of scribes and editors.”[3]

“Yet, as a matter of fact, every book of the New Testament with the exception of the four great Epistles of St. Paul is at present more or less the subject of controversy, and interpolations are asserted even in these.”[4]

Dr. Lobegott Friedrich Konstantin Von Tischendorf, one of the most adamant conservative Christian defenders of the Trinity was himself driven to admit that:

“[the New Testament had] in many passages undergone such serious modification of meaning as to leave us in painful uncertainty as to what the Apostles had actually written”[5]

After listing many examples of contradictory statements in the Bible, Dr. Frederic Kenyon says:

“Besides the larger discrepancies, such as these, there is scarcely a verse in which there is not some variation of phrase in some copies [of the ancient manuscripts from which the Bible has been collected]. No one can say that these additions or omissions or alterations are matters of mere indifference”[6]

Throughout this book you will find countless other similar quotations from some of Christendom’s leading scholars. Let us suffice with these for now.
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OK, you believe what you want, you need to remember Muhamamd gave you no detail and again the artifact show ancient Bibles from 90AD read the same as Christian Bibles today. So if knowing that you still come to the conclusion you mention here, so be it.
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#52
Nov 17, 2009
 
Good finally a source with a name, that is a move in the right direction. Yes people wrote the Bible, inspired by God. Read all of Moody studies and that is clear, again what is the point?

As for the Qu'ran it was also written by man onto leafs, are you surprise Hardhead, the Qu'ran was not in the handwriting of Allah. Muhamamd "claimed" it too was inspired by God.
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Dr. W Graham Scroggie of the Moody Bible Institute, Chicago, a prestigious Christian evangelical mission, says:

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#53
Nov 18, 2009
 
US Soldiers in Afghanistan Told to "Hunt People for Jesus... So We Get Them into The Kingdom"
Military officials at Bagram are caught on tape urging US soldiers to evangelize in the Muslim country.
by Jeremy Scahill

New video evidence has surfaced showing that US military forces in Afghanistan have been instructed by the military's top chaplain in the country to "hunt people for Jesus" as they spread Christianity to the overwhelmingly Muslim population. Soldiers also have imported bibles translated into Pashto and Dari, the two dominant languages of Afghanistan. What's more, the center of this evangelical operation is at the huge US base at Bagram, one of the main sites used by the US military to torture and indefinitely detain prisoners.

In a video obtained by Al Jazeera and broadcast Monday, Lieutenant-Colonel Gary Hensley, the chief of the US military chaplains in Afghanistan, is seen telling soldiers that as followers of Jesus Christ, they all have a responsibility "to be witnesses for him."

"The special forces guys - they hunt men basically. We do the same things as Christians, we hunt people for Jesus. We do, we hunt them down," he says.

"Get the hound of heaven after them, so we get them into the kingdom. That's what we do, that's our business."

The translated Bibles appear to be the New Testament. According to Al Jazeera, US soldiers "had them specially printed and shipped to Afghanistan." On the tape, one soldier describes how his church in the US helped raise money for the bibles. Al Jazeera reports that "What these soldiers have been doing may well be in direct violation of the US Constitution, their professional codes and the regulations in place for all forces in Afghanistan." The US military officially forbids "proselytising of any religion, faith or practice." But, as Al Jazeera reports:
Jan wrote:
Good finally a source with a name, that is a move in the right direction. Yes people wrote the Bible, inspired by God. Read all of Moody studies and that is clear, again what is the point?
As for the Qu'ran it was also written by man onto leafs, are you surprise Hardhead, the Qu'ran was not in the handwriting of Allah. Muhamamd "claimed" it too was inspired by God.
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#54
Nov 18, 2009
 
OK a Christian minister is preaching peaceful evangelism, what is the problem.

What do you fear Hardhead, God is almighty and will lead these people to the right direction if it be Islam or Christianity. Let the people hear the word of God from the Bible and let them decide what is true, not some local Islamic Inman.
Hardhead wrote:
US Soldiers in Afghanistan Told to "Hunt People for Jesus... So We Get Them into The Kingdom"
Military officials at Bagram are caught on tape urging US soldiers to evangelize in the Muslim country.
by Jeremy Scahill
New video evidence has surfaced showing that US military forces in Afghanistan have been instructed by the military's top chaplain in the country to "hunt people for Jesus" as they spread Christianity to the overwhelmingly Muslim population. Soldiers also have imported bibles translated into Pashto and Dari, the two dominant languages of Afghanistan. What's more, the center of this evangelical operation is at the huge US base at Bagram, one of the main sites used by the US military to torture and indefinitely detain prisoners.
In a video obtained by Al Jazeera and broadcast Monday, Lieutenant-Colonel Gary Hensley, the chief of the US military chaplains in Afghanistan, is seen telling soldiers that as followers of Jesus Christ, they all have a responsibility "to be witnesses for him."
"The special forces guys - they hunt men basically. We do the same things as Christians, we hunt people for Jesus. We do, we hunt them down," he says.
"Get the hound of heaven after them, so we get them into the kingdom. That's what we do, that's our business."
The translated Bibles appear to be the New Testament. According to Al Jazeera, US soldiers "had them specially printed and shipped to Afghanistan." On the tape, one soldier describes how his church in the US helped raise money for the bibles. Al Jazeera reports that "What these soldiers have been doing may well be in direct violation of the US Constitution, their professional codes and the regulations in place for all forces in Afghanistan." The US military officially forbids "proselytising of any religion, faith or practice." But, as Al Jazeera reports:
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#55
Nov 18, 2009
 
Hunt people for Jesus. It's against the Laws of both countries.
It is likely to add more credence to the perception that the US is engaging in a war on Islam with neo-crusader forces invading Muslim lands.
I think you understand this,but it's good to educate you in this matter,even if I doubt you grasping it.
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OK a Christian minister is preaching peaceful evangelism, what is the problem.
What do you fear Hardhead, God is almighty and will lead these people to the right direction if it be Islam or Christianity. Let the people hear the word of God from the Bible and let them decide what is true, not some local Islamic Inman.
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#56
Nov 18, 2009
 
I don't know about you but I only follow God laws not man's, who cares what rubbish laws they have.

In China it is against the law to practice Islam, do you truly believe Islam should not be practiced in China due to their laws?
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Nov 18, 2009
 
Hunt people for Jesus. It's against the Laws of both countries.
It is likely to add more credence to the perception that the US is engaging in a war on Islam with neo-crusader forces invading Muslim lands.
I think you understand this,but it's good to educate you in this matter,even if I doubt you grasping it.
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Are you willing to break the Laws of USA???
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Nov 18, 2009
 
As for President Bush, Boykin said, "Why is this man in the White House? The majority of Americans did not vote for him. Why is he there? And I tell you this morning that he's in the White House because God put him there for a time such as this." In another speech, Boykin said other countries "have lost their morals, lost their values. But America is still a Christian nation." He told a church group in Oregon that special operations forces were victorious in Iraq because of their faith in God. "Ladies and gentlemen, I want to impress upon you that the battle that we're in is a spiritual battle," he said. "Satan wants to destroy this nation, he wants to destroy us as a nation, and he wants to destroy us as a Christian army."
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I don't know about you but I only follow God laws not man's, who cares what rubbish laws they have.
In China it is against the law to practice Islam, do you truly believe Islam should not be practiced in China due to their laws?
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#59
Nov 19, 2009
 
In China it is against the law to practice Islam, do you truly believe Islam should not be practiced in China due to their laws?
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Hunt people for Jesus. It's against the Laws of both countries.

Are you willing to break the Laws of USA???
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Nov 19, 2009
 
Do you break the Law of any country you live in??
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In China it is against the law to practice Islam, do you truly believe Islam should not be practiced in China due to their laws?
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#61
Nov 19, 2009
 
I disagree, God gave us free will, government shall not reign over us. IN China those that want to practice Islam or any religion should be allowed. IN Afghanistan them hearing about Christ is good, they can decide for them-self if they believe in Christ message or Muhammad's.

God gave us minds to use and free will to decide!
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