Sunita Williams Converted to Islam

USA,military personal been caught preaching bible to Afghanis and they pay money for the poor civilians to christianizing them,as need of poverty. Who is delusional??

Marco the atheist wrote:

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In Iraq and Afghanistan, about 75% of the people were being bullied to follow a culture they had not chosen. I've never heard a peep out of you or your countrymen about that. Now that the muslims there finally get the option to chose themselves, you claim they are being forced to accept 'christian' culture? You must be delusional.

y r u non-Muslims saying such rubbish things about r religion when u dn't even follow ur own religion let us follow r own and plz if u can't join the only religion dat is Islam then plz follow ur own.

if u think hinduism is better den y do u make ur god from ur own dirty hands and in defferent shapes lookls and sizes bcuz u dn't really knw ur god.

and if ur cristian den y does ur Bible change after some time and y dn't u follow it. ask a question to ur self dat do u really follow ur religion do u go to ur churches an d get some useful information from it and follow it from ur heart.

our religion ISLAM is the only perfect religion of THE GOD bcause THE GOD "ALLAH" HIM self protects QURAN and it has never changed a bit till dis very day dis is a true miracle and still we Muslims can lead our lives according to it in a way dat is better den any other regligon

Thanks Marco your so right, not only forcing the people, also allowing terror camps to openly run in their country leading terrorist attacks on other countries.

Hardhead can only see one way the biased Islamic way! This is why radical Islam will grow as the Moderate Muslims are apathetic and don't see (or refuse to see) the whole picture.

Hardhead wrote:

USA,military personal been caught preaching bible to Afghanis and they pay money for the poor civilians to christianizing them,as need of poverty. Who is delusional??
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a) What exactly is wrong with people preaching their religion? It's not as if muslims are not constantly trying to convert others.

b) Please provide evidence of money offered for conversion. I very much doubt a poor Afghan would take such money, in the knowledge he will be completely oustracised in Afghan society for not being a muslim (and apostasy is still a capital offence in Afghanistan)

Come with something more credible and better argumented and documented, please. You are not talking to one of your fellow-ignorant and easily deluded countrymen.

You proof otherwise?

Marco the atheist wrote:

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a) What exactly is wrong with people preaching their religion? It's not as if muslims are not constantly trying to convert others.
b) Please provide evidence of money offered for conversion. I very much doubt a poor Afghan would take such money, in the knowledge he will be completely oustracised in Afghan society for not being a muslim (and apostasy is still a capital offence in Afghanistan)
Come with something more credible and better argumented and documented, please. You are not talking to one of your fellow-ignorant and easily deluded countrymen.

Hardhead wrote:

You proof otherwise?
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You make the claim, you provide the proof, not the other way around hardhead.

Marco,
Not my business to provide any thing if you're really interested you can look it up yourself.
disribution of the bible in Afghan is a crime and any one held doing that will be jailed. Same thing it's against the Law of USA too. It's a crime to do this.

Marco the atheist wrote:

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You make the claim, you provide the proof, not the other way around hardhead.

Hardhead you cannot make claims then when asked not back it up with something, otherwise it rubbish. Marco is right, make a claims and source it when asked.

Simon did that to me many times, I would post something he challenged it, I would source it. He may not have likes the source, when I linked to a Islamic site saying they expect to control Denmark in 20 years, but at least it was a source.

Hardhead wrote:

Marco,
Not my business to provide any thing if you're really interested you can look it up yourself.
disribution of the bible in Afghan is a crime and any one held doing that will be jailed. Same thing it's against the Law of USA too. It's a crime to do this.
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I'm sure you started to have problems with yourself. I'm here not to render service, I post facts and it's upto you to agree or disagree with what I post. It's your right to accept or reject the comment. If you feel it's rubbish than it's your right to reject,but the post I make is true.

Jan wrote:

Hardhead you cannot make claims then when asked not back it up with something, otherwise it rubbish. Marco is right, make a claims and source it when asked.
Simon did that to me many times, I would post something he challenged it, I would source it. He may not have likes the source, when I linked to a Islamic site saying they expect to control Denmark in 20 years, but at least it was a source.
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Rubbish, if it is a true source you would have posted a link, obviously you choose to promote propaganda and Islamic backed lies. If that is what your religion and Allah allows, so be it!

Hardhead wrote:

I'm sure you started to have problems with yourself. I'm here not to render service, I post facts and it's upto you to agree or disagree with what I post. It's your right to accept or reject the comment. If you feel it's rubbish than it's your right to reject,but the post I make is true.
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US Soldiers in Afghanistan Told to "Hunt People for Jesus... So We Get Them into The Kingdom"
Military officials at Bagram are caught on tape urging US soldiers to evangelize in the Muslim country.

by Jeremy Scahill
New video evidence has surfaced showing that US military forces in Afghanistan have been instructed by the military's top chaplain in the country to "hunt people for Jesus" as they spread Christianity to the overwhelmingly Muslim population. Soldiers also have imported bibles translated into Pashto and Dari, the two dominant languages of Afghanistan. What's more, the center of this evangelical operation is at the huge US base at Bagram, one of the main sites used by the US military to torture and indefinitely detain prisoners.
In a video obtained by Al Jazeera and broadcast Monday, Lieutenant-Colonel Gary Hensley, the chief of the US military chaplains in Afghanistan, is seen telling soldiers that as followers of Jesus Christ, they all have a responsibility "to be witnesses for him."
"The special forces guys - they hunt men basically. We do the same things as Christians, we hunt people for Jesus. We do, we hunt them down," he says.
"Get the hound of heaven after them, so we get them into the kingdom. That's what we do, that's our business."
The translated Bibles appear to be the New Testament. According to Al Jazeera, US soldiers "had them specially printed and shipped to Afghanistan." On the tape, one soldier describes how his church in the US helped raise money for the bibles. Al Jazeera reports that "What these soldiers have been doing may well be in direct violation of the US Constitution, their professional codes and the regulations in place for all forces in Afghanistan." The US military officially forbids "proselytising of any religion, faith or practice." But, as Al Jazeera reports:

Jan wrote:

Rubbish, if it is a true source you would have posted a link, obviously you choose to promote propaganda and Islamic backed lies. If that is what your religion and Allah allows, so be it!
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The US military officially forbids "proselytising of any religion, faith or practice." But, as Al Jazeera reports:

[T]he chaplains appear to have found a way around the regulation known as General Order Number One.
"Do we know what it means to proselytise?" Captain Emmit Furner, a military chaplain, says to the gathering.

"It is General Order Number One," an unidentified soldier replies.

But Watt says "you can't proselytise but you can give gifts."

Trying to convert Muslims to any other faith is a crime in Afghanistan. The fact that the video footage is being broadcast on Al Jazeera guarantees that it will be seen throughout the Muslim world. It is likely to add more credence to the perception that the US is engaging in a war on Islam with neo-crusader forces invading Muslim lands.

Former Afghan prime minister Ahmed Shah Ahmedzai told Al Jazeera there must be a "serious investigation," saying, "This is very damaging for diplomatic relations between the two counties." Sayed Aalam Uddin Asser, of the Islamic Front for Peace and Understanding in Kabul, told the network: "It's a national security issue ... our constitution says nothing can take place in Afghanistan against Islam. If people come and propaganda other religions which have no followers in Afghanistan [then] it creates problems for the people, for peace, for stability."

A US military spokesperson, Major Jennifer Willis, denied that the US military has allowed its soldiers to attempt to convert Afghans and said comments from sermons filmed at Bagram were taken out of context. She said the bibles were never distributed. "That specific case involved a soldier who brought in a donation of translated bibles that were sent to his personal address by his home church. He showed them to the group and the chaplain explained that he cannot distribute them," she said. "The translated bibles were never distributed as far as we know, because the soldier understood that if he distributed them he would be in violation of general order 1, and he would be subject to punishment."

I'm an American and I didn't know these things were going on over there.
Could it be that the Afghan Government is using these kind of incidents to distract from its own corruption?

OK, they pass out Bibles, this is what they mean by hunt them, to give them the word of God. What is the big deal, as if this is the first case of missionary work.

Muslims term of hunt down on to conquer and destroy simply not pass out Qu'rans.

Hardhead wrote:

US Soldiers in Afghanistan Told to "Hunt People for Jesus... So We Get Them into The Kingdom"
Military officials at Bagram are caught on tape urging US soldiers to evangelize in the Muslim country.
by Jeremy Scahill
New video evidence has surfaced showing that US military forces in Afghanistan have been instructed by the military's top chaplain in the country to "hunt people for Jesus" as they spread Christianity to the overwhelmingly Muslim population. Soldiers also have imported bibles translated into Pashto and Dari, the two dominant languages of Afghanistan. What's more, the center of this evangelical operation is at the huge US base at Bagram, one of the main sites used by the US military to torture and indefinitely detain prisoners.

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KIP wrote:

I'm an American and I didn't know these things were going on over there.

50% of americans believe the sun is revolving around the earth, and not the other way round,,,,so you are forgiven.

But in the future try to stay a bit more informed about what happens in the rest of the world!

Yes the afghan government is dead corrupt, thats the way old tribal societies work, like it or not.

But does that mean that one should use that as an excuse for ones own stupidity??

Jan wrote:

OK, they pass out Bibles, this is what they mean by hunt them, to give them the word of God. What is the big deal,
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Apart from the fact that they probably are going to include the same lot in next days report over collateral damage, then as you say "No big deal" at all.

In fact no bigger deal than if some islamist tried to push the koran towards your kids or others in your close vicinity.

I know that you are extremely tolerant towards other religions, so as you say,,,,,no big deal at all LOLLLLLLLL.

Hardhead wrote:

I'm sure you started to have problems with yourself. I'm here not to render service, I post facts
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Until you post some VALID sources, your facts are BS.

Mea,
You've told us this when you were in Iraq fighting the civilians besides Christian forces.It's good you remind me of the time you were killing innocent people in a very cold blood to satisfy Bush/Blair arrogance.hahahaha...

Mea wrote:

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Until you post some VALID sources, your facts are BS.

Trying to convert Muslims to any other faith is a crime in Afghanistan. The fact that the video footage is being broadcast on Al Jazeera guarantees that it will be seen throughout the Muslim world. It is likely to add more credence to the perception that the US is engaging in a war on Islam with neo-crusader forces invading Muslim lands.

Former Afghan prime minister Ahmed Shah Ahmedzai told Al Jazeera there must be a "serious investigation," saying, "This is very damaging for diplomatic relations between the two counties." Sayed Aalam Uddin Asser, of the Islamic Front for Peace and Understanding in Kabul, told the network: "It's a national security issue ... our constitution says nothing can take place in Afghanistan against Islam. If people come and propaganda other religions which have no followers in Afghanistan [then] it creates problems for the people, for peace, for stability."

A US military spokesperson, Major Jennifer Willis, denied that the US military has allowed its soldiers to attempt to convert Afghans and said comments from sermons filmed at Bagram were taken out of context. She said the bibles were never distributed. "That specific case involved a soldier who brought in a donation of translated bibles that were sent to his personal address by his home church. He showed them to the group and the chaplain explained that he cannot distribute them," she said. "The translated bibles were never distributed as far as we know, because the soldier understood that if he distributed them he would be in violation of general order 1, and he would be subject to punishment."

The video footage was shot about a year ago by documentary filmmaker Brian Hughes, who is also a former US soldier. "[US soldiers] weren't talking about learning how to speak Dari or Pashto, by reading the Bible and using that as the tool for language lessons," Hughes told Al Jazeera. "The only reason they would have these documents there was to distribute them to the Afghan people. And I knew it was wrong, and I knew that filming it ... documenting it would be important."

Jan wrote:

OK, they pass out Bibles, this is what they mean by hunt them, to give them the word of God. What is the big deal, as if this is the first case of missionary work.
Muslims term of hunt down on to conquer and destroy simply not pass out Qu'rans.
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Hardhead wrote:

Mea,
You've told us this when you were in Iraq fighting the civilians besides Christian forces.It's good you remind me of the time you were killing innocent people in a very cold blood to satisfy Bush/Blair arrogance.hahahaha...
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I in Iraq Fighting?????

Yes I have spend quite some time in Iraq, but that was before the "crusades" (you know before your government came begging for help, and even offered to pay for it)

My involvement has been entirely peaceful, I detest violence :-)

I think you misunderstood something Hardhead.

But besides all that.

What does this have to do with my post to you???