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simon
Vanløse, Denmark
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Jan wrote: Cook’s intention was not to steal land from the Aborigines. In fact he rather idealised them:‘They are far more happier than we Europeans’, he wrote.‘They think themselves provided with all the necessaries of Life and that they have no superfluities.’ At most, his patriotic ceremony was intended to contain the territorial ambitions of the French, and of the Dutch, who had visited and mapped much of the western and southern coast over the previous two centuries. Indeed, Cook knew the western half of Australia as ‘New Holland’. Eighteen years after Cook’s arrival, in 1788, the English were back to stay with a fleet of 11 ships, packed with supplies including weapons, tools, building materials and livestock. The ships also contained 751 ragtag convicts, and around 250 soldiers, officials and their wives. <quoted text> ehm ok... Do you have a point with the history-lesson? Prefrable one related to the post you comment on...
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simon
Vanløse, Denmark
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Jan wrote: There is hope, read about this former Muslims now Christian in Australia. He was a radical Muslims and helped to overthrow the Shaw of Iran to radical Khomeini. His goal to expose the truth of Islam and convert Australian Muslims to Christ. He is located in Sydney. http://www.escapefromdarkness.org/about <quoted text> Sure.... And you can stop by his online shop a buy the book "Christ above all gods" and learn how every religion besides mr. Shayesteh's are wrong...
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Jan
Temecula, CA
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I agree with you, unfortunately you have a double hypocritical standard. Constantinople was overthrow by force, Syria once Christian the Muslims forced them out, we well as Persia and even Medina by Muhamamd himself. As you said "whatever" justification they have no "Business". When you condemn the atrocities committed by Muslims then I will be open to hear your point in regards to other atrocities. If you like please explain how the atrocities of Islam are better than the atrocities of Australians? Hardhead wrote: To start from last,they have no business to stay in this country,whatever jusification you try to use,it wont work with Aborigines. they know who confiscated their land and stole whatever they had.. that's the worste colonization the humanity ever had. <quoted text>
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Jan
Temecula, CA
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As A Christian both of us I pray you someday realize your-post will not benefit anyone. simon wrote: <quoted text> Sure.... And you can stop by his online shop a buy the book "Christ above all gods" and learn how every religion besides mr. Shayesteh's are wrong...
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simon
Vanløse, Denmark
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Hardhead wrote: To start from last,they have no business to stay in this country,whatever jusification you try to use,it wont work with Aborigines. they know who confiscated their land and stole whatever they had.. that's the worste colonization the humanity ever had. <quoted text> you're boring, HH...
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simon
Vanløse, Denmark
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Jan wrote: As A Christian both of us I pray you someday realize your-post will not benefit anyone. <quoted text> YOu should rely on prayers, jan...'cause your flawed arguments and prophecies sure as hell aren't getting the job done...
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Jan
Temecula, CA
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They are not my prophecies...... simon wrote: <quoted text> YOu should rely on prayers, jan...'cause your flawed arguments and prophecies sure as hell aren't getting the job done...
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Jan
Temecula, CA
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Blind faith has been the biggest sin since time immemorial and will always be so because it is the most profound insult to God's gift to man - our brain. Hardhead wrote: Good boy,that's the Jusus of Islam, like his Brother Prophet Muhammad(saw) who hate the habit of committing sin. <quoted text>
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Hardhead
Riyadh, Saudi Arabia
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Good boy,that's the Jusus of Islam, like his Brother Prophet Muhammad(saw) who hate the habit of committing sin.
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Jan
Temecula, CA
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Possible Muhammad forgot the definition of sin when he ravaged Safaya husband with a fire on his chest or took 8 year old Aisha to his bed? Hardhead wrote: Good boy,that's the Jusus of Islam, like his Brother Prophet Muhammad(saw) who hate the habit of committing sin.
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Hardhead
Riyadh, Saudi Arabia
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33.50. O Prophet!(Muhammad,saw), We have made lawful to thee thy wives to whom thou hast paid their dowers; and those whom thy right hand possesses out of the prisoners of war whom Allah has assigned to thee; and daughters of thy paternal uncles and aunts, and daughters of thy maternal uncles and aunts, who migrated (from Makka) with thee; and any believing woman who dedicates her soul to the Prophet if the Prophet wishes to wed her;- this only for thee, and not for the Believers (at large); We know what We have appointed for them as to their wives and the captives whom their right hands possess;- in order that there should be no difficulty for thee. And Allah is Oft- Forgiving, Most Merciful. Jan wrote: Possible Muhammad forgot the definition of sin when he ravaged Safaya husband with a fire on his chest or took 8 year old Aisha to his bed? <quoted text>
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Jan
Temecula, CA
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Awful convenient for the guy, lucky for him Allah allowed all his wife's and even an 8 year old little child to fulfill his pedophilia fantasies. What guy that Allah is! Hardhead wrote: 33.50. O Prophet!(Muhammad,saw), We have made lawful to thee thy wives to whom thou hast paid their dowers; <quoted text>
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Since: Nov 06
Marseille, France
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Jan wrote: Awful convenient for the guy, lucky for him Allah allowed all his wife's and even an 8 year old little child to fulfill his pedophilia fantasies. What guy that Allah is! <quoted text> What part have you not understood yet Jan ???? Mohammed only married ONE woman for love Khadija, his first wife all others were an "order" from God.
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Hardhead
Riyadh, Saudi Arabia
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How can you say you are a person of faith, yet you want to redefine God's Holy Institution of Marriage? Jan wrote: Awful convenient for the guy, lucky for him Allah allowed all his wife's and even an 8 year old little child to fulfill his pedophilia fantasies. What guy that Allah is! <quoted text>
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Hardhead
Riyadh, Saudi Arabia
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Lusen,this is a wise comment,thanks. Lusen wrote: <quoted text>What part have you not understood yet Jan ???? Mohammed only married ONE woman for love Khadija, his first wife all others were an "order" from God.
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Jan
Temecula, CA
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So Muhamamd said Allah told him, or was it the same angel that masqueraded as Gabriel? NO one directly can verify that, Muhamamd told them so and that is a far as it goes. A few more Islamic Hadith verses. (Suhayli, ii. 79: in the Riwaya of Yunus i. I. Recorded that the apostle saw her (Ummu'lfadl) when she was a baby crawling before him and said,'if she grows up and I am still alive I will marry her.' but he died before she grew up and sufyan b. Al-aswad b.'Abdu'l-asad al-Makhzumi married her and she bore him rizq and lubab…[Ibn Ishaq, The Life of Muhammad, Karachi, p. 311] Muhammad saw Um Habiba the daughter of Abbas while she was fatim (age of nursing) and he said, "if she grows up while I am still alive, I will marry her." (Musnad Ahmad, number 25636) Bukhari volume 1, book 6, number 299: Narrated 'Abdur-rahman bin al-Aswad: …(on the authority of his father)'Aisha said: "Whenever Allah's apostle wanted to fondle anyone of us during her periods (menses), he used to order her to put on an izar and start fondling her." 'Aisha added, "None of you could control his sexual desires as the prophet could." Lusen wrote: <quoted text>What part have you not understood yet Jan ???? Mohammed only married ONE woman for love Khadija, his first wife all others were an "order" from God.
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Since: Nov 06
Marseille, France
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Hardhead wrote: Lusen,this is a wise comment,thanks. <quoted text> I had some of the best teachers.:))
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Hardhead
Riyadh, Saudi Arabia
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We muslims believe in Prophet Muhammad(saw)and believe whatever he said, and whatever he said is true and the truth. How can you prove that Jesus if true not a myth,and what makes you believe in that while his nation rejected him,are better informed than they're they were and they will be. You are who know it all,man. Jan wrote: So Muhamamd said Allah told him, or was it the same angel that masqueraded as Gabriel? NO one directly can verify that, Muhamamd told them so and that is a far as it goes. A few more Islamic Hadith verses. (Suhayli, ii. 79: in the Riwaya of Yunus i. I. Recorded that the apostle saw her (Ummu'lfadl) when she was a baby crawling before him and said,'if she grows up and I am still alive I will marry her.' but he died before she grew up and sufyan b. Al-aswad b.'Abdu'l-asad al-Makhzumi married her and she bore him rizq and lubab…[Ibn Ishaq, The Life of Muhammad, Karachi, p. 311] Muhammad saw Um Habiba the daughter of Abbas while she was fatim (age of nursing) and he said, "if she grows up while I am still alive, I will marry her." (Musnad Ahmad, number 25636) Bukhari volume 1, book 6, number 299: Narrated 'Abdur-rahman bin al-Aswad: …(on the authority of his father)'Aisha said: "Whenever Allah's apostle wanted to fondle anyone of us during her periods (menses), he used to order her to put on an izar and start fondling her." 'Aisha added, "None of you could control his sexual desires as the prophet could." <quoted text>
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Hardhead
Riyadh, Saudi Arabia
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And the LORD GOD said unto Moses, Take all the heads of the people, and hang them up before the LORD against the sun, that the fierce anger of the LORD may be turned away from Israel. Numbers 25:4
Is this a thing a blameless, pure and kind god would do? Beheading war captives?
Also, below an example of a bible error and inconsistency --->
2 Samuel 8:3-4 says "David smote also Hadadezer...and took from him...seven hundred horsemen..."
1 Chronicles 18:3-4 says "David smote Hadarezer...and took from him...seven thousand horsemen..."
So the bible is corrupted and not pure. A third grader can write an essay with no errors. But the bible, inspired by "god" has so many mistakes. Source(s): ex-christian
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Jan
Temecula, CA
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This is from a former Muslims, he was a radical and friends with Dr. Ayman Al-Zawaherri who became later on the second in command of Al-Qaeda. He is now a Christian and reformer of Islam. http://www.tawfikhamid.com/... http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1236545525750... There is a certain schizophrenia among many Muslims who seem to believe that it is acceptable to teach hatred and violence in the name of their religion, while at the same time expecting the world to respect Islam as "a religion of peace, love and harmony." Scholars in the most prestigious Islamic institutes and universities continue to teach things like Jews are "pigs and monkeys," that women and men must be stoned to death for adultery, or that Muslims must fight the world to spread their religion. Isn't, then, Mr. Wilders's criticism appropriate? Instead of blaming him, we must blame the leading Islamic scholars for having failed to produce an authoritative book on Islamic jurisprudence that is accepted in the Islamic world and unambiguously rejects these violent teachings. While many religious texts preach violence, the interpretation, modern usage and implementation of these teachings make all the difference. For example,(click link above to read the rest)
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