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ALLAH GODZILLAH
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ALLAH CREATED SATAN oR SATAN CREATED ALLAH? Your opinions are welcome
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KIshor
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What do you want to mean?n plz change your name??
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ALLAH GODZILLAH
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KIshor wrote: What do you want to mean?n plz change your name?? Mohammed claiming to be the prophet of Allah perpetrated all crimes--looting caravans, killing innocent traders going with the caravans, killing men and raping their women (e.g. he killed the husbands of Rayhana, Juwarriya, Safiay and raped them). He killed 1000s of pagans simply because they are worshiping idols, he killed at least 10,000 Jews (when the total Arabian Jewish population was less than 30,000) simply because they did not accept this scoundrel (Mohammed) is Prophet. He killed, drove out or enslaved several 1000s of Christians and Jews. So the question remains HAS ALLAH CREATED SATAN oR SATAN CREATED ALLAH? Still I don't mind if Muslims believe that Allah is almighty provided: 1. Allah can be God, but Muslims also should respect idolators and polytheists. 2. They should quit Mohammed. Muslims must accept that Mohammed is not a prophet but only a hardcore criminal. 3. They should quit quran. Rather they should follow their conscience for what is good or bad.
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KIshor
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Do you have any prove?Plz explain me.I wanna see it.
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Please change your religon. KIshor wrote: What do you want to mean?n plz change your name??
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Ray of light
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ALLAH GODZILLAH wrote: ALLAH CREATED SATAN oR SATAN CREATED ALLAH?
Your opinions are welcome I think they are one. Satan always wanted to be worshipped as God.
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Tjeerd
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eXACTLY, Satan also know as Lucifer the fallen angel, he wanted to be worshiped by humans as God this is correct, although Satan was first, we he realized Muhammad was going for his deceit and took it hook like and sinker, Muhammad then sold his soul to the devil then they made up the name Allah from the pagan moon gods. Muhammad uncle middle name was Allah from the moon god, Allah does admit he is Satan hidden in the 99 names of Allah. Here you will see Allah tell us whom he really is..... 25 Al-Mudhell, The Giver of Dishonour 61 Al-Mumit, The Bringer of Death, The Destroyer 70 Al-Muqtadir The All Determiner, The Dominant, The Most Proud One 72 Al-Mu'akhir, The Delayer, The Great Deceiver, The Great Plotter 91 Ad-Darr The Distressor, The Harmer, THE AFFLICTOR This attribute can only be found in hadith. Job 2:7 You can see clearly whom Allah really is, not God creator of mankind inspiration of the Bible, but rather he is the fallen angel Lucifer. Allah has 99 names in Islam these are 6 of them where he clearly shows his true colors. Ray of light wrote: <quoted text>
I think they are one.
Satan always wanted to be worshipped as God.
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He is getting his day right now, but really he hates people thay are his pawns, that it! Each time a Muslims kills for Allah satan is certainly happy, and thet poor Muslims gave his life and soul to satan, really sad. Ray of light wrote: <quoted text>
I think they are one.
Satan always wanted to be worshipped as God.
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Tjeerd
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Again for you: 25 Al-Mudhell, The Giver of Dishonour 61 Al-Mumit, The Bringer of Death, The Destroyer 70 Al-Muqtadir The All Determiner, The Dominant, The Most Proud One 72 Al-Mu'akhir, The Delayer, The Great Deceiver, The Great Plotter 91 Ad-Darr The Distressor, The Harmer, THE AFFLICTOR This attribute can only be found in hadith. Job 2:7 KIshor wrote: Do you have any prove?Plz explain me.I wanna see it.
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It is simple to see the person decribed below Allah has not one attrribute to God of the Bible. Muslims say the Bible is in fact true, although our copies are currupted, although Muslims cannot claim what verses are currupted or how, to their surprise they will soon someday find that Angel Gabriel was really the falled angel we know of as satan. Think of this logic, The true angel Gabriel tells Mary she carries the son of God, and the Fasle angel Gabriel tells Muhammad Jesus is not the son of God, further proof the angel that met Muhammad was not the Angel Gabriel, but a fallen Angel as warned in the Bible in Corinthans II, Muhammad failed to heed this warning. Tjeerd wrote: Again for you:
25 Al-Mudhell, The Giver of Dishonour
61 Al-Mumit, The Bringer of Death, The Destroyer
70 Al-Muqtadir The All Determiner, The Dominant, The Most Proud One
72 Al-Mu'akhir, The Delayer, The Great Deceiver, The Great Plotter
91 Ad-Darr The Distressor, The Harmer, THE AFFLICTOR
This attribute can only be found in hadith. Job 2:7
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Northern Gryphon
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In Judaeo-Christian belief, God speaks to Prophets who, in turn, teach people. Angels are sent as messengers with private reveations to individuals; they do not teach Prophets. Furthermore, prophets, once enlightened, don't sin, become chaste, can perform miracles, and shun material riches or adulation and are most often killed by their own people. God's teachings come through them without being corrupted by Satan (not even a few verses). Muhammad, therefore cannot, by Judaeo-Christian standards, be called a Prophet of God.
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This is a great post and yes totally correct, no prophet of God would kill so many, Muhammad was simply a terrible man indeed! Northern Gryphon wrote: In Judaeo-Christian belief, God speaks to Prophets who, in turn, teach people. Angels are sent as messengers with private reveations to individuals; they do not teach Prophets.
Furthermore, prophets, once enlightened, don't sin, become chaste, can perform miracles, and shun material riches or adulation and are most often killed by their own people. God's teachings come through them without being corrupted by Satan (not even a few verses). Muhammad, therefore cannot, by Judaeo-Christian standards, be called a Prophet of God.
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Northern Gryphon wrote: In Judaeo-Christian belief, God speaks to Prophets who, in turn, teach people. Angels are sent as messengers with private reveations to individuals; they do not teach Prophets.
Furthermore, prophets, once enlightened, don't sin, become chaste, can perform miracles, and shun material riches or adulation and are most often killed by their own people. God's teachings come through them without being corrupted by Satan (not even a few verses). Muhammad, therefore cannot, by Judaeo-Christian standards, be called a Prophet of God. Moses was angry with the officers of the army--the commanders of thousands and commanders of hundreds--who returnedfrom the battle. "Have you allowed all the women to live?" he asked them. "They were the ones who followed Balaam's advice and were the means of turning the Israelites away from the LORD in what happened at Peor, so that a plague struck the LORD's people. Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man. Numbers 31:14-18
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Danetoo
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Simon DK wrote: <quoted text>
Moses was angry with the officers of the army--the
commanders of thousands and commanders of hundreds--who returnedfrom the battle. "Have you allowed all the women to live?" he asked them. "They were the ones who followed Balaam's advice and were the means of turning the Israelites
away from the LORD in what happened at Peor, so that a plague struck the LORD's people. Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.
Numbers 31:14-18 Oh how brilliant Simon ... fantastic find .. I am sure you can find far more brilliant quotes from the Bible proving how evil and satanic christianity really is ...... Go on then .. please?? (dripping with sarcasm obviously, but .. hey, in for a penny in for a pound)
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Oh Dearrrrrrrrrrrrrrr god (please stay away) 1. God drowns the whole earth. In Genesis 7:21–23, God drowns the entire population of the earth: men, women, children, and fetuses. Only a single family survives. In Matthew 24:37–42, gentle Jesus approves of this genocide and plans to repeat it when he returns. 2. God kills half a million people. In 2 Chronicles 13:15–18, God helps the men of Judah kill 500,000 of their fellow Israelites. 3. God slaughters all Egyptian firstborn. In Exodus 12:29, God kills all Egyptian firstborn children and cattle because their king was stubborn. 4. God kills 14,000 people for complaining that God keeps killing them. In Numbers 16:41–49, the Israelites complain that God is killing too many of them. So, God sends a plague that kills 14,000 more of them. 5. Genocide after genocide after genocide. In Joshua 6:20–21, God helps the Israelites destroy Jericho, killing “men and women, young and old, cattle, sheep and donkeys.” In Deuteronomy 2:32–35, God has the Israelites kill everyone in Heshbon, including children, and plunder the country. In Deuteronomy 3:3–7, God has the Israelites do the same to the people of Bashan. In Numbers 31:7–18, the Israelites kill all the Midianites except for the virgins, whom they take as spoils of war. In 1 Samuel 15:1–9, God tells the Israelites to kill all the Amalekites—men, women, children, infants, and their cattle—for something the Amalekites' ancestors had done 400 years ago. 6. God kills 50,000 people for curiosity. In 1 Samuel 6:19, God kills 50,000 men for peeking into the ark of the covenant.2 7. 3,000 Israelites killed for inventing a god. In Exodus 32, Moses has climbed Mount Sinai to get the Ten Commandments. The Israelites are bored, so they invent a golden calf god. Moses comes back and God commands him:“Each man strap a sword to his side. Go back and forth through the camp from one end to the other, each killing his brother and friend and neighbor.” About 3,000 people died. 8. Amorites destroyed by sword and God's rocks. In Joshua 10:10–11, God helps the Israelites slaughter the Amorites by sword, then finishes them off with rocks from the sky. 9. God burns two cities to death. In Genesis 19:24, God kills everyone in Sodom and Gomorrah with fire from the sky. Then God kills Lot’s wife for looking back at her burning home. 10. God has 42 children mauled by bears. In 2 Kings 2:23–24, some kids tease the prophet Elisha, and God sends bears to maul them.
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Danetoo wrote: <quoted text>
Oh how brilliant Simon ... fantastic find ..
I am sure you can find far more brilliant quotes from the Bible proving how evil and satanic christianity really is ......
Go on then .. please??
(dripping with sarcasm obviously, but .. hey, in for a penny in for a pound) LOL..The bible (the OT) is full of gory stuff, but since Im not as daft as the bible- or Quran-bashers in here, I dont believe that you can prove much about any religion by looking at single quotes out of context... But if you're ready to critisize the prophets of other religions, you shouldnt be blind for the fact that the same logic can be used on the prophets of your own religion... Its the way you as an individual puts your religion to practice that defines your religion... Not what anyone else claims is the true or false version of that religion...
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Simon DK wrote: <quoted text>
LOL..The bible (the OT) is full of gory stuff, but since Im not as daft as the bible- or Quran-bashers in here, I dont believe that you can prove much about any religion by looking at single quotes out of context...
But if you're ready to critisize the prophets of other religions, you shouldnt be blind for the fact that the same logic can be used on the prophets of your own religion...
Its the way you as an individual puts your religion to practice that defines your religion... Not what anyone else claims is the true or false version of that religion... Now Simon ..... not all of us have had religion mixed in with the mother milk, my dear..... As you know I am for freedom of religion and for freedom of just pure old life etc...... but C'mon man, aren't you taking it to he extreame here ???
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Lusen wrote: <quoted text>Now Simon ..... not all of us have had religion mixed in with the mother milk, my dear.....
As you know I am for freedom of religion and for freedom of just pure old life etc...... but C'mon man, aren't you taking it to he extreame here ??? Which bit?
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Jan
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Great post... NEO HITLER wrote: JUDAISM [OLD TESTAMENT], CHRISTIANITY [NEW TESTAMENT], AND ISLAM
I want to clarify a few things:
Judaism -- Several evils = Islam
Judaism + Several evils = Islam
Old Testament is Judaism. New Testament is Christianity.
Old Testament rules are immaterial for Christianity.
Even in New Testament, many rules were invented by the Disciples and Apostles after the death of Jesus. So what exactly Jesus said matters.
In fact, Christ was sentenced to death because he denounced the harsh rules of Judaism [Old Testament]. So for Christianity, Old Testament rules are immaterial.
Christ is basically reformer. Compared to what existed in Old Testament, he brought about a substantial positive change, though Christianity is not perfect.
Look at Christ as a reformer, not from the present day perspective, but from the perspective of 2000 years back. Then you find a great reformer.
Jesus is God, Jesus is son of God, Jesus is prophet, Jesus will save you, etc refer to a different [religious] dimension, which I am not interested...[if you are interested in that dimension, I am not against you].
As a reformer he is great [for 2000 years back]. Jesus made several positive reforms over Judaism, compared to his times.
Mohammed, on the other hand retained all the evil aspects of Judaism, and then added some more evils and created Islam.
The following are the differences between Judaism and Christianity.
Judaism: Eye for an eye.
Christianity: If someone slaps you on the left cheek, turn the right. Forgive you enemy even until 77 times.
Judaism: Circumcision is Compulsory in Judaism and Islam
Christianity: Not mandatory [optional]. You heart is that matters than whether you are circumcised or not.
Judaism: Is limited to Jews by birth [conversions into Judaism are rare]
Christianity: Change in heart is more important than mere official conversion. No force should be used to convert.
Islam: Convert or behead
Judaism and Christianity: Women are asked to wear scarf like veil while in the society, but it is not a complete covering.
Islam: Completely covering Burqua, often a dark one.
Judaism and Islam: Stone the adulterer or adulteress to death.
Christianity: Nobody is without sin, so you cannot stone an adulterer or adulteress to death. Forgive them and insist on change.
Christianity: Only one wife or one husband is allowed.
Islam: 4 wives and any number of concubines and slave girls.
Christianity: You cannot steal or loot others prosperities—believers or unbelievers.
Islam: you cannot loot or steal from other Muslims. But you can loot and steal from unbelievers.
Christianity: Love thy enemy including unbelievers.
Islam: Muslims should be friends to one another, and should be harsh towards unbelievers.
Christianity: There is no mandatory principle to go to pilgrimage.
Islam: Hajj is mandatory at least once in the life time of a Muslim.
Christianity: You cannot rape anyone.
Islam: You cannot rape a Muslim woman. But you can rape non-Muslims.
Christianity: He who wields a sword will die by sword.
Islam: Fight against unbelievers until Allah is the only God and Islam is he only religion. Slay the idolaters wherever you find them.
[I am not proponent of Christianity, since I am rationalist. Christianity has its own drawbacks from the rationalist point of view. Nevertheless Christianity moved several steps forward compared to the theologies of its time. Even Jews got modernized or reformed over time on their own. But Islam went several strides backwards.]
ALL THE RELIGIONS, INCLUDING CHRISTIANITY, SHOULD BE GRADUALLY RATIONALISED AND REFORMED FURTHER. BUT I DOUBT ISLAM CAN EVER UNDERGO SUCH A RATIONALASATION AND REFORMATION. ALL THE RELIGIONS CHANGED OVER TIME. BUT ISLAM IS GETTING WORSE DAY BY DAY.
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Jan wrote: Great post...
<quoted text> Nice... you're giving props to Neo Hitler... Well done, Jan
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