turkish film fetih 1453 causes outrage among greeks

Proud to be Turkish wrote:

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I rest my case. Not just against us Turks. Also, Europe racist against Africans, Asians, Jews, and many other cultures where Europeans think that they don't should not be accepted, yet there was huge opposition against Nazis in Europe whom built the machine of racism in Europe in 1940's. Why the Nazis were fought against? Weren't they racist enough? Also, Europeans fought each other as well to the bitter end for centuries. Why is there such acceptance among specially Germans, British, and all other European countries? Is religious opinion that important or is it all economic or both? From what I have observed in past twenty years, the countries with questionable economic backgrounds and high unemployment rate like Poland, Romania, Estonia and such were accepted with full EU privileges and they all were post Soviet iron curtain countries. So what is the common denominator? Why Europe or Greece for that matter are so bluntly racist to Turks or other certain cultures where I mentioned earlier? What is EU afraid of or tring to prevent? Is it Islam? Is it the past conquest of Ottomans? What is it?

Proud to be Turkish wrote:

No, they are not the direct result of Islamic religion. However, all cultures have their own certain issues. Don't Greeks have any cultural issues within Greece? One thing that bothers Turks and is probably the most important of all that Kurdish and Armenian notion of creating an independent Kurdish and Armenian States within the national borders of Turkey and that can not be allowed at least not while I am and other Turkish patriots are alive. Because, it has been earned with Turkish Soldiers and Nationalists blood back in 1920's. When Ottoman Empire was breaking apart, all the western cultures wanted a piece of the dying empire. Us Turks are determined people and can not and will not live under no other nations dictatorship. A country can not be established without bleeding for it first. Our history is filled with glory and we are proud of it. I am sure you Greeks have certain historical moments that you all can be proud of. Bottom line is, we are who we are and our land is our land. As far as the Cyprus goes, you have south and we have north Cyprus. We can all live in peace if we choose to.

greek wrote:

<quoted text>Racism in Europe?against the Turks?
Wonder why

Dervis Eroglu wrote:

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Because of @unts like you who keep giving us a bad name with your hateful propaganda.

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greek wrote:

<quoted text>Racism in Europe?against the Turks?
Wonder why

greek wrote:

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First you blame the Greeks for all your problems and now you blame me!

Dervis Eroglu wrote:

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You are a Greek aren't you?

greek wrote:

<quoted text>What do you think?

Dervis Eroglu wrote:

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Got much better things to do, I dont have time to think about you.

greek wrote:

<quoted text>You spend all day on this forum posting bullshit,and you don't have the time?

Themistocles wrote:

<quoted text>That's all good and well, Turkey should not be dictated to by any Country, however Turkey is dictating to the TC's, GC's, Greece, Israel and others, also posturing and attempting to intimidate. It just can't work this way, other countries and peoples also have their pride, culture and need to defend themselves, and have bled as you say fighting for their freedom. Turkey's politicians are the ones who matter and need to send the right signals, not threats. Cyprus for Cypriots would be a start.

Proud to be Turkish wrote:

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I don't disagree that we do need the right government reform and it has been getting better since 70s. We are a peaceful culture however, we can not allow separatist movements from Kurds and such like PKK. This is not any different than your belief of Cyprus is for Cypriots or Greece is for Greeks. However, Turks in Cyprus do want to live in peace with the Greeks in Cyprus. If all the sides agree, we wouldn't even need borders in Cyprus. That's how we should think. I personally find Greeks and Turks not that different . I also believe that religious opinion should come second or third even.

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Tahsin wrote:

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The man you called Barbarian had a Greek mother, could speak 7 languages, was very well-educated, and successfully raised Ottomans from a state into an empire.
If Mehmet was a Barbarian, so was Alexander. What do you think: in the pre-modern era monarchs forged empires without conquering lands in wars, along the way many people being killed and many women being raped?

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Observer wrote:

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Sure. He was taken by force from his Greek mother's hands. A Turkish speciality at the time. His mother was probably butchered by the Turkish butchers. You raised him up as a Turk and tought him to hate all Greeks.(Gennitsari). You gave him a military education, and made him an officer in the Turkish army. You sent him to fight and kill as many Greeks as possible. You married him to a nice Turkish girl from the upper class. They had many children. This is very common story because the Greek children forcefully taken from their mothers then were in to the thousands.
In a very bizare way this was probably the wisest thing you ever did throughout your bloody history. Unknowingly you enriched your common attilla blood with Greek blood. To your own words, it took one of these Greek children(Gennitsari)to raise the Ottomans from a state to an empire.His children within and without his marriage were as mutch Greek as Turkish. And come to think of it No Turk of today can be absolutely sure that he does not carry Greek blood and this includes yourself!

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Tahsin wrote:

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Another Greek moron. You touch one of this idiots and he begins uttering the typical Greeks crap. Let's try to educate this Greek idiot, although my past experience says it will probably be in vain:
1) Are you even aware whom you are talking about? Do you know who Mehmet the Conquerer is? He is the Ottoman Sultan you fcuking Greek idiot. His father was Sultan Selim. No one picked him up from his family; he was born and had grown up in Ottoman palace, raised as the future Sultan.
2) Let's come to mixing our Turkish blood with Greek filth. Of course you idiot also do not know that Yeniceris (Christians kids raised as Muslims and recruited to Ottoman army) WERE NOT ALLOWED TO MARRY OR HAVE KIDS. So have no worries; we took the necessary precaution not to poison our Turkish bloodline with your Greek filth. You were our slaves, and to us Greek blood was and is and will always be as worthy as shit.

Tahsin wrote:

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Another Greek moron. You touch one of this idiots and he begins uttering the typical Greeks crap. Let's try to educate this Greek idiot, although my past experience says it will probably be in vain:
1) Are you even aware whom you are talking about? Do you know who Mehmet the Conquerer is? He is the Ottoman Sultan you fcuking Greek idiot. His father was Sultan Selim. No one picked him up from his family; he was born and had grown up in Ottoman palace, raised as the future Sultan.
2) Let's come to mixing our Turkish blood with Greek filth. Of course you idiot also do not know that Yeniceris (Christians kids raised as Muslims and recruited to Ottoman army) WERE NOT ALLOWED TO MARRY OR HAVE KIDS. So have no worries; we took the necessary precaution not to poison our Turkish bloodline with your Greek filth. You were our slaves, and to us Greek blood was and is and will always be as worthy as shit.

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onur wrote:

i liked that comment Istanbul is ours.You can never change this!Do you know the fact that Turkish Armed Forces can attack and conquer Athens in a few days.You have no money no enough power.Even EU wanna dismiss you.I am studying in US and all Americans not Turkish guys say that Greece is bankrupted.They are kidding with Greek people.Poor Greek people.

MKZ6 wrote:

<quoted text>kid study history,mussolini said he will have coffee in athens in a week do you know what happen ?the Greeks pushed them back into Albania and if was for the Germans comming full force from the Russian front Greeks could have coffee in Rome.make the move lots of people around Turkey wait for that moment ,the list is ,the kurds love to see you attacking Greece ,Armenia take back their lands ,Iran ditto,Syria Hattay ,IsraEL just wants to kick your asss,Bulgaria ,Russia,France ,and many others, even people from Mars want a piece of Turkey.you got couple liras and you think you are a superpower,Kid Turkey better cooldown before have a repeat of fall of the Ottoman Empire.any way the Kurds will get a state they are 1/5 of your population they deserve indepentance.kido Greece is bankrupt today retire people make more money than the workers in Turkey thats bad man ,good economy and you pay your people penuts check on line/.