Live long in Loma Linda

I sure wish Loma Linda would start selling hard alcochol, I hate seeing people leave church and have to buy a 24 pack of beer, rather than a bottle of vodka.

messenger4truth wrote:

In order to know what are the best foods, we must study God's original plan for man's diet. He who created man
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and who understands his needs appointed Adam his food. "Behold," He said, "I have given you every herb yielding seed,... and every tree, in which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for food." Genesis 1:29, A.R.V. Upon leaving Eden to gain his livelihood by tilling the earth under the curse of sin, man received permission to eat also "the herb of the field." Genesis 3:18.
Grains, fruits, nuts, and vegetables constitute the diet chosen for us by our Creator. These foods, prepared in as simple and natural a manner as possible, are the most healthful and nourishing. They impart a strength, a power of endurance, and a vigor of intellect that are not afforded by a more complex and stimulating diet.
http://www.egwtext.whiteestate.org/mh/mh23.ht...

Receive one who is weak in the faith, but not to disputes over doubtful things. 2 For one believes he may eat all things, but he who is weak eats only vegetables.

14 I know and am convinced by the Lord Jesus that there is nothing unclean of itself; but to him who considers anything to be unclean, to him it is unclean. 15 Yet if your brother is grieved because of your food, you are no longer walking in love. Do not destroy with your food the one for whom Christ died. 16 Therefore do not let your good be spoken of as evil; 17 for the kingdom of God is not eating and drinking, but righteousness and peace and joy in the Holy Spirit. 18 For he who serves Christ in these things[e]is acceptable to God and approved by men. Rom 14

The Great Apostasy
1 Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons, 2 speaking lies in hypocrisy, having their own conscience seared with a hot iron, 3 forbidding to marry,

and commanding to abstain from foods which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth.

4 For every creature of God is good, and nothing is to be refused if it is received with thanksgiving; 5 for it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.
1 Tim 4-1

Bible Thumper Alert!

Lay Worker wrote:

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To CINDERS
You are sharing above lies and much foolishness and surmising about LW and no evidence of your claims. LW has NEVER (note never) made the statement you have today that LW and Co. are the remnant of the woman's seed. That is bearing false witness against your neighbor. Its a bald faced lie. For you to write such mischief is disgusting and only shows your ability to share truth and accuracy of truth. Your current lies shows one more thing - you know little of what you speak about and no more can you be trusted. You have breached a trust by saying this today.
They who are the remnant of the woman's seed - That is for God to decide in the LBOL. You are wrong once more to even suggest the serpent is out to wage war with all of God's people. Rev 12:17 does not say this.
The dragon is wrath with the woman but goes to make war with the remnant of the woman's seed.
Unless you become much more accurate your pathetic assumptions and rants will remain that - pathetic and inaccurate. What you are saying is God's call in Matt 25 to go ye out to a meeting of the Bridegroom is folly and untrue. You have neutralized the light of the Everlasting Gospel by your remarks this day.
Its no wonder Paul said women were to keep silent in the churches.
You are precisely that example of 1 Cor 14:34
Go now, drink with the drunken, indulge to your hearts content in the harlotry of apostasy.

And something for me to think about also....

Jesus did not suppress one word of truth, but He uttered it always in love. He exercised the greatest tact and thoughtful, kind attention in His intercourse with the people. He was never rude, never needlessly spoke a severe word, never gave needless pain to a sensitive soul. He did not censure human weakness. He spoke the truth, but always in love. Steps to Christ, p. 12

.....and He, Jesus is our example in everything, even with the way seem.

Sorry for offending and upsetting you, I could have handled it differently.

I should have wrote ...

.....and He, Jesus is our example in everything, even with the way we handle peoples postings on this forum as trivial as they may seem.

:)...

CINDERS wrote:

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And something for me to think about also....
Jesus did not suppress one word of truth, but He uttered it always in love. He exercised the greatest tact and thoughtful, kind attention in His intercourse with the people. He was never rude, never needlessly spoke a severe word, never gave needless pain to a sensitive soul. He did not censure human weakness. He spoke the truth, but always in love. Steps to Christ, p. 12
.....and He, Jesus is our example in everything, even with the way seem.
Sorry for offending and upsetting you, I could have handled it differently.

You were called for lying about LW and ALF
making a total misrepresentation

Jesus never bore false witness
Jesus never told a lie

Lay Worker wrote:

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You were called for lying about LW and ALF
making a total misrepresentation
Jesus never bore false witness
Jesus never told a lie

What exactly was the lie? Explain what is the lie and what is not.

And while you are at it please tell me, for I am waiting to know what and how I breached your trust????

Thank you,

Cinders.

Evidently - you are dull of hearing and blinded by your own self importance here that you cannot see the bunch of lies you posted in #17 about LW and ALF.

For you to ask this question in #29
is why women should not speak in church.

The saved person is described as being "in the Spirit" (Romans 8:9) and he is no longer in the realm of the flesh (Romans 8:9). He is indwelt by the Holy Spirit of God. His life is dominated by the Person and Presence of God the Holy Spirit, and even when he is not walking rightly the Spirit will make His grieved presence known (Ephesians 4:30).

The saved person’s life in totality cannot be said to be dominated by the flesh. He may fall into sin but he will not persist in sin (1 John chapter 3). By the Spirit’s conviction, by confession and if needed by chastening (1 Cor.11:31-32) he is brought back to the path of obedience. The believer at any given time may manifest any of the works of the flesh (Galatians 5:19-21) but his life will not be dominated by the works of the flesh because "they which do (present tense--‘keep on doing’; those who persist in these things) shall not inherit the kingdom of God" (Gal. 5:21 and compare 1 Cor.6:9-11 and Ephesians 5:5).

At the same time the Bible makes it clear that the true believer can be controlled by the flesh. Romans chapter 8 does not deal with this but Romans 13:12-14 does. See also 1 Corinthians 3:1-3 and Galatians 5:16-25. It’s a terrible abnormality for a believer who is "in the Spirit" to walk as the man who is "in the flesh" and for a new creature in Christ to walk as a mere, unregenerate man (1 Cor. 3:3), but sadly, it does happen.
Mind" = set their mind upon (see this verb used in Matt.16:23 and Col. 3:2). "After the flesh"--this refers to those who are dominated by their sinful Adam-like natures (see chart above). Verse 6 should be translated "for the minding of the flesh is death; but the minding of the Spirit is life and peace" (compare Romans 6:21-23).

Romans 8:7
"Because the carnal mind (the minding of the flesh) is enmity against God." The flesh is always against God. The flesh is God’s enemy. "Subject" = submissive. The flesh is not submissive. Instead it rebels against God. It revolts against God and against God’s law. An illustration of this is found in Numbers 14:9-10,27-29,40-44 (If God goes with us we won’t go! If God does not go with us we will go! Whatever God says we will do the opposite!). "Neither is it able"--the flesh is unable to be submissive. It’s impossible for the flesh to submit to God. Man’s sinful flesh (man’s sinful nature) is non-submissive
Romans 8:9
"Ye" is emphatic ("YE" in contrast to those who are in the flesh). You (plural) are not in the flesh! You can please God! Every saved person is "IN THE SPIRIT" and every unsaved person is "IN THE FLESH." Every believer is "spiritual" in the sense that he HAS the Spirit (see Jude 19). "Dwell" = make his home in you. Your body is the Spirit’s house or dwelling place or holy temple (1 Cor. 6:19-20).

Paul is saying here that YOU ARE IN THE SPIRIT IF THE SPIRIT IS IN YOU! If the Spirit is not in you then you are in the flesh (unsaved). "Any man" = anyone. "He is none of His" = he (this person who does not have the Spirit) is not "of Him" that is, he does not belong to Christ, he is not His, he is not a Christian, thus he is unsaved. By implication this verse clearly teaches us that every true Christian is indwelt by the Holy Spirit. If a person is saved then he is INDWELT by the Holy Spirit and he is in (the realm of) the Spirit. Every single believer in Christ receives the Holy Spirit on the one condition of faith in Christ (John 7:37-39). There is no such thing as a true believer who does not have the Holy Spirit. The true Christian is no longer "in the flesh" (in the realm of the flesh). He is not in the flesh but the flesh is in him (Rom.7:18). Note how the Holy Spirit is referred to: "Spirit" "Spirit of God" "Spirit of Christ."

Verse 9 says that the Spirit is in you.
Verse 10 says that Christ is in you (see also John 14:17,20).

Which is it? God is love, love thy neighbor, stop bickering!

CINDERS wrote:

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Hi M4T,
You wrote talking to Terrilyn :
M4t> Your sin is presumption and ignorance, pride and arrogance. Spewing your own judgment on God's church is found in these scriptures.
REV 12V 17 And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood.
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Now that make sense - doesn't it! It sure does!
For the remnant is Gods people, so from knowing how the ALF [Lay Worker and Terrilyn and co believe] they believe the mainline SDA church has been spewed by God Himself and that God is no longer with them [the church] and that is why it is full of all evil and unclean and whatever else you can name - and God is now only with those very, very, very small number which is the remnant of "her seed" see where they are coming from - the remnant is no longer the woman [the mainline church] it has been spew by God and now the remnant is that which is of her seed- "of her seed" - that is who they [LW and co] are! That is what they believe, that satan [in our time now] is not making war with the SDA Church but with them the "remnant of her seed" - not even the seed BUT the remnant of her seed.
Now that is how they believe - the ALF is the remnant of her seed - the remnant is NO LONGER the Mainline SDA Church or the seed but the remnant of her seed = they believe that they are [ the ALF - Lay Worker and Co ] are the remnant of her seed. The last.
REV 12V 17 And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood.
You are right M4T the serpent is out to rage war against all of Gods people and he shall come from all angles to tear and attack Gods people and cause them to go off into what ever strange beliefs for he does not care as long as he can cause division and separate Gods people so that all they care about doing is arguing over what ever, he does not care. As long he separates and causes them to be separated from God. Now this is sad.
Thank you for your postings,
Cinders :-)

Cinders you are making false statements again! How long are you going to misrepresent the beliefs of the ALF and then you say you are not agaisnt us this is guile it is 20:16 Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour. hOW LONG ARE YOU GOING TO KEEP THIS UP.

ALF people have mever made such a statement please do not say so without proving the statements you have made and show just where anyone of us has said we are the remnant of the womans seed. Show it or shut up Cinders I personally am tired of you saying you are not against us yet you keep speaking GUILE against us when ever you try to say what we beleive tht we believe about who we are.

Terrilyn wrote:

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Cinders you are making false statements again! How long are you going to misrepresent the beliefs of the ALF and then you say you are not agaisnt us this is guile it is 20:16 Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour. hOW LONG ARE YOU GOING TO KEEP THIS UP.
ALF people have mever made such a statement please do not say so without proving the statements you have made and show just where anyone of us has said we are the remnant of the womans seed. Show it or shut up Cinders I personally am tired of you saying you are not against us yet you keep speaking GUILE against us when ever you try to say what we beleive tht we believe about who we are.

Shut up hey hmmmm beautiful christian words there my dear.

When are you going to tell me what I do not agree with the ALF on?

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Every day that passes brings us nearer the end. Does it bring us also near to God? Are we watching unto prayer? Those with whom we associate day by day need our help, our guidance. They may be in such a condition of mind that a word in season will be sent home by the Holy Spirit as a nail in a sure place. Tomorrow some of these souls may be where we can never reach them again. What is our influence over these fellow travelers? What effort do we make to win them to Christ?[9T 27]

my purpose was not to tell you to (as you put it) Shut Up....You took a thread about the Blue Zone and turned it into a bicker-fest...It's obvious that you didn't read nor understand the scripture that I posted before you piped up and wanted to continue droning on....

What part of the fruits don't you understand?
Peace? Love? Forbearance? Kindness? Patience? Kindness?
Or are they instead, Strife? Division? Hopelessness? Bickering? No peace?

Galatians 6:1 –“Brothers, if anyone is caught in any transgression, you who are spiritual should restore him in a spirit of gentleness.

It may help to spend some time in the Word and renew your Spirit....

Shalom....
Anyone want to get back to the Blue Zone thread?