New ads roll out Monday condemning smoking in cars with kids

fluteman greg wrote:

<quoted text>Speaking only for myself. I wouldn't run from an anti for anything. Rather I would stand there and laugh right in their nazi face.
What do I live for? I live for showing the world about the nazi antis and how un-American and un-Patriotic they are.
My brain power would do laps around yours.

You sound tough and rough on the forum, but I bet you are a yellow puss in real life. Keep on smoking, prove you have no will power and remain a simple addict, most of us couldn't care less.

fluteman greg wrote:

<quoted text>Are you a pothead? Most potheads are paranoid. Aloxety and I are not the same person.
I wouldn't let my kids be involved with ANYTHING you had something to do with. Any person who can't see/understand the LACK of logic and common sense with respect to your claim that a kid basically "smokes" a pack and half of cigs. for every hour exposed to SHS in a car. Buddy.... you have issues. Seek professional help.

Of course they are, same simple attitude, writing is the same, and it is the cowardly thing to do, and seems a few on here do that. I guess it is the only way they feel they can carry any clout is to pat themselves on the back, meanwhile fooling some into thinking that "other posters" are in agreement. Ones like Big Dummy they are easy to fool.

just candid wrote:

I doubt if the average smoker keeps all the windows rolled down when they go out with their kids tied up in a car seat. If it were during the summer I think they would have the AC on, and in the winter with the tempature sometimes down in the single digits, chances are it would be rather chilly. Even during good weather the windows as a rule are not all down. When in town people should have the windows mostly rolled up and the doors locked. If they are out on the highway with the windows open you know durn well bits of ash are likely blow back onto the kids, or worse yet into their eyes. Sure, if as NCF says ALL the windows are open, and you are driving 60 mph you won't have a lot of SHS in the car, but we all know that's not the way it is in real life.

We mostly stayed in the little town where my in-laws live, but on one of the really hot, muggy, and ultimately rainy days, we went to Utica.

Before the rain, there were plenty of people driving with their windows down, and several were visibly smoking.(I did not see kids in these vehicles, BTW.)

One guy, a passenger, was holding his cigarette out by the side view mirror.

I guess none of those people "know that's not the way it is in real life." Someone should tell them. ;-)

Did they continue to drive with their windows open when the rain started? I doubt it. They likely took a final drag, then flicked the remainder of their cigarette out into the street and closed their windows. But that's only a guess, based on what I've seen done before.

Harley-Honey wrote:

Of course they are, same simple attitude, writing is the same, and it is the cowardly thing to do, and seems a few on here do that. I guess it is the only way they feel they can carry any clout is to pat themselves on the back, meanwhile fooling some into thinking that "other posters" are in agreement.

Writing is the same? What are you talking about? I've never called anyone a nazi, and FG's never tried to diagnose your schizophrenia.

Like this:

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/paranoid-sch...

Early signs and symptoms of schizophrenia — such as social withdrawal, unusual behaviors, anxiety and decline in daily functional abilities — may begin gradually before the primary symptoms of schizophrenia, known collectively as psychosis, are manifested. But disease onset may also be acute with the sudden appearance of psychosis.

Delusions and auditory hallucinations are the prominent psychotic symptoms in people with paranoid schizophrenia.

Delusions
When people have delusions, they believe something to be true that essentially no one else in their culture believes. A person with paranoid schizophrenia misinterprets experiences and then holds on to those interpretations despite evidence or reasoning to the contrary.

Delusions are commonly focused on the perception of being persecuted and often result in the mistrust of other people:

* The FBI is spying on me.
* Someone is poisoning my food.
* My thoughts are being broadcast over the radio.

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I could add: Those two posters on a message board are the same person.

just candid wrote:

<quoted text> You sound tough and rough on the forum, but I bet you are a yellow puss in real life. Keep on smoking, prove you have no will power and remain a simple addict, most of us couldn't care less.

I would NEVER run from some weenie nazi anti. You must be joking.

Killer Plants wrote:

Non Cas Fan and the other fools on here.
its clear to all that read your post your a Tobacco Spokesperson or a total selfish fool.

There the rANTIS go again. Just because we have facts that don't agree with their "facts" of fiction, we are paid lackeys for BT.

The rANTIS always cop this plea when they're losing a debate.

As a matter of fact, there quite a few people that have been accused of being paid lackeys for BT, and when asked to present the proof, they cower. The rANTI alphabet orgs are famous for doing this. They regularly accuse Dr. Michael Siegel of being on BT's payroll. However, they never present any proof.

So, if a rANTI accuses any of the smokers on these forums of being on BT Payroll; take it as a compliment. Their accusations mean you are winning the debate.

just candid wrote:

<quoted text> You sound tough and rough on the forum, but I bet you are a yellow puss in real life. Keep on smoking, prove you have no will power and remain a simple addict, most of us couldn't care less.

Will power only comes in to play if you're actually trying to quit smoking. If you're not attempting to quit, the accusation of no will power is moot.

just candid wrote:

I doubt if the average smoker keeps all the windows rolled down when they go out with their kids tied up in a car seat. If it were during the summer I think they would have the AC on

Is there some kind of law that you can't use AC or heat with the windows down?

ROFLMAO@U

Harley-Honey wrote:

<quoted text>
Of course they are, same simple attitude, writing is the same, and it is the cowardly thing to do, and seems a few on here do that. I guess it is the only way they feel they can carry any clout is to pat themselves on the back, meanwhile fooling some into thinking that "other posters" are in agreement. Ones like Big Dummy they are easy to fool.

You're such a doofus and obviously paranoid. But we already know that since you're a pothead. NOW HEAR THIS!!!! Fluteman Greg IS NOT Aloxety.

bdjunker wrote:

<quoted text>
Is there some kind of law that you can't use AC or heat with the windows down?
ROFLMAO@U

Exactly. There are MANY times I drive with my window cracked for SHS to escape (no kids in the car) while I have the AC on. There are also many times when it's bitter cold outside and I still have the window cracked while smoking.

I always drive with my window down about 3 inches. It pulls the air or heat directly to you. Hey, I guess that means that the air in the car is being sucked out the window. What a novel idea!

Been There wrote:

I always drive with my window down about 3 inches. It pulls the air or heat directly to you. Hey, I guess that means that the air in the car is being sucked out the window. What a novel idea!

Precisely. Whether I'm driving with my AC on or just the vent open, the window being cracked definitely pulls more air directly on you. Actually, it draws so much air on you that if I am smoking I redirect the vents away from me so I don't get a windstorm in my face while smoking and/or ashes everywhere. The SHS can visibly be seen flowing out the crack in the window without practically a trace left in the car.

Apparently Killer Plants has admitted defeat in his outlandish claim that a kid exposed to SHS for an hour in a car is equal to the kid smoking a pack and a half of cigarettes. I don't blame you KP.... the math doesn't work out. However, I would have NEVER made such an outlandish claim to begin with, but I do realize that's what antis do.

Fron the anti smoking website funded by RWJF LOL, notice the immune part lol

Vaccine Derived from Tobacco Plants Could Fight Lymphoma
July 24, 2008

A group of researchers have found that a personalized vaccine that can be made using tobacco plants actually could help patients with lymphoma in fighting off their illness, Reuters reported July 21.

"Using tobacco to treat cancer — I love it," said Ron Levy, M.D., of the Stanford University School of Medicine, head of a research team that studied the potential of a genetically engineered tobacco plant to treat a non-Hodgkin's lymphoma called follicular B-cell lymphoma.

The research team added an antibody gene from a lymphoma patient's cancer cells to a virus that normally attacks tobacco plants, then infected the plants with this altered virus. Levy explained that when this happened, the plants became protein-producing factories. Injection of the protein into 16 lymphoma patients subsequently resulted in 70 percent of them developing an immune response, he said.

Scientists have a great deal of interest in developing vaccines from plants because the process is much quicker and less expensive than that of generating the vaccines in animals. Future research will be needed to determine whether the vaccine derived from tobacco could work as a full-fledged cancer treatment.

"This would be a way to treat cancer without side effects," Levy said. "The idea is to marshal the body's own immune system to fight cancer."

The research from Levy and colleagues appears in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.
This article summarizes an external report or press release on research published in a scientific journal. When available, links to the sources are provided above.

http://www.jointogether.org/news/research/sum...

fluteman greg wrote:

Apparently Killer Plants has admitted defeat in his outlandish claim that a kid exposed to SHS for an hour in a car is equal to the kid smoking a pack and a half of cigarettes. I don't blame you KP.... the math doesn't work out. However, I would have NEVER made such an outlandish claim to begin with, but I do realize that's what antis do.

The really sad part is KP must have accepted that nonsense without question.

How does one become so blind? Man...was that obvious.

Freedom wrote:

<quoted text>
The really sad part is KP must have accepted that nonsense without question.
How does one become so blind? Man...was that obvious.

Agreed. LOL! Obvious is an understatement. Like I've said many times... antis are their own worse enemy. Apparently they don't read and think through their own ridiculous propoganda.

fluteman greg wrote:

<quoted text>Precisely. Whether I'm driving with my AC on or just the vent open, the window being cracked definitely pulls more air directly on you. Actually, it draws so much air on you that if I am smoking I redirect the vents away from me so I don't get a windstorm in my face while smoking and/or ashes everywhere. The SHS can visibly be seen flowing out the crack in the window without practically a trace left in the car.

Wrong again, again no surprise you make a habit out of being wrong. I have been in a car many times with a smoker, and not only do I freeze my ass off, I also get the smoke, he doesn't.And tossing a cigarette out the window can be devastating, and you have to be a real idiot to do that sort of thing. Of course most smokers are only concerned with that cigarette, so to hell with anything else.
I am not an anti, what a silly juvenile word, used by an extremely limited mind.
I am against smoking though. That does not make me an anti (lol)....it makes me smart, and health conscious.

Aloxety wrote:

<quoted text>
Writing is the same? What are you talking about? I've never called anyone a nazi, and FG's never tried to diagnose your schizophrenia.
Like this:
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/paranoid-sch...
Early signs and symptoms of schizophrenia — such as social withdrawal, unusual behaviors, anxiety and decline in daily functional abilities — may begin gradually before the primary symptoms of schizophrenia, known collectively as psychosis, are manifested. But disease onset may also be acute with the sudden appearance of psychosis.
Delusions and auditory hallucinations are the prominent psychotic symptoms in people with paranoid schizophrenia.
Delusions
When people have delusions, they believe something to be true that essentially no one else in their culture believes. A person with paranoid schizophrenia misinterprets experiences and then holds on to those interpretations despite evidence or reasoning to the contrary.
Delusions are commonly focused on the perception of being persecuted and often result in the mistrust of other people:
* The FBI is spying on me.
* Someone is poisoning my food.
* My thoughts are being broadcast over the radio.
---
I could add: Those two posters on a message board are the same person.

OOOH touched a nerve did I Aloxety/Flutey?!!!
I am surprised, did not think it possible.
LMFCLAO!

fluteman greg wrote:

<quoted text>My balls do not consider hazardous waste as being lucky. That seems rather odd that you would, but then again you're about as odd as they come.

Flutey...you dreamer, I do believe you have no balls so my comment was to give you a boost. What you have is two wrinkled up raisins. You are too effeminate for balls, or chutzpa of any kind.
And yes if your balls were in my mouth it would be the thrill of your lifetime.
But your balls are toxic you say, so I will pass, they got that shriveled look from too much smoking, and lack of use.

Poor poor flutey. Had to make up another name to give himself some credibility and someone to take his side. Nice try. Pathetic loser.
I have never heard of anyone bragging about having toxic balls, I guess that dose of penicillin did not take old man, best go back for some more. They may fall off at any time, then you would be balless.

I belive non-smokers who stand up for smokers, make arrangements for them to smoke or claim they have the right to smoke around others or anyplace around any children are really worse than smokers themselves. At least the smokers have the excuse that they are addicts, the enablers have no excuse at all.