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Hayward, a suspected drug dealer, was hit with five bullets that caused him to bleed to death on March 17, 2003.Walker, 50, told court he and his wife got a mental health order to have their daughter committed ...

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trisha minke
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Jan 15, 2007
 
James Hayward deserved to die...I wish the world was rid of him 10 yrs ago, my brother died due to the drugs Hayward sold to him. I'm praying Mr.Walker goes free, he not only saved his daughters life, but the lives of many.
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Jan 16, 2007
 

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James did not deserve to die any more than your brother deserved to die trisha. Your brother chose to buy and use drugs. I am sure he was aware of the possible consequences of its use. Sadly people dont consider what could happen before they make some of their descisions.
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#3
Jan 16, 2007
 
in my opinion hayward deserved what happened to him....sometimes bad things happen to decent human beings, and thats who we should feel for - hayward was not one of them, he was garbage and anyone who sticks up for the things he did during the time he was alive should join him.
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James did not deserve to die any more than your brother deserved to die trisha. Your brother chose to buy and use drugs. I am sure he was aware of the possible consequences of its use. Sadly people dont consider what could happen before they make some of their descisions.
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Jan 16, 2007
 
Trisha. Let me make it quite clear, i am not condoning haywards choice of profession,. in fact i am totally against it. I do believe that shooting him for selling drugs is not the answer to the problem.. I do feel bad for you, your brother and mr hayward. It is very unfortunate that all these things have transpired. We ,all make good and bad choices in our lives,sometimes we pay seriously for the bad ones we make.
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Jan 16, 2007
 
The scumbag got what he deserved. Hopefully the father gets off with no jail time. Our society is creating the mess we live in because the scum knows that they can get away with anything....they just thumb their noses at all the law abiding decent people. The drug dealing bastard deserved what he got.
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Jan 17, 2007
 
thank you....i knew there had to be someone else out there that feels the same way i do...mr.walker was protecting his daughter the last way he knew how, he went to the police for help many times only to be ignored! his daughters life was being ripped away from her! if any parent deserves the father of the year award its him. he did everything in his power to protect his child, and succeeded. i am so sick of lazy, uncaring parents. it really irritates me to read about haywards family sitting in court holding stuffed animals and crying about what happened. where were you years ago? did you try in any way to help him? obviously not. i just hope you're crying for the walker family for making them go through this mess.
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The scumbag got what he deserved. Hopefully the father gets off with no jail time. Our society is creating the mess we live in because the scum knows that they can get away with anything....they just thumb their noses at all the law abiding decent people. The drug dealing bastard deserved what he got.
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Jan 17, 2007
 
I knew James and he was a decent person. I agree that there should be punishment for selling drugs to children but the court and the police are responsible for administering that justice. If Kim Walker gets less than 1st degree murder that only sets presendent for vigilante justice all accross the country. He knew what he was doing when he went to James's Home with that loaded gun and I believe he followed thrugh with what he intented on doing. If you do the crime do the time. Cowards try to hide from there mistakes, real men stand up for their actions.
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Jan 17, 2007
 
I knew James as well back in the mid 90's when he was a small time dealer, I also worked with Mr. Walker at Morris industys where he welded and though I agree with statements above I do believe thet James did deserve to die that being said Mr. Walker should recieve a very minimal sentence as the circumstances are unique and should be considered whem judgement is passed
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Jan 17, 2007
 
tony wrote:
I knew James as well back in the mid 90's when he was a small time dealer, I also worked with Mr. Walker at Morris industys where he welded and though I agree with statements above I do believe thet James did deserve to die that being said Mr. Walker should recieve a very minimal sentence as the circumstances are unique and should be considered whem judgement is passed
Yes five bullets is quite unique and should be considered 1st degree murder. When a person enters anothers home with a loaded gun...when that person has been heard to say ill blow his head off!!! Then shoots that person five times I think there is only one verdict.
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Jan 17, 2007
 
I dont know if Hayward deserved to die...but I do know as a parent very close to this situation, that I myself found myself thinking of ways to be rid of him when he had my daughter in his clutches as well, so I fully understand how Kim felt and how helpless he felt, I do had gone to the Yorkton police about Hayward and my concerns for my daughter....today I wonder if I should have said something, would the courts have listen, I do hope that Kim does not go to jail, I hope the entire family gets the much needed counselling anyone is sure to need after such a terrible ordeal.
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Jan 18, 2007
 
Tony how can you say that James deserved to die. Jayda has cleaned up her act thanks to her dad's actions, or so Mr. Walker would like you to believe. What about James, he was obviously mixed up as well. He did not get a chance to clean up. Kim walker made the decision to end James life therefore eliminating his opportunity to clean up his problems, besides the RCMP told the Walker family that they building a case against James before the shooting took place. Kim Walker could not wait for the justice system to take action so he took matters into his own hands. He sure has taken advantage of the slow moving justice system now. Four years have passed and he is managing to be patient with the investigation against him maybe he should have been more patient and let the police finish their investigation agianst James before he took action. Now we all should realize that the police have protocol to follow and Kim Walker did not give them an ample opportunity to finish their investigation against James following protocol. Maybe someone should shoot Kim because the Justice system is not taken this loose cannon off the streets fast enough and he is a threat to society what if he goes crazy again and shoots someone else and then does not remember his actions. Who is to say that cant happen. What if my daughters boyfriend drives recklessly, do I have the right to shoot him because he might kill her in a car crash. I don't think so.
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Jan 18, 2007
 
I am a parent myself. Raised 3 kids, 2 girls now 26 and a boy now 23. God help anyone who would harm them even today. True, what Walker did was wrong, he handled it wrong and did it more I think in desperation, and concern for his child. Personally I would have handled it in a different way with perhaps a good old fashioned ass whooping, and the guy might have had to eat soup threw a stray for a month and perhaps not get around as good as he used to. The thing is his daughter even tho being a belligerent teenager, he was still responsible for her being a minor.
I do hope hope the courts understand the situation and show as much compassion as they can. If the police did their job and got scum off the streets like that this could have been avoided.

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Jan 18, 2007
 
do you actually have any children dave? and a speeding boyfriend being compared to one who's drugging and raping is absoultely ridiculous.
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Tony how can you say that James deserved to die. Jayda has cleaned up her act thanks to her dad's actions, or so Mr. Walker would like you to believe. What about James, he was obviously mixed up as well. He did not get a chance to clean up. Kim walker made the decision to end James life therefore eliminating his opportunity to clean up his problems, besides the RCMP told the Walker family that they building a case against James before the shooting took place. Kim Walker could not wait for the justice system to take action so he took matters into his own hands. He sure has taken advantage of the slow moving justice system now. Four years have passed and he is managing to be patient with the investigation against him maybe he should have been more patient and let the police finish their investigation agianst James before he took action. Now we all should realize that the police have protocol to follow and Kim Walker did not give them an ample opportunity to finish their investigation against James following protocol. Maybe someone should shoot Kim because the Justice system is not taken this loose cannon off the streets fast enough and he is a threat to society what if he goes crazy again and shoots someone else and then does not remember his actions. Who is to say that cant happen. What if my daughters boyfriend drives recklessly, do I have the right to shoot him because he might kill her in a car crash. I don't think so.
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Jan 18, 2007
 
also dave, you've said that james didn't have a chance to get help and get clean, that was because he had no intentions of ever getting clean! he didn't have a parent who loved him enough to help him,(its sure funny how his family has said they had no idea he had a morphine problem and that they would have helped him if they had known...thats a load of garbage, where were they his whole damn life that they had no idea of how he lived or made his money?) jadah had a parents love to help her survive, james had no one who gave a crap about him (i actually feel a twinge of sympathy for the guy...nope, its gone) he was too selfish and ruined too many lives for me to have much sympathy for him. something to think about: if mr.walker and james hayward were the only people left on earth and i had to chose one of them to raise my child, whould i pick a man who would protect my child with his own life, or would i pick the guy who would probably drug up my child and commit sex acts with them to make a buck?
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Jan 18, 2007
 
The people saying Hayward deserved to die are messed in the head, plain and simple. You have let your emotions overshadow logic and you're hedging your bets on half of the media frenzy without considering the whole picture. On one hand you have a drug dealer, on the other you have a murderer. What you are advocating is drug dealing is a capital offense worthy of the death penalty, and pre-meditated murder in the 1st degree is perfectly acceptable depending on who you kill. It's a good thing you people don't work for the courts.

The father is a murderer and should be sentenced to life in prison. Responsible adults phone the police, murderers unload a full clip into another human being. You can't legally carry a loaded pistol on your person to another person's house, this man did, which indicates premeditation.

Hayward should have been arrested and spent a couple years in jail for rehabilitation, instead he was murdered. If Mr. Walker's daughter was capable of getting off drugs with proper intervention and become a productive member of society, the same could have been done for Mr. Hayward. There's no two ways about it.

Walker should also be charged with firearms violations as well, because people like him make legitimate and responsible gun owners look bad.
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Jan 18, 2007
 
Some other mothers child is always the excuse.

When will people understand that they have to take responsibility for their actions.

Blaming someone else for your poor decisions is getting to be all to common a situation.

People are given a choice in life in whatever they do, Hayward chose to sell, the daughter chose to use and the father chose to murder.

Unless i am missing something in this story they made no reference to the daughter being forced to use (i.e. gun to head).

I have a feeling it will be along time until the daughter gets a good nights sleep, or i hope.
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Jan 18, 2007
 
i for one, knew the so called "victim" in this case quite personly, and everything i have said about his character is true. and in response to your quote " on one hand we have a drug dealer and on the other we have a murderer" if only it were that simple. did you follow this case from day one? if you did you would obviously know that hayward wasn't simply a drug dealer(although he was that to)he was a man who drugged up a young girl and commited unspeakable acts upon her. the "murderer" in this case tried going to the police for help many times and they did nothing- so the "murderer" did the only thing left to do to help his child. would you put your own life on the line if your child was in danger?? i hope every single parent in this world says yes, because if you don't, you don't deserve to be a parent. if protecting your child is "messed in the head" harold, then i'm glad i am.
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The people saying Hayward deserved to die are messed in the head, plain and simple. You have let your emotions overshadow logic and you're hedging your bets on half of the media frenzy without considering the whole picture. On one hand you have a drug dealer, on the other you have a murderer. What you are advocating is drug dealing is a capital offense worthy of the death penalty, and pre-meditated murder in the 1st degree is perfectly acceptable depending on who you kill. It's a good thing you people don't work for the courts.
The father is a murderer and should be sentenced to life in prison. Responsible adults phone the police, murderers unload a full clip into another human being. You can't legally carry a loaded pistol on your person to another person's house, this man did, which indicates premeditation.
Hayward should have been arrested and spent a couple years in jail for rehabilitation, instead he was murdered. If Mr. Walker's daughter was capable of getting off drugs with proper intervention and become a productive member of society, the same could have been done for Mr. Hayward. There's no two ways about it.
Walker should also be charged with firearms violations as well, because people like him make legitimate and responsible gun owners look bad.
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Jan 18, 2007
 
I agree i guess the tough thing to swallow is seeing others out there that do get away with very minimal sentences for simalar crimes. It always seems like the bad bad people are the ones that get off easy with the law. And being that I did know both I have a opinion that Mr. Walker is no more of a threat to society then any other. So for this time I would like to see a good bad guy get a break.
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Jan 19, 2007
 
Trisha I can see that you think death was a legitimate sentence for James and you can have that opinion, but you have to remember that if that is the case the person responsible for taking his life should step up and admit to his actions and take responsibility for them. You just can not go around shooting people whether you think that deserve it or not, that is not your decision as a citizen of this country. If you say that was his last option you are wrong because every law abiding citizen (which Kim Walker is obviously not)knows that murder is not an option. And yes I have 2 children, and yes I would protect them with every inch of my power which I might add would be power within the limitations of the laws of this country which means that I would not shoot another human being because that is illegal. I do sympathize with the position that Jayda put her father in but he chose the wrong path of solutions and should have to pay for his decision.

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Jan 19, 2007
 
It's too bad that this situation happened but no one has the right to take the life of another. It's an ultimate judgment that can not be reversed.

I can't really say much more than what people like Dave from Yorkton have said...Mr Walker should certainly understand that what he did was not within his rights. He should stand up and demand the maximum sentence for what he did.

He did what he thought he had to do but unfortunately, he worked against the laws of his nation. Anything less than the maximum sentence is extreme lenience.
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