Lorne Scot reservists prepare to deploy to Afghanistan

50 Years ago this same group sent members to WW II

but that was probably a Really Needed War vs LIES

"These Wars Are About Oil, Not Democracy"

MP's Turner, TurneG1@parl.gc.ca

Cc: brown.b@parl.gc.ca, wallam1@parl.gc.ca

I'm sending you this article just in case you didn't already know that Canada is part of an

International Gang raping the planet and

Spilling blood in order to steal the earth's resources and

Subjugate its peoples.

Sincerely,

Brian in Halton

*Sun, June 22, 2008*

These wars are about oil, not democracy

http://www.torontosun.com/Comment/2008/06/22/...

*By ERIC MARGOLIS emailto: margolis @ foreigncorrespondent.com

PARIS -- The ugly truth behind the Iraq and Afghanistan wars finally has emerged.

Four major western oil companies, Exxon Mobil, Shell, BP and Total are about to sign U.S.-

brokered no-bid contracts to begin exploiting Iraq's oil fields.

Saddam Hussein had kicked these firms out three decades ago when he nationalized Iraq's oil industry.

The U.S.-installed Baghdad regime is welcoming them back.

Iraq is getting back the same oil companies that used to exploit it when it was a British colony.

As former fed chairman Alan Greenspan recently admitted, the Iraq war was all about oil.

The invasion was about SUV's, not democracy.

Afghanistan just signed a major deal to launch a long-planned, 1,680-km pipeline project expected to cost $8 billion.

If completed, the Turkmenistan-Afghanistan-Pakis tan-India pipeline (TAPI) will export gas and later oil from the Caspian basin to Pakistan's coast where tankers will transport it to the West.

The Caspian basin located under the Central Asian states of Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan and Kazakkstan, holds an estimated 300 trillion cubic feet of gas and 100-200 billion barrels of oil.

Securing the world's last remaining known energy El Dorado is a strategic priority for the western powers.

But there are only two practical ways to get gas and oil out of land-locked Central Asia to the sea:

Through Iran, or through Afghanistan to Pakistan.

Iran is taboo for Washington.

That leaves Pakistan, but to get there, the planned pipeline must cross western Afghanistan, including the cities of Herat and Kandahar.

PIPELINE DEAL...

In 1998, the Afghan anti-Communist movement Taliban and a western oil consortium led by the U.S. firm Unocal signed a major pipeline deal.

Unocal lavished money and attention on the Taliban, flew a senior delegation to Texas, and hired a minor Afghan official, Hamid Karzai.

Enter Osama bin Laden.

He advised the unworldly Taliban leaders to reject the U.S. deal and got them to accept a better offer from an Argentine consortium.

Washington was furious and, according to some accounts, threatened the Taliban with war.

In early 2001, six or seven months before 9/11, Washington made the decision to invade Afghanistan, overthrow the Taliban, and install a client regime that would build the energy pipelines.

But Washington still kept sending money to the Taliban until four months before 9/11 in an effort to keep it "on side" for possible use in a war against China.

The 9/11 attacks, about which the Taliban knew nothing, supplied the pretext to invade Afghanistan.

The initial U.S. operation had the legitimate objective of wiping out Osama bin Laden's al-Qaida.

But after its 300 members fled to Pakistan, the U.S. stayed on, built bases -- which just happened to be adjacent to the planned pipeline route -- and installed former Unocal "consultant" Hamid Karzai as leader.

Washington disguised its energy geopolitics by claiming the Afghan occupation was to fight "Islamic terrorism," liberate women, build schools and promote democracy.

Ironically, the Soviets made exactly the same claims when they occupied Afghanistan from 1979-1989.

The Iraq cover story was weapons of mass destruction and democracy.

Work will begin on the TAPI once Taliban forces are cleared from the pipeline route by U.S., Canadian and NATO forces.

As American analyst Kevin Phillips writes, the U.S. military and its allies have become an "energy protection force."

ADDED BENEFIT

From Washington's viewpoint, the TAPI deal has the added benefit of scuttling another proposed pipeline project that would have delivered Iranian gas and oil to Pakistan and India.

India's energy needs are expected to triple over the next decade.

Delhi, which has its own designs on Afghanistan, is cock-a-hoop over the new pipeline plan.

Russia, by contrast, is grumpy, having hoped to monopolize Central Asian energy exports.

Energy is more important than blood in our modern world.

The U.S. is a great power with massive energy needs.

Domination of oil is a pillar of America's world power.

Let's be realistic.

Afghanistan and Iraq are about oil, nothing else.

NATO and Afghani's themselves are trying to rebuild the country. Trying to bring some normalcy and development to the country while trying to supress the taliban and terrorists.

Building a pipeline, or anything for that matter, is part of development. If they were deciding to build pulp and paper mills there, would you say.."oh this war is just about paper, that's all"?

Give me a break, have you and other people forgotten 9/11? Have you forgotten how Afghanistan was a training/hiding ground for al-qaeda? Have you forgotten the taliban, what they stood for and how after 9/11 refused to hand over Osama or anyone else.

It's so ridiculous how people equivalate the Afghan mission with Iraq. They are both different missions. The US got itself into it's own mess with Iraq and Afghanistan is a NATO combined mission.

Regardless, I wish our armed forces personnel all the best and God bless them all!!!

MP Garth Turner is a buffoon and I wouldn't give him or the tabloid Toronto Sun much respect for their twisting and mangling of what OUR armed forces are trying to accomplish.

Bin Laden/al-qaeda once said early into this mission that Canadians are weak etc...Maybe he/they were right about some of us, certainly not me. You know who you are.

People like the guy who started this thread, Garth Turner, many liberals, many NDP'ers, many other Cdns., many media outlets......will come up with excuses, conspiracy theories, twisting the truth,etc...to have a reason to quit.

Part Time Army Needed wrote:

In 1998, the Afghan anti-Communist movement Taliban and a western oil consortium led by the U.S. firm Unocal signed a major pipeline deal.
Unocal lavished money and attention on the Taliban, flew a senior delegation to Texas, and hired a minor Afghan official, Hamid Karzai.
Enter Osama bin Laden.
He advised the unworldly Taliban leaders to reject the U.S. deal and got them to accept a better offer from an Argentine consortium.
Washington was furious and, according to some accounts, threatened the Taliban with war.
In early 2001, six or seven months before 9/11, Washington made the decision to invade Afghanistan, overthrow the Taliban, and install a client regime that would build the energy pipelines.
But Washington still kept sending money to the Taliban until four months before 9/11 in an effort to keep it "on side" for possible use in a war against China.
The 9/11 attacks, about which the Taliban knew nothing, supplied the pretext to invade Afghanistan.
The initial U.S. operation had the legitimate objective of wiping out Osama bin Laden's al-Qaida.
But after its 300 members fled to Pakistan, the U.S. stayed on, built bases -- which just happened to be adjacent to the planned pipeline route -- and installed former Unocal "consultant" Hamid Karzai as leader.
Washington disguised its energy geopolitics by claiming the Afghan occupation was to fight "Islamic terrorism," liberate women, build schools and promote democracy.
Ironically, the Soviets made exactly the same claims when they occupied Afghanistan from 1979-1989.
The Iraq cover story was weapons of mass destruction and democracy.
Work will begin on the TAPI once Taliban forces are cleared from the pipeline route by U.S., Canadian and NATO forces.
As American analyst Kevin Phillips writes, the U.S. military and its allies have become an "energy protection force."
ADDED BENEFIT
From Washington's viewpoint, the TAPI deal has the added benefit of scuttling another proposed pipeline project that would have delivered Iranian gas and oil to Pakistan and India.
India's energy needs are expected to triple over the next decade.
Delhi, which has its own designs on Afghanistan, is cock-a-hoop over the new pipeline plan.
Russia, by contrast, is grumpy, having hoped to monopolize Central Asian energy exports.
Energy is more important than blood in our modern world.
The U.S. is a great power with massive energy needs.
Domination of oil is a pillar of America's world power.
Let's be realistic.
Afghanistan and Iraq are about oil, nothing else.

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