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May 9, 2008

Will vote in Bolivia spur separatism moves abroad?

The leftist governments of Bolivia, Venezuela, Ecuador, Nicaragua and Cuba lashed out against the Santa Cruz autonomy vote, claiming it represents the beginning of a U.S. effort to dismember politically ... via The Miami Herald

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Pitbull
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May 10, 2008
 
The leftist governments of Bolivia, Venezuela, Ecuador, Nicaragua and Cuba lashed out against the Santa Cruz autonomy vote, claiming it represents the beginning of a U.S. effort to dismember politically.....Funny are these not all commie countrys? run by little dictators? and they want to lash out because the people want change? isnt the system setup that way,to vote in change for the will of the people? or is it only the little dictators can call the shots..sounds like santa cruz is tired of evo the evil lier,the coca farmer..is he not friends of hugo chavez? and castro.the last time i checked they were dictators.why would a president of Bolivia who is for all people as he says.talk to commie's? who offer nothing but how to keep the people down..i would think evo would be better off with the U.S.A. as a friend.but maybe im thinking with a brain.my understanding of evo is he had no schooling.maybe it shows with his choosing of friends like,Chavez,Castro..Birds of a feather flock together i have always heard..i say the people of santa cruz have a right to vote if they want change,and from what i read most all voted for it,so there president should listen to them,or is it they are camba's and not of his own people. so ive heard this..
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May 10, 2008
 
Well said, Pitbull!
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May 11, 2008
 
Pitbull = Muleman... etc.

Once again you demonstrate your vast ignorance of world affairs by saying that Bolivia, Ecuador and Nicaragua are communist countries. That is as ridiculous as Bob Burns (you again?) saying that China is not a socialist country. If you went to college, you should ask for your money back.

One more time so that maybe even you can understand it, the people of the sovereign country of Bolivia held a fair and democratic vote. Evo Morales was elected president. If the Crucenos don't like it, too damn bad. They lost. They are the losers. If they can convince enough people in Bolivia to change the government, then that is their perogative. As long as Santa Cruz is a part of Bolivia, they are subject to the laws of Bolivia - whether they like those laws of not. In large part they created this Evo/Linera monster and now they want to avoid the consequences.
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May 11, 2008
 
diego wrote:
Pitbull = Muleman... etc.
Once again you demonstrate your vast ignorance of world affairs by saying that Bolivia, Ecuador and Nicaragua are communist countries. That is as ridiculous as Bob Burns (you again?) saying that China is not a socialist country. If you went to college, you should ask for your money back.
One more time so that maybe even you can understand it, the people of the sovereign country of Bolivia held a fair and democratic vote. Evo Morales was elected president. If the Crucenos don't like it, too damn bad. They lost. They are the losers. If they can convince enough people in Bolivia to change the government, then that is their perogative. As long as Santa Cruz is a part of Bolivia, they are subject to the laws of Bolivia - whether they like those laws of not. In large part they created this Evo/Linera monster and now they want to avoid the consequences.
Honestly I wouldnt mind avoiding evo myself, but maybe we should just let them go. I mean it can only get better
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May 12, 2008
 
E2AR, hmmm... now maybe I have to agree with you. These cambas do not have the intelligence, ability or honesty to even properly manage the city of Santa Cruz. It is a pig sty. Can you imagine how screwed up Santa Cruz would be as independent country? And just think of all the taxes required to create a new and independent country? Imagine all the selfish, greedy cambas who cheat (steal) on their taxes having to actually pay their fair share of taxes? They would scream like chimpanzees with their a**es on fire.
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May 12, 2008
 
diego wrote:
Pitbull = Muleman... etc.
Once again you demonstrate your vast ignorance of world affairs by saying that Bolivia, Ecuador and Nicaragua are communist countries. That is as ridiculous as Bob Burns (you again?) saying that China is not a socialist country. If you went to college, you should ask for your money back.
One more time so that maybe even you can understand it, the people of the sovereign country of Bolivia held a fair and democratic vote. Evo Morales was elected president. If the Crucenos don't like it, too damn bad. They lost. They are the losers. If they can convince enough people in Bolivia to change the government, then that is their perogative. As long as Santa Cruz is a part of Bolivia, they are subject to the laws of Bolivia - whether they like those laws of not. In large part they created this Evo/Linera monster and now they want to avoid the consequences.
wrong person amigo.
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May 12, 2008
 
diego wrote:
E2AR, hmmm... now maybe I have to agree with you. These cambas do not have the intelligence, ability or honesty to even properly manage the city of Santa Cruz. It is a pig sty. Can you imagine how screwed up Santa Cruz would be as independent country? And just think of all the taxes required to create a new and independent country? Imagine all the selfish, greedy cambas who cheat (steal) on their taxes having to actually pay their fair share of taxes? They would scream like chimpanzees with their a**es on fire.
from my understanding santa cruz was camba long before the colla's and indios invaded it.just like Calfornia before mexico invaded it..
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May 12, 2008
 
Pitbull = Muleman = Bob Burns

You wrote: "from my understanding santa cruz was camba long before the colla's and indios invaded it.just like Calfornia before mexico invaded it.."

Once again you demonstrate your profound ignorance and thinly veiled racism. Indigenous people (i.e. "indios" in your racist parlance) lived in the area that is now the departamento of Santa Cruz; long before the Spainards arrived.

The 'collas' and 'indios' are Bolivian citizens who have every right to relocate and live in Bolivia where they want. Who the hell are you Mr. Ugly American to criticize them for doing so?

BYW: When did Mexico invade California? If anything, it was the U.S. which invaded Mexico. California was a Spanish Colony which reverted to Mexico after the Mexicans won their independence from Spain. It was taken by the U.S. in the Mexican - American War and became a state in 1850. Do you ever become weary of making a fool out of yourself?
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May 12, 2008
 
People have the right to be free. It's like Kosovo. If the regime oppresses them, they will resist, to the point of independence if necessary. If you don't want that to happen, don't oppress them, don't give them a reason, make them happy, give them their fair share of power. Otherwise you are the cause of their wanting to get away from you. Remove that cause, remove the problem
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May 13, 2008
 
Bob, once again... the people in Santa Cruz are free as are all citizens of Bolivia.

There is no 'regime' in Bolivia. The Bolivians elected a president in a fair and democratic election and the cambas lost. If they don't like their new government, that is unfortunate. If Morales holds a recall election as he has indicated that he would, the cambas can rally a majority of Bolivians to their side and Morales will leave. If not, Morales will remain as president until the next election when the cambas can again try to convince a majority of Bolivians to remove Morales.

You exhibit cognitive dissonance if you think that the genocide that occurred Kosovo has any relation to the complaining and whining of the cambas. Actually such a view as yours disrespects the real suffering that took place in Kosovo.
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May 13, 2008
 
the crucenos better hope barak obama doesn't get elected to be usa president because he will be on the side of chavez, morales and correa.
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May 20, 2008
 
Diego, a "kolla" living in Santa Cruz is speaking!! Darn and funny thing!
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May 21, 2008
 
BlueJay wrote:
Diego, a "kolla" living in Santa Cruz is speaking!! Darn and funny thing!
Bob, is there any point to what you wrote?

Again, for your benefit, the pejorative word is spelled 'colla'.
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