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The British ambassador to Tel Aviv says international support for Israel among those in the political mainstream is eroding, driven by settlement expansion in the West Bank and continued restrictions on Gaza.
In an unusually forthright interview for Israel's Channel 10 news, Matthew Gould said he has detected a shift among the middle ground of British members of parliament towards a more critical view of Tel Aviv, The Guardian reported on its website.
There is "growing concern" in the UK over Israel’s hostility toward the Palestinians, Gould said.
"Support for Israel is starting to erode and that's not about these people on the fringe who are shouting loudly and calling for boycotts and all the rest of it. The interesting category is those members of parliament in the middle, and in that group I see a shift."
"The centre ground, the majority, the British public may not be expert, but they are not stupid and they see a stream of announcements about new building in settlements, they read stories about what's going on in the West Bank, they read about restrictions in Gaza. The substance of what's going wrong is really what's driving this," Gould said.
But, he added, Britain was "by no means unique" in its growing concern about the Israeli violence. "Anyone who cares about Israel's standing in the world should be concerned about the erosion of popular support."
"Israelis might wake up in 10 years' time and find out that the level of understanding in the international community has suddenly changed, and that patience for continuing the status quo has reduced."
The shift was a result of the Israeli government policies, Gould said, suggesting that it could not be countered or obscured by hasbara. The Hebrew word for explanation refers to efforts by the Israeli government and its supporters to promote a pro-Israel agenda and challenge what it sees as negative media coverage.
Palestinian media reported on July 14 that the Tel Aviv regime has decided to build 100 new units in the illegal settlement of Modi’in Illit and another 130 units in the illegal settlement of Jabal Abu Ghuneim in the West Bank.
Earlier in June, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu ordered the construction of 300 units in the illegal settlement of Beit El in the West Bank.
The international community regards all the Israeli settlements across the West Bank as illegal under international law.
More than half a million Israelis live in over 120 illegal settlements built since the 1967 Israeli occupation of the Palestinian territories of the West Bank and East al-Quds (Jerusalem).
The Israeli military also frequently attacks the Gaza Strip, saying the actions are being conducted for defensive purposes. However, disproportionate force is always used, in violation of international law, and civilians are often killed or injured.
In addition to airstrikes and ground attacks, the Tel Aviv regime also denies about 1.7 million people in Gaza their basic rights, including the freedom of movement and the right to decent living, work, health and education.
Gaza has been blockaded since 2007, a situation that has caused a decline in the standard of living, unprecedented levels of unemployment, and unrelenting poverty.
HMV/PKH/AZ
Who cares what Great Britain says.
As long as the USA Republican man Mitt Romney told Israel the more Muslim you send to visit Muhammad the less we have to do.
Mitt Romney gave Israel cart blanche to take on Iran at any time they wished, and the USA would be standing behind Israel.

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Why are Muslims so ashamed of there, Muslim Country's there Muslim Culture, there Muslim Heritage.
What happen in the past ?
Have you ever been Pig hunting?
If you have ever been Feral Pig Hunting, have you not noticed that Feral Pigs have no respect for the country area they live in.
Have you ever seen a Feral Pig with culture?
Same with Muslims they are like our Feral Pigs, no shame, and no culture.
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Have you ever been Pig hunting?
If you have ever been Feral Pig Hunting, have you not noticed that Feral Pigs have no respect for the country area they live in.
Have you ever seen a Feral Pig with culture?
Same with Muslims they are like our Feral Pigs, no shame, and no culture.
Still squealing with spite against your own people, hey BarBOON.

About time you redirected all this anger and frustration elsewhere.

LIKE WTF IS HAPPENING TO THOSE FACKING MEDAL TABLES?

How's Cita?
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#26642
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Cedric wrote:
Why are Muslims so ashamed of there, Muslim Country's there Muslim Culture, there Muslim Heritage.
What happen in the past ?
Ray etc.... get some Grammar lessons.

Is English your native tongue?
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Gilad Atzmon: The Wandering Who? A Study of Jewish Identity Politics
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Book review by Paul J. Balles

9 September 2011

Paul J. Balles argues that Gilad Atzmon's new book The Wandering Who? is a rare work that no one having experienced an identity crisis should miss. It courageously deals in a historical perspective with many of the contentious issues involving Jewish identity, politics and Israel.

Gilad Atzmon, scholar, prolific writer and leading jazz saxophonist has authored the book Wandering Who? In it he astutely explores the identity crisis he himself experienced and one faced by many Jews.

Atzmon struggled with the conflict between his early experiences as an Israeli Zionist and his awakening as a humanist.

His book reveals an innate ability to switch between the qualities of a down-to-earth artist (the successful sax player and word-smith) and the knowledgeable philosopher.

Without doubt, The Wandering Who? will awaken many readers– pleasing some and disturbing others.
The pleased will include those who have experienced similar awakenings or resolved identity crises by continuously asking questions.

The book will also find welcome readers among those who have sought honest answers to the many contentious issues involving Jewish identity, Jewish politics and Israel.

The disturbed will include those Atzmon might refer to as "separatist Jews … kind of a bizarre mixture of an SS commander and a Biblical Moses."

Atzmon will also face threats and complaints from those he calls “pro-war Zionist Islamophobes”/

He will undoubtedly find rejection from those who want "to stop proud, self-hating Jews [like Atzmon] from blowing the whistle".

The Wandering Who? navigates between thought-provoking personal experiences, historical and philosophical issues.

In the Foreword, Atzmon tells the most remarkable story of his Jewish upbringing and the challenging questions raised by his early experiences as an Israeli Zionist.

In the chapters that follow, Atzmon remarks that “Israel is the Jewish state and Jewishness is an ethno-centric ideology driven by exclusiveness, exceptionalism, racial supremacy and a deep inherent inclination toward segregation.”

Atzmon draws a distinction between Jews as:

1. Those who follow Judaism.

2. Those who regard themselves as human beings that happen to be of Jewish origin.

3. Those who put their Jewishness over and above all their other traits.

"Zionism is not a colonial movement with an interest in Palestine, as some scholars suggest. Zionism is actually a global movement that is fuelled by a unique tribal solidarity..."

Atzmon suggests that we read Theodor Herzl “to know that this is what political Zionism is all about: getting superpowers to serve the Zionist cause."

"Jewish political discourse is always set as a form of negation,” according to Atzmon,“The political Jew is always against something, or set apart from something else. This is far from being an ideal recipe for a peaceful, ethical life, driven by reconciliation and harmony.”

“Jews are often proud to define themselves as Jews. However, they will also be gravely offended if they are called a ‘Jew’ by others.

“Emancipated Jews are identified by negation – they are defined by the many things they are not.”

Atzmon asserts that “the Holocaust religion is the conclusive and final stage in the Jewish dialectic; it is the end of Jewish history, for it is the deepest and most sincere form of ‘self-love’”.

Referring to himself as a Hebrew-speaking Palestinian, Atzmon says:“The so-called ‘only democracy in the Middle East’ is also the one that has locked Palestine’s vast populations behind walls and barbed wire for decades.”

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Aliroger1 wrote:
Australia belongs to the Aborigines and Asia. Send the convicts home!!!
That would be Lebanese Muslim gangs.
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#26645
Aug 5, 2012
 
Aamir wrote:
I emplore all the muslims here to stop lowering yourselves by responding to moronic white christian germs. Just let them keep on with their inbreeding pathetic lives.
This could be my last post of this thread, so take care my middle eastern (excluding synagogue of satan israel), asian, african and latin american brothers. If any body wants to chat, I'll be at our forums.
Good riddance to bad rubbish.
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#26646
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Aamir wrote:
I would commit suicide just for being in the presence of such a person.
Go on then. Nobody's stopping you.
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It may come as a suprise to you but nurse practitioners diagnose and treat dipshits such as yourself. You must be an old cogger who obviously has no idea of what a nurse practitioner is or what their qualifications or parameters and job descriptions entail. This is shown by your ignorant post. The smell that you refer to is your own smell and comes from associating with so many goats and donkeys. By the way your religion is a violent and political ideology and has nothing to do with religion. LMAO
Nurse Ratchett, LMAO.

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Anyone who wants to vote that Islam is a political and violent ideology please vote at:

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Anyone who wants to vote that Islam is a political and violent ideology please vote at:
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LMAO.
You're not even close to funny so give yourself an enema and clear out all your blocked meridians. LOL
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Ray etc.... get some Grammar lessons.
Is English your native tongue?
Do tell why Muslims are so ashamed of the Muslim country of there birth, Why did you desert that land to live as western person.

What was reason ? What was the Country ?
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MUQ wrote:
Gilad Atzmon: The Wandering Who? A Study of Jewish Identity Politics
__________
Book review by Paul J. Balles
9 September 2011
Paul J. Balles argues that Gilad Atzmon's new book The Wandering Who? is a rare work that no one having experienced an identity crisis should miss. It courageously deals in a historical perspective with many of the contentious issues involving Jewish identity, politics and Israel.
Gilad Atzmon, scholar, prolific writer and leading jazz saxophonist has authored the book Wandering Who? In it he astutely explores the identity crisis he himself experienced and one faced by many Jews.
Atzmon struggled with the conflict between his early experiences as an Israeli Zionist and his awakening as a humanist.
His book reveals an innate ability to switch between the qualities of a down-to-earth artist (the successful sax player and word-smith) and the knowledgeable philosopher.
Without doubt, The Wandering Who? will awaken many readers– pleasing some and disturbing others.
The pleased will include those who have experienced similar awakenings or resolved identity crises by continuously asking questions.
The book will also find welcome readers among those who have sought honest answers to the many contentious issues involving Jewish identity, Jewish politics and Israel.
The disturbed will include those Atzmon might refer to as "separatist Jews … kind of a bizarre mixture of an SS commander and a Biblical Moses."
Atzmon will also face threats and complaints from those he calls “pro-war Zionist Islamophobes”/
He will undoubtedly find rejection from those who want "to stop proud, self-hating Jews [like Atzmon] from blowing the whistle".
The Wandering Who? navigates between thought-provoking personal experiences, historical and philosophical issues.
In the Foreword, Atzmon tells the most remarkable story of his Jewish upbringing and the challenging questions raised by his early experiences as an Israeli Zionist.
In the chapters that follow, Atzmon remarks that “Israel is the Jewish state and Jewishness is an ethno-centric ideology driven by exclusiveness, exceptionalism, racial supremacy and a deep inherent inclination toward segregation.”
Atzmon draws a distinction between Jews as:
1. Those who follow Judaism.
2. Those who regard themselves as human beings that happen to be of Jewish origin.
3. Those who put their Jewishness over and above all their other traits.
"Zionism is not a colonial movement with an interest in Palestine, as some scholars suggest. Zionism is actually a global movement that is fuelled by a unique tribal solidarity..."
Atzmon suggests that we read Theodor Herzl “to know that this is what political Zionism is all about: getting superpowers to serve the Zionist cause."
"Jewish political discourse is always set as a form of negation,” according to Atzmon,“The political Jew is always against something, or set apart from something else. This is far from being an ideal recipe for a peaceful, ethical life, driven by reconciliation and harmony.”
“Jews are often proud to define themselves as Jews. However, they will also be gravely offended if they are called a ‘Jew’ by others.
“Emancipated Jews are identified by negation – they are defined by the many things they are not.”
Atzmon asserts that “the Holocaust religion is the conclusive and final stage in the Jewish dialectic; it is the end of Jewish history, for it is the deepest and most sincere form of ‘self-love’”.
Referring to himself as a Hebrew-speaking Palestinian, Atzmon says:“The so-called ‘only democracy in the Middle East’ is also the one that has locked Palestine’s vast populations behind walls and barbed wire for decades.”
MUQ the sooner you except that the Jewish people are far more advanced that Muslims, the better off you will be.

You simply can't match a 2012 civilization with a third century one.
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You're not even close to funny so give yourself an enema and clear out all your blocked meridians. LOL
Thanks for the advice Nurse Sheilaa Ratchett.

LMAO.
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Do tell why Muslims are so ashamed of the Muslim country of there birth, Why did you desert that land to live as western person.
What was reason ? What was the Country ?
Ray, Cedric etc.... get some Grammar lessons.

Is English your native tongue?
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The British ambassador to Tel Aviv says international support for Israel among those in the political mainstream is eroding, driven by settlement expansion in the West Bank and continued restrictions on Gaza.
In an unusually forthright interview for Israel's Channel 10 news, Matthew Gould said he has detected a shift among the middle ground of British members of parliament towards a more critical view of Tel Aviv, The Guardian reported on its website.
There is "growing concern" in the UK over Israel’s hostility toward the Palestinians, Gould said.
"Support for Israel is starting to erode and that's not about these people on the fringe who are shouting loudly and calling for boycotts and all the rest of it. The interesting category is those members of parliament in the middle, and in that group I see a shift."
"The centre ground, the majority, the British public may not be expert, but they are not stupid and they see a stream of announcements about new building in settlements, they read stories about what's going on in the West Bank, they read about restrictions in Gaza. The substance of what's going wrong is really what's driving this," Gould said.
But, he added, Britain was "by no means unique" in its growing concern about the Israeli violence. "Anyone who cares about Israel's standing in the world should be concerned about the erosion of popular support."
"Israelis might wake up in 10 years' time and find out that the level of understanding in the international community has suddenly changed, and that patience for continuing the status quo has reduced."
The shift was a result of the Israeli government policies, Gould said, suggesting that it could not be countered or obscured by hasbara. The Hebrew word for explanation refers to efforts by the Israeli government and its supporters to promote a pro-Israel agenda and challenge what it sees as negative media coverage.
Palestinian media reported on July 14 that the Tel Aviv regime has decided to build 100 new units in the illegal settlement of Modi’in Illit and another 130 units in the illegal settlement of Jabal Abu Ghuneim in the West Bank.
Earlier in June, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu ordered the construction of 300 units in the illegal settlement of Beit El in the West Bank.
The international community regards all the Israeli settlements across the West Bank as illegal under international law.
More than half a million Israelis live in over 120 illegal settlements built since the 1967 Israeli occupation of the Palestinian territories of the West Bank and East al-Quds (Jerusalem).
The Israeli military also frequently attacks the Gaza Strip, saying the actions are being conducted for defensive purposes. However, disproportionate force is always used, in violation of international law, and civilians are often killed or injured.
In addition to airstrikes and ground attacks, the Tel Aviv regime also denies about 1.7 million people in Gaza their basic rights, including the freedom of movement and the right to decent living, work, health and education.
Gaza has been blockaded since 2007, a situation that has caused a decline in the standard of living, unprecedented levels of unemployment, and unrelenting poverty.
HMV/PKH/AZ
"Gaza has been blockaded since 2007"

Good that's what happens to backward people that bomb civilized nations,

After all that Gaza strip belongs to the Jewish nation, always has and always will. Leave the Jewish land you no good trespassers !!
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BABOON Fixers wrote:
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Ray, Cedric etc.... get some Grammar lessons.
Is English your native tongue?
What Great Muslim nation are you from ?

Why are you so ashamed of you country of birth ?
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Thanks for the advice Nurse Sheilaa Ratchett.
LMAO.
Do you wash your hands with soap before handling food, or do you just sniff water into your nostrils three times.
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What Great Muslim nation are you from ?
Why are you so ashamed of you country of birth ?
Etc, you've been told you are and IDIOTIC MalbarCACA so why are you so ashamed of you country of birth ?

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