Crackdown on alternative medicine

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Palawa wrote:

Forgot to add, herbal medicine works but homeopathy doesn't seem to at all. If used along with dietary changes it may help.

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Palawa wrote:

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Hey dumbo, from your own link,
"In some cases life expectancy may increase with age as the individual survives the higher mortality rates associated with childhood. For instance, the table above listed life expectancy at birth in Medieval Britain at 30. A male member of the English aristocracy at the same period could expect to live, having survived until the age of 21"
It relates to medieval Briton, not indigenous people around the planet before the introduction of diseased foods.

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Neville Thompson wrote:

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Homeopathy has now been deemed useless by the medical professional mob who look into these things

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Mark wrote:

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Homeopathy has always been deemed useless by the scientific community because it is unscientific - like does not cure like, serial dilution of active ingredients out of existence does not make them more potent and germs cause most disease, not disturbances in "vital force".
How long something has been around is not an indication it works, nor how popular it may be. Being "natural" does not mean it works or is safer than something synthetic. It isn't a matter of opinion or belief that it works - it either works or it doesn't and the only way to objectively verify this is through strict placebo controlled trials. This removes subjective and emotive rationalisations and the variety of other cognative errors we humans make. Get a lot of quality data then base your decision on that, not your personal beliefs.

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Mark wrote:

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Homeopathy has always been deemed useless by the scientific community because it is unscientific - like does not cure like, serial dilution of active ingredients out of existence does not make them more potent and germs cause most disease, not disturbances in "vital force".

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sid bris wrote:

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Here's a few people that have used homeopathic medicine, of course all of these people are or were mindless morons.
Queen Elizabeth II, Prince Charles, Tony Blair, Tina Turner, Catherine Zeta-Jones, Pamela Anderson, Jane Fonda, Martina Navratilova, David Beckham,         
Mahatma Gandhi, Mother Teresa, Queen Mother, Charles Dickens, WB Yeats, John Rockerfeller, Mark Twain, Yehudi Menuhin.
Somebody forgot to tell them homeopathics doesn't work. Be careful making blanket statements about subjects you obviously know nothing about. I know very little about homeopathics and remain open minded, you know nothing about it and have decided it's bullshit.

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Elias wrote:

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There are cases of people using meditation and the power of the mind to cure themselves of cancer. Countless examples in the media of people told they have months or even weeks to live prolonging their lives.
Herbal medicine, acupuncture, meditation may well be good complimentary medical regimes along with conventional treatment.

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sid bris wrote:

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Here's a few people that have used homeopathic medicine, of course all of these people are or were mindless morons.
Queen Elizabeth II, Prince Charles, Tony Blair, Tina Turner, Catherine Zeta-Jones, Pamela Anderson, Jane Fonda, Martina Navratilova, David Beckham,         
Mahatma Gandhi, Mother Teresa, Queen Mother, Charles Dickens, WB Yeats, John Rockerfeller, Mark Twain, Yehudi Menuhin.
Somebody forgot to tell them homeopathics doesn't work. Be careful making blanket statements about subjects you obviously know nothing about. I know very little about homeopathics and remain open minded, you know nothing about it and have decided it's bullshit.

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Elias wrote:

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Don't assume too much. While the advent of antibiotics, vaccines and anti-virals have provided enormous protection to vast numbers of people the use of homeopathy as a preventative measure is underestimated by the medical community.
A classic example is vitamin C. According to medical science there is no evidence that taking vitamin C supplements will prevent catching a cold. Yet people all over the world (including some doctors I know) take vitamin C supplements to stay healthy during flu season. It "appears" to work, is it a placebo?
Contradictory evidence is the use of mega doses of vitamin C (Ascorbic acid) to cancer patients and also to prevent catching Avian Flu and bird flu.
There are cases of people using meditation and the power of the mind to cure themselves of cancer. Countless examples in the media of people told they have months or even weeks to live prolonging their lives.
Herbal medicine, acupuncture, meditation may well be good complimentary medical regimes along with conventional treatment.

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Myth Buster wrote:

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Famous people seldom get their science right.

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sid bris wrote:

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Here's a few people that have used homeopathic medicine, of course all of these people are or were mindless morons.
Queen Elizabeth II, Prince Charles, Tony Blair, Tina Turner, Catherine Zeta-Jones, Pamela Anderson, Jane Fonda, Martina Navratilova, David Beckham,         
Mahatma Gandhi, Mother Teresa, Queen Mother, Charles Dickens, WB Yeats, John Rockefeller, Mark Twain, Yehudi Menuhin.
Somebody forgot to tell them homoeopaths doesn't work. Be careful making blanket statements about subjects you obviously know nothing about. I know very little about homoeopaths and remain open minded, you know nothing about it and have decided it's bullshit.

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Palawa wrote:

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Homeopathy works on minute scales of intervention, much different to herbology which you could class taking vitamin C in it's natural forms as herbology.
Many cancers in the early and intermediate stages can be cured with the right mental attitude, aligned with dietary and lifestyle changes. Acupuncture balances the meridians of the body, relieving symptoms and setting up the body to repair, but it also requires lifestyle changes to be permanently effective and not just a part time placebo.
The power of the mind is an essential aspect of that approach and with a holistic non ideological approach, has a high success rate.

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Elias wrote:

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I'm not confident in the accuracy of census data collected in the pre-industrial age.
The Pharaoh Ramseses lived till he was 99 years old more than 3000 yrs ago.

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Neville Thompson wrote:

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It's the practitioners that have me worried seeing most of them are doing it for the dollars and not for the benefit of the patent.
Did you know that the Bowen treatment of deep tissue massage was originally for horses.
Old Bowen was an absolute brilliant man and now his name is squandered around the place by so called practitioners who have no real idea what they are doing.

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I doubt that Ramses would've been allowed to wipe his own arse or catch the common cold. And I'm sure he would've been reasonably safe from catching STDs if he married his own daughters.
It would've been a different story for the majority of his subjects though.

Palawa wrote:

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Homeopathy works on minute scales of intervention, much different to herbology which you could class taking vitamin C in it's natural forms as herbology.
Many cancers in the early and intermediate stages can be cured with the right mental attitude, aligned with dietary and lifestyle changes. Acupuncture balances the meridians of the body, relieving symptoms and setting up the body to repair, but it also requires lifestyle changes to be permanently effective and not just a part time placebo.
The power of the mind is an essential aspect of that approach and with a holistic non ideological approach, has a high success rate.

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Myth Buster wrote:

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When homeopathy is subjected to the same vigorous testing used in medical research they fail to show any benefit.
Homeopathy is more like a religion.

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Neville Thompson wrote:

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So having a mind over matter approach would help