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Jul 29, 2012 | Posted by: roboblogger

Russia May Legalize Possession of Handguns

Full story: Free Republic

A bill that would allow Russians to possess handguns and use them for self-defense without fear of being exposed to criminal liability bill will likely be proposed in the State Duma early next year, Izvestia reports.

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Small Town America UGX

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Jul 30, 2012
 
Now the Russian muslims who are being beaten and murdered each day in Moscow and St. Pete can have the means to defend themselves from the racist nationalists.
But, the first selected catagories will only be selected upon Kremlin friendly groups. And there, it will remain.

“Abe at his kielbasa stand”

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More like, Russian will have a chance to shoot Ukra dogs at will.

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Jul 31, 2012
 
Small Town America UGX wrote:
Now the Russian muslims who are being beaten and murdered each day in Moscow and St. Pete can have the means to defend themselves from the racist nationalists.
But, the first selected catagories will only be selected upon Kremlin friendly groups. And there, it will remain.
Now the Russian skinheads can use guns to murder the Muslim scum in Russia!

Good!

Muslims are filth!

SWG

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Houston, Texas

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Jul 31, 2012
 
Take the guns away from the people and the only ones who will have them are the criminals. They don't play by rules.

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Jul 31, 2012
 
Could anybody answer, what for have died these people in Aurora city?

SWG

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Jul 31, 2012
 
M_A_X_I_M wrote:
Could anybody answer, what for have died these people in Aurora city?
No one can answer for a nut. Everyone has them. It's unfortunate but true. Discussion has been had over here on that subject and actually more could have possibly have been killed if he would have used another method. He trained himself in the use of explosives. His apartment was rigged with them. As I'm sure you are aware, you can make a bomb out of almost anything. Had he done this, more people would have been killed. It doesn't matter what laws you have in place. If some nut wants to kill people he can find a way to do it and there is not much that can be done to stop it. This man never would have been given a second thought. He had no criminal record of any kind. Not even a speeding ticket. No mental background that would have alerted any suspicion. Nothing on him at all. He was simply a nut.

Look at your own country as an example. Russia has very strict gun laws. Has it stopped the criminals from having them?

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Aug 1, 2012
 
When a gun in touch, every moron will kill people for no reason. For instance if this "Joker" had only a knife he would kill less people, but his machine gun was jammed and he killed less people then could.
The more effective weapon, the more victims.

I think your gun can't help you in such situation because of lack of time to use this.

He was a criminal? No. May be he was a Muslim terrorist? No. Had he any idea behind this act? No. He was simple nut.

What if you will have more and more such nuts?
As if Hollywood acts like a catalyst in this process...

“Abe at his kielbasa stand”

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Guns are bought to shoot Ukrainkas.
Russians claimed, these Ukras multiplied like rabbits.

SWG

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Aug 1, 2012
 
M_A_X_I_M wrote:
When a gun in touch, every moron will kill people for no reason. For instance if this "Joker" had only a knife he would kill less people, but his machine gun was jammed and he killed less people then could.
The more effective weapon, the more victims.
I think your gun can't help you in such situation because of lack of time to use this.
He was a criminal? No. May be he was a Muslim terrorist? No. Had he any idea behind this act? No. He was simple nut.
What if you will have more and more such nuts?
As if Hollywood acts like a catalyst in this process...
To be honest the "More effective weapon" would have been a bomb, wouldn't it? Don't confuse Hollywood with real life here. Getting a fully automatic weapon is not an easy thing to do and is VERY expensive, just as it is in your country, if you can get one at all. If you get caught with it and don't have the proper license they lock you in a room and throw the room away. Besides this, unless you KNOW how and have been trained to use one a full automatic is not that easy to use and is very unwieldy at best. All he had were semi-auto weapons. It really doesn't matter. If he had the thought in his head to go kill people he was going to find a way to do it. Gun or no gun.

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"To be honest the "More effective weapon" would have been a bomb, wouldn't it? "
Exactly! Especially a dirty radioactive bomb.

That is why we have very strict international law about moving and enrichment of radioactive materials.

"Gun or no gun."
I had in my life a few moments where some bastards promised to shot me to death if they had a gun at that moment. I assure that was not a joke.

As you can see I'm alive :)

“Abe at his kielbasa stand”

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Thank God you Maximko managed to bribe yourself out of it.
Ukra peasants would be a very sad bunch.
Small Town America UXG

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M_A_X_I_M wrote:
When a gun in touch, every moron will kill people for no reason. For instance if this "Joker" had only a knife he would kill less people, but his machine gun was jammed and he killed less people then could.
The more effective weapon, the more victims.
I think your gun can't help you in such situation because of lack of time to use this.
He was a criminal? No. May be he was a Muslim terrorist? No. Had he any idea behind this act? No. He was simple nut.
What if you will have more and more such nuts?
As if Hollywood acts like a catalyst in this process...
A very good post, well thought out, Maxie. But, if the "joker" did not have the means to obtain firearms, he could have devised a very powerful bomb and done more destruction. He is just a unique case. He is a nutjob, and highly educated. He did booby trap his apartment with bombs, etc. and his sole goal was to kill and maim as many as possible. Without firearms in the equation, he still would have carried out his "mission" by other means.

Russia has one of the worlds strictest gun controls in the world. It also has one of the highest homocide rates as well. The USA, with gun ownership lawful, we are in the bottom 30 in the world with firearm homocides. SWG had some good points to support my position.
If, during those encounters you noted, no firearms were present, the same lethal result would have happened to you if they had knives.
From my understanding, the Russian law would only allow firearms to be used to protect your home and business. Not to carry concealed weapons in the public.

In the USA, what the media does not report much, is the number of robberies and home invasions that were stopped by the homeowners using weapons to protect themselves and families. Or by trained civilians in those states were carrying concealed weapons is legal.

In any regard, because of political reasons, I doubt that such will become a new law, unless it is just a political means to arm supporters of Putin, et al.

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perhaps, if he have a bomb, more Ukra peasants would dead ?

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Aug 1, 2012
 
Small Town America UGX wrote:
Now the Russian muslims who are being beaten and murdered each day in Moscow and St. Pete can have the means to defend themselves from the racist nationalists.
But, the first selected catagories will only be selected upon Kremlin friendly groups. And there, it will remain.
oops! STA is a pro-Muslim as usually.
Hey, STA are you into Ramadan today?

“Abe at his kielbasa stand”

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UGly is into jug wines when he gets tanked he prays to Allah.
Small Town America UXG

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Aug 1, 2012
 
M_A_X_I_M wrote:
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oops! STA is a pro-Muslim as usually.
Hey, STA are you into Ramadan today?
Haha !!! Not pro-muslim, Maxie. Simply do not like them. Do not trust them. You may say I am a little bit prejudiced against them.

Perhaps they should travel to Russia and visit their kin. Not into any man-made religion much. I am considered agnostic.

But, unlike your skin-heads, I do not seek out innoent muslims to beat-up and murder as is common in Russia.

Just read that bills are being considered in Russia, to blacklist anti-kremlin/Putin posters on the internet. Sounds like more censorship is coming your way.
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Aug 1, 2012
 
M_A_X_I_M wrote:
"To be honest the "More effective weapon" would have been a bomb, wouldn't it? "
Exactly! Especially a dirty radioactive bomb.
That is why we have very strict international law about moving and enrichment of radioactive materials.
"Gun or no gun."
I had in my life a few moments where some bastards promised to shot me to death if they had a gun at that moment. I assure that was not a joke.
As you can see I'm alive :)
Not really. A bomb like the one used in the Timothy McVeigh Oklahoma City bombing would be far more effective... mainly because it was made from readily available materials... if you actually know how to build such a bomb...

Not from materials which one would think to ban.
Small Town America UGX

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Aug 2, 2012
 
M_A_X_I_M wrote:
When a gun in touch, every moron will kill people for no reason. For instance if this "Joker" had only a knife he would kill less people, but his machine gun was jammed and he killed less people then could.
The more effective weapon, the more victims.
I think your gun can't help you in such situation because of lack of time to use this.
He was a criminal? No. May be he was a Muslim terrorist? No. Had he any idea behind this act? No. He was simple nut.
What if you will have more and more such nuts?
As if Hollywood acts like a catalyst in this process...
August 1, 2012. A teenager in China kills nine and wounds four with knife.

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Aug 2, 2012
 
that is because the communist fools realize the 82nd is coming for them.....YEE HAW!!! told you russia.

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