which history are you talking about? the official world history? or Chinese's version of history as it should be? big deal if a chinese drew a map of WEST PHILIPPINE SEA. so what if your fishermen have been fishing in that area for so long. it's not only the chinese. several other nations have been fishing in the WEST PHILIPPINE SEA for hundreds of years. making a living by fishing in an area does not automatically translate to ownership!!!<quoted text>
Carl -- before you make any comment I think you need to do some study on history and international law first. The island (Huangyan/Scarborough) belongs to China and distance doesn't matter. Rhodes island belongs to Greece but just 20 miles away from Turkey. I am not sure why you say China bullying Phillipines (not the other way round)-- mind you who sent the Navy ship there first (instead of civil admin ship)?
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what the hell are you talking about? get your facts straight dude. squatting on someone else's land in the Philippines does not give you the rights of ownership of that land. squatters are aware of that. and they know that anytime they can be asked to leave by the actual owners of those lands. |
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1 I believe this guy is aware that he won't win in this argument that is why he is resorting to personal attacks and racist remarks...tsk tsk...show some class dude...show yourself as an educated person just like you claim to be...if you are really above us "undeducated" Filipinos. |
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As a filipino living and working in another country i have the opportunity to meet people from different nations including Chinese, and be friends with them and experience first hand their culture and traditions. Buddies of mine at work are from Beijing/Shanghai China. I have a lot of respect for the Chinese people. However by reading some of the posts here especially those remarks that are derogatory and racist, I cant help but doubt whether i should continue believing that Chinese people deserve my respect. So please let us not call each other names and hope that this issue be resolved in a peaceful manner that is beneficial to both sides.
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what ever buddy... if you dont maintain the property and the squatter does.. he gets it... please... you would have a shiet load of homeless if they kicked the squatters out... . . Philippines, Urban Poor Oppose Restoration of Anti-Squatting Law TIP Monday 14 March 2011 Philippines, Urban Poor Oppose Restoration of Anti-Squatting Law, MARCH 2011 Urban poor gathered before Congress at Quezon City, Batasan Road today to oppose House Bill 2145, This is a bill amending Republic Act no. 8368, otherwise known as the “Anti-Squatting Law Repeal Act of 1997.” With them were the Task Force Anti-Eviction group composed of Urban Poor Associates (UPA), Community Organization of the Philippine Enterprise (COPE), Community Organizers Multiversity (COM) and Sentro ng Alternatibong Lingap Pangligal (SALIGAN). Urban poor groups portrayed Occidental Mindoro Rep. Amelita Calimbas-Villarosa, the author of HB 2145, as a grim reaper. Urban poor people believe that HB 2145 is like Death, because it kills the housing rights of urban poor. Jose Morales, president of ULAP said,“We don’t understand why she wants to restore the anti-squatting law. Does she hate the poor so much that she wants to pass a bill that would jail millions of poor people living in Metro Manila and other urban areas?” “We don’t want a repeat of what happened during the Marcos regime, when he issued and implemented Presidential Decree 772 that sent to jail thousands of urban poor and their housing rights were suppressed. It took us years to nullify PD 772, so we will not allow the reinstatement of this law.” he added. SALIGAN study of HB 2145, finds that the bill is an attempt to change the definition of “professional squatters.” Atty. Jing Gaddi, urban poor unit coordinator of SALIGAN said,“The bill is trying to say that it will strengthen the protection for private land owners. However, it overlooks the fact that the social justice provisions of the 1987 Constitution limit and define such right to private ownership. Moreover, the bill says that if the occupants refuse to vacate a property within 90 days upon receiving a written demand, the occupants shall be considered professional squatters. This provision underhandedly broadens the UDHA’s definition of what a professional squatter is. What’s even more strange is H.B. 2145 does not prescribe any clear legal remedy for evicting said professional squatters.” “HB 2145 has no basis in law for broadening the definition of ‘professional squatters’. In so doing, all urban poor will fall within the category of professional squatters and hence, automatically will be considered criminal. This bill also violates international covenants on economic, social, and cultural rights in which the Philippines is one of the signatories. We condemn, the attempt to criminalize again the situation of the poor through a blanket definition of professional squatter,” Gaddi concluded. In a statement, UPA deputy coordinator Ted Anana said,“There are many efforts being done by the new Aquino government to provide decent housing to informal settlers. These will all be erased once this bill becomes law. We are just starting to plan the future of the poor and the poor are working closely with the government to reach the goals of providing decent housing for the urban poor as mandated by the 1987 Constitution and the Urban Development and Housing Act. Let us all be reminded that this kind of measure was proven to be a failure under Marcos. The number of urban poor increased. http://www.habitants.org/news/inhabitants_of_... |
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1 Squatting is a major issue in the Philippines, especially in industrialized areas of the Philippines, including Metro Manila. Squatting gained notice after World War II, when people built makeshift houses called Barong-Barong inside abandoned private plots of land. In the late 20th century, the Philippine government made separate attempts to transfer some squatters to low-cost housing projects, including projects in Tondo (in the former Smokey Mountain landfill), Taguig (BLISS Housing Project), and Rodriguez (formerly Montalban), Rizal. In the Philippines, a distinction is made between squatters who squat because of poverty and squatters who squat because they want to profit (receive payment in exchange for leaving the real estate property). Squatters who hope to make a profit are called "professional squatters". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squatting |
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The problem of squatters in the Philippines cannot be solved by invoking ‘humanitarian’ appeal
July 3, 2011 But of course. Perhaps there is some merit in what a “human rights regional official” and the “officers of the Integrated Bar of the Philippines” assert in siding with Davao City Mayor Sara Duterte on the grounds that taking “the humanitarian point of view” is called for in this situation. This situation, relates to Duterte’s punching court sheriff Abe Andres after he acted on oders to proceed with a demoliton of illegally-built structures that were home to 500 families — squatters — in Barangay Kapitan Tomas Monteverde Sr. Suliman, Agdao. Squatting is a huge social and economic problem in the Philippines, more so because squatters are protected by laws that make it difficult to remove them from properties they infest. Presidential Decree 772 (PD 772) effected by former President Ferdinand Marcos in 1975 made prosecuting “squatting and other criminal acts” relatively easy. Squatting under PD 772 was clearly a criminal undertaking as Section 1 of the decree states… Any person who, with the use of force, intimidation or threat, or taking advantage of the absence or tolerance of the landowner, succeeds in occupying or possessing the property of the latter against his will for residential commercial or any other purposes, shall be punished by an imprisonment ranging from six months to one year or a fine of not less than one thousand nor more than five thousand pesos at the discretion of the court, with subsidiary imprisonment in case of insolvency. And so, under Marcos’s administration, thousands of squatters were successfully evicted from land they illegally inhabited and jailed for their offense. Unfortunately PD 772 was repealed when Republic Act No. 8368, the “Anti-Squatting Law Repeal Act of 1997″ took effect. RA 8368 also authorised dismissal of all pending cases that drew upon the provisions of the now repealed PD 772. It also directed criminal cases against squatters to defer to the broader “Comprehensive and Continuing Urban Development Program” described by Republic Act 7279, which stipulated sanctions that are applicable only to “professional squatters” which are defined to be… [...] individuals or groups who occupy lands without the express consent of the landowner and who have sufficient income for legitimate housing. The term shall also apply to persons who have previously been awarded homelots or housing units by the Government but who sold, leased or transferred the same to settle illegally in the same place or in another urban area, and non-bona fide occupants and intruders of lands reserved for socialized housing. RA 7279 however explicitly excludes from the definition “individuals or groups who simply rent land and housing from professional squatters or squatting syndicates.” These laws, in effect, make the process of removing squatters from one’s property a long and convoluted one. Unfortunately for the hapless landowner, the Philippines is a society that likes to play the “humanitarian” card when it comes to squatters. Even the use of the word “squatter” has for some time been routinely dropped in “polite” conversation in favour of the euphemism “informal settler.” Indeed,“human rights” activists have been quick to side with Duterte, in the process becoming apologists for a mayor who, in front of TV cameras, launched into an unprovoked assault against Andres, an officer of the Judiciary who, apparently, was just out to implement a court order. That, plus the convenient downplaying of what was clearly criminal behaviour on the part of the “informal settlers” affected by the demolition order who were throwing rocks and sharp objects at Andres’s team and the police officers who were escorting them, is typical of a society where impunity rules. http://getrealphilippines.com/blog/2011/07/th... |
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"Until the early 70s, squatters had no legal rights to land or basic services. Allocating assets or services was seen as encouraging further migration and squatting and therefore should be avoided," she said.
However, civil society groups with the aid of Catholic and Protestant organizations helped the informal settlers to organize and stand on their right to access to space in the city. Despite the declaration of martial law, the Tondo foreshore effort prospered because of the support of the clergy. Racelis said the Tondo foreshore effort is accorded the honor of being the first successful attempt by the urban poor to demand for their rights, which led to the granting land titles to some beneficiaries, upgrading of resettlement sites and even improved housing. She said at least two-thirds of the informal settlers refused to leave, forcing the government to improve basic services in the area, while others would move to Dagat-dagatan in Caloocan. "It shows the power of community organizing to acquire rights not willingly conceded by the elites. It was poor people making demands to occupy space and even declare another space as acceptable for their overflow," she said. She said the granting of land titles to informal settlers goes back to indigenous concepts of land rights for occupants of public land not otherwise being used. http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/node/14845 |
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The report also showed that the squatters in the Philippines have developed de facto owner-like rights over property, due largely to patronage politics.
“They build their housing structures, as well as develop their plots,” the report said.“If and when they decide to move, they are able to ‘sell’ these structures. In cases of eviction, they are either compensated for these structures or assured of a slot in a relocation site. In most cases, they can also access services such as water and electricity.” “Legal intricacies, as well as political realities, leave actual landowners relatively powerless for they cannot regain possession of the land without long and costly legal battles, and eventually financial compensation for the informal settler. Owners face the interference of local politicians who have long nurtured the vote-rich ‘banks’ in urban-poor settlements. All these factors give relative security and protection to the informal settler,” the report said. http://businessmirror.com.ph/home/top-news/26... |
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Do you really know what you are talking about???? If you really have higher IQ's than Filipinos you wouldnt say those kind of words...educated people thinks first before they speak...go back to grade school so that you can learn GMRC...(in case you dont know the meaning of that it is GOOD MANNERS and RIGHT CONDUCT) |
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Are you an opportunistic thief or just a scavenger? I'm not Chinese by the way. |
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1 difference is those Islands are and have been INHABITED for thousands of years. These shoals have never been Inhabited. and As for Rhodes. all of Asia minor used to be Greek, turks just stopped at rhodes. The Channel islands are whats left of the Duchy of Normandy which conquered England in 1066 , France took over the rest. The Falklands where takenn by FORCE back in 1839, is that acceptable practice now? |
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1 So its based on a map drawn up the same time as the Treaty of Tordesillas was signed. do you then have problems with Spain and Portugal basing claims based on that treaty? |
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1 Are you really trying to be stupid or does it come naturally? Yes you are Chinese. You stink of the stench of Chinese stinky tofu. |
please now you cry good manners... low IQ loudmouth Filipinos like you, can dish out the racism... but cry like hurt little babies when they get it directed back at them... booo hooo |
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^ case in point dried fish eating Filipino talking about, stinky food or pretends the river he takes a dump in at night time does not stink like shiet too |
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Mr. 61 percent, you are just a 100 percent loser idling away your time by posting bs in the topix. Maybe your wife walked out on you, because you couldn't get your 'thing' up for even one microsecond. Poor you ! Didn't even viagra help ? |
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1 why dont you ask your government who attacked Iraq, because they MIGHT have WMDs and MIGHT use them... or your government who supports the Israelis by sending billions in aid a year... to support their occupation of the occupied territories... bottom line the Chinese have been using those islands and fishing those waters for centuries.... and the Filipinos did not have a problem with it until they found oil under those waters in 1976 |
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