The Armenian genocide: history, politics, ethics

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they are all as valuable as a playboy material which are written by armenians and can only be used by armenians 4 masturbation!:-)

Dardanelli wrote:

they are all as valuable as a playboy material which are written by armenians and can only be used by armenians 4 masturbation!:-)

not funny at all!!!!

Armenian Girl wrote:

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not funny at all!!!!

Sorry, but it is true, written by armenians or ww1 winner and invader countries' papers to "justify" their invasion or their lies!

Dardanelli wrote:

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Sorry, but it is true, written by armenians or ww1 winner and invader countries' papers to "justify" their invasion or their lies!

Its not just Armenians saying but world academia as well.You are simply in the dark.Read Arnold Toynbee whom I think is the best historian ever lived.

Sahakian wrote:

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Its not just Armenians saying but world academia as well.You are simply in the dark.Read Arnold Toynbee whom I think is the best historian ever lived.

Well, his problem is his career started in a propaganda bureau under British War Ministry during ww1 ! His official mission was to "justify" british invasions!!

In terms of his mission, yes, he was great!

Dardanelli wrote:

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Well, his problem is his career started in a propaganda bureau under British War Ministry during ww1 ! His official mission was to "justify" british invasions!!
In terms of his mission, yes, he was great!

you remind me about people who dismiss books and movies without reading or seeing them.
I can't be responsible of your ignorance.

Sahakian wrote:

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you remind me about people who dismiss books and movies without reading or seeing them.
I can't be responsible of your ignorance.

Part 1

Shakian, I read everything without leaving my brain in the kitchen.
You should investigate all the clues firstly.

If you focus on only 1915 , you can not understand anything. Forget everything and investigate how Ottomans lost balcans , how Russia, Brits and France use minorities against Ottomans, the biggest enemy of their future wealth .

You can easily understand why did they wanted to dissolve Ottomans. Look how we lost north africa, how we lost middle east, the petrol lands, look how these lands shared after. Look at today, which countries still playing on these lands?
Since the begining, the lands that we, Turks, sit up on were the most wanted ones , the oldest civilizations, great agricultural lands, holy lands,the silk road, lately petrol and energy mainlands.

And with its huge importance , even today , the biggest politic tricks, games are played and still playing on these lands that we were owning till before ww1 !!

So do not believe everything that is commented like " just by chance". You should dig it.

And to dissolve Ottoman Empire, these imperialist bastards used minorities a lot. They incite balcanians, north africans, middle easterns against us.

Just as balcanians, armenians provoked against Ottomans. You were just a great tool for them. And you, just as greeks, believed in Russia and its promises. You contributed war by Russian side against Ottomans. They surely made some promises to your ancestors. Look at today, your nation is still crying for Agri, do you imagine how much your ancestors wanted to own that land ? Imagine Ottomans psychology at those days.(Do not think government or Sultan , think any regular Turk) The Relocation was to save both side to stop possible cooperation with Russia and armenians and big clashes between 2 groups. And hundred thousands relocated.
Look how tension increased at those days , even written by us army officer http://www.gomidas.org/gida/index_and_%20docu...
You see both Kurds and armenians, civilians, started to cut each other. It was ww1 era, we already lost many lands and still losing, the conditions were excellent to provoke both side with a little exaggerations.

Sahakian wrote:

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you remind me about people who dismiss books and movies without reading or seeing them.
I can't be responsible of your ignorance.

Part 2

Was it 4 genocide or to save them ?

If it was to "erase" them why did Talat have the numbers and infos of people relocated ?
Well, if Talat wanted to kill armenians systematically, why didnt he suplly more guns to Kurds to make them this dirty job during ww1 ? You see , it would be easy to save his ass by showing it as civillian clash with the support of many documents that is written by even invader officers!! And this would help that Turks, to get rid off both minorities with one stone when they kill each other!! Was he that stupid to not to be able to make this "perfect" plan ? Give both side guns, let them kill each other!

We lost Syria in 1916 to England. Where the hell of these peoples, 1,5 million bones, as yourside claimed ?

In the begining of 1900 s , yerevan and your current mainland were having %50 ,%50 Armenian and Turkish population, how they increased after and now almost 0 Turk in armenia ?

As armenians claimed, they did not betray Ottomans against Russia, how did they easily owned their current mainland after ww1 ? Why Russia gave this "gift" to armenians ?

How did current Diaspora formed ? Why they mostly increased after ww1 ? Why do they mostly increased in ww1 winners like USA, England and France ? How armenian poplation suddenly increased after ww1 in Lebanon ?

Why today almost every diasporan have "lucky" grand parents that able to escaped this ethnical cleansing ? Our officers got to be very incapable that they almost lost every defenseless civilians in their hands!!!

And as you see, mr. Toy Bee unfortunately did not touch any of these questions and realities.

On the other hand, Shakian, I always confess that currently I would personally prefer Armenians to be still in Anatolia million times than Kurds, the lazy people having 8-9 kids and asking government to raise them without doing anything.

But I know if that relocation was done to Kurds, instead of Armenians, then Russia had already supplied the lands that they promised to your ancestors which is and was our lands since 1000s!

Why did muslim turks remove Karamanli turks?
Simple
Because all Christians had to go, one way or another.
Stop writing stupid stories of conspiracy against turks.
You got involved in a war you had no bussines and lost.
No one asked you to invade all those lands at the first place.
non of those are an excuse to commit a genocide.
Lets see if you will have the guts to prosecute Al Bashir next week in TR when he visits.

to a psycho pervert like you everything is like playboy

Dardanelli wrote:

they are all as valuable as a playboy material which are written by armenians and can only be used by armenians 4 masturbation!:-)

Tsukiahi wrote:

to a psycho pervert like you everything is like playboy
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Nope, but it is hard to see the difference between playboy and these armenian and ww1 winner countries' propaganda publications!!

Dardanelli wrote:

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Nope, but it is hard to see the difference between playboy and these armenian and ww1 winner countries' propaganda publications!!

Kena yev kak ger pozi lagod. You are the first on my list.

vatchakan wrote:

<quoted text>Kena yev kak ger pozi lagod. You are the first on my list.

wow , I am scared!!:-):-)

Dardanelli wrote:

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wow , I am scared!!:-):-)

you should be, with the excess amount of crap you vomit on these pages.

Armenian genocide Library :
http://www.imprescriptible.fr/archives/anglet...

Armenian Girl wrote:

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not funny at all!!!!

Turks can never be funny. Their bloody past, their father's crimes against humanity & above all this generation's refusal & their lack of dignity & Character which is very essential for any Godly human being's righteousness to stand up tall & accept their mistakes, will always bring shame & sorrow to their children & families.