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KCC
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Does the City of Tulsa and the chamber of commerce have anyone that really knows what they are doing? Both places are far too ripe with cronyism. How about actually hiring some businessmen to try to work with other businessmen in making decisions.
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Amber
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Just another case of "out sourcing" wonder how much they will pay them an hour?
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cdd
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More Americans out of work!!!!!! Cheaper isn't always better.
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marc
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the sad thing is that Argentinians can actually be good. you know that a lot of immigrants are working at IBM,legal ones. Indians are very good .don't expect a business to cut on their profits to keep the jobs here.unfortunately the only value they know is money. show me one person in this country that thinks different (except me ).
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fcol
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It's very sad and it seems like nearly all of the large employers are doing the same thing.
South America and India seem to get most of our technical jobs.
Federal policies should encourage our employers to employ domestic workers, not move the jobs out of the country or import workers by abusing the visa programs.
The impact of this trend goes far beyond the loss of income for the individuals who lose their jobs.
As more and more people are left with no income or much lower income, less is paid in taxes.
People have less money to spend on services and goods.
People have less money to spend on education.
Loss of opportunity for our younger people is horrible. It leaves them without hope and motivation. Why should they invest years of work and thousands of dollars on education for jobs that no longer exist for them?
How do we improve or even maintain our nation without individual prosperity?
It should cost our companies MORE to employ non-domestic workers, not less. It should be a last resort solution, not a strategic move to increase their profit margin.
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Joe
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FCOL said it best. I have a friend who works at IBM & they heard the news a couple weeks ago. Obviously morale is down around the company knowing that they would sacrifice their employees for a little extra money. She is looking for another job, and she says everyone she knows is doing the same thing.
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GuyinGlenpool
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I was laid off as a contractor in November, I knew that this was coming. There are 350 actual IBM jobs being affected, but this doesn't include the amount of contractors that will be affected. I would assume there would be an additional 500-700 contractors there gettting the boot too.
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Jimbo
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KCC wrote: Does the City of Tulsa and the chamber of commerce have anyone that really knows what they are doing? Both places are far too ripe with cronyism. How about actually hiring some businessmen to try to work with other businessmen in making decisions. Don't confuse them with logic.
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Jimbo
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fcol wrote: It's very sad and it seems like nearly all of the large employers are doing the same thing.
South America and India seem to get most of our technical jobs.
Federal policies should encourage our employers to employ domestic workers, not move the jobs out of the country or import workers by abusing the visa programs.
The impact of this trend goes far beyond the loss of income for the individuals who lose their jobs.
As more and more people are left with no income or much lower income, less is paid in taxes.Our government has already sold us out to the highest bidder, there called lobbist.
People have less money to spend on services and goods.
People have less money to spend on education.
Loss of opportunity for our younger people is horrible. It leaves them without hope and motivation. Why should they invest years of work and thousands of dollars on education for jobs that no longer exist for them?
How do we improve or even maintain our nation without individual prosperity?
It should cost our companies MORE to employ non-domestic workers, not less. It should be a last resort solution, not a strategic move to increase their profit margin. Our congress has alredy sold us out to the highest bidder they are called lobbiest. Why should companies do any different and go with the lowest bidder and be just as self serving. We'll export our tech jobs and soon have companies in other countries making our defensive items while peddling them to our enemies. We will probably be a third world country by 2050. Maybe if we still had work ethic in this country. Most companies today can not even get people to come to work on time or show up for a forty hour week.
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Annie
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Jimbo wrote: <quoted text>Our congress has alredy sold us out to the highest bidder they are called lobbiest. Why should companies do any different and go with the lowest bidder and be just as self serving. We'll export our tech jobs and soon have companies in other countries making our defensive items while peddling them to our enemies. We will probably be a third world country by 2050. Maybe if we still had work ethic in this country. Most companies today can not even get people to come to work on time or show up for a forty hour week. Uh Oh- I agree with you!!(will wonders ever cease) We have to hire at least 3 people to ever get 1 to actually fill the position and do the job. Worse is when we have trained them for a month and then they just don't show up... And I apologize (truly) for saying about the left wing upchuck-that's me that does that... you do the right-wing one. I am sorry for mixing the two.
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Lindsey
AOL
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I worked at IBM on the team that was being deployed to Buenos Aires. Actually, the Tulsa center sells themselves to clients as a transitional point, with the intention of sending these jobs out of the country in the future. We were told that from the beginning also. So no one should have really been surprised that this was going to happen. They have told employees that they would "do their best" to place them on other assignments within IBM if that employee or contractor wanted to do so.
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IBM RULES
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More jobs for us, nyah, nyah!
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