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5. While the Illyrians were under Macedonian occupation, the Albanians lived in Asia on the Caucaus since the most ancient times. All ancient historians call their historical homeland Albania and they are also called Albanians in the ancient sources (Justin, Polybius, Strabo, Ptolemy, etc). There is NO connection whatsoever between these Albanians and the Illyrians who had lived in Europe separated by hundreds of miles.

9. The name Illyrians disappears from the face of the earth, but the name Macedonians continues to exist in every century since the coming of the Slavs.

11. The Turks conquered Illyria and Macedonia in the 14th century and they also imported into the territory of ancient Illyria even greater numbers of Muslim Albanians from Asia. Thus the Albanians are the latest intruders on the Balkan Peninsula and have the weakest link out of all modern Balkan nations with the original Balkans inhabitants.

12. During World War II, the Albanians were fascists (like the Bulgarians) and as collaborators of Hitler's Nazi Germany occupied parts of western Macedonia committing atrocities over the Macedonian population

13. After World War II the Albanians composed a very small minority of 8% in the Republic of Macedonia. Since then, they emigrated in greater numbers from Albania into Macedonia looking for a better life. By 1953, they composed 12.5% of Macedonia's population

And finally, the fact that the Albanians have retained their original Albanian name (and not Illyrian), only proves that they are direct descendents of the Asian Albanians and NOT of that ancient Illyrians. The Macedonians on the other hand have kept their ancient Macedonian name which speaks clearly that they are aware of their ethnic ancient roots, for the Macedonians have lived in Macedonia for more then 2,500 years while Albanians had increased as minority within the last 80 years.

http://www.historyofmacedonia.org/AlbanianTer...

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haha hhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.

the highest iq for serb is here for everyone to see
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Sep 28, 2007
 
hahaha sewerbians gypsies go back 2 mongolia
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MAKEDONIAN FIGHTER wrote:
5. While the Illyrians were under Macedonian occupation, the Albanians lived in Asia on the Caucaus since the most ancient times. All ancient historians call their historical homeland Albania and they are also called Albanians in the ancient sources (Justin, Polybius, Strabo, Ptolemy, etc). There is NO connection whatsoever between these Albanians and the Illyrians who had lived in Europe separated by hundreds of miles.
9. The name Illyrians disappears from the face of the earth, but the name Macedonians continues to exist in every century since the coming of the Slavs.
11. The Turks conquered Illyria and Macedonia in the 14th century and they also imported into the territory of ancient Illyria even greater numbers of Muslim Albanians from Asia. Thus the Albanians are the latest intruders on the Balkan Peninsula and have the weakest link out of all modern Balkan nations with the original Balkans inhabitants.
12. During World War II, the Albanians were fascists (like the Bulgarians) and as collaborators of Hitler's Nazi Germany occupied parts of western Macedonia committing atrocities over the Macedonian population
13. After World War II the Albanians composed a very small minority of 8% in the Republic of Macedonia. Since then, they emigrated in greater numbers from Albania into Macedonia looking for a better life. By 1953, they composed 12.5% of Macedonia's population
And finally, the fact that the Albanians have retained their original Albanian name (and not Illyrian), only proves that they are direct descendents of the Asian Albanians and NOT of that ancient Illyrians. The Macedonians on the other hand have kept their ancient Macedonian name which speaks clearly that they are aware of their ethnic ancient roots, for the Macedonians have lived in Macedonia for more then 2,500 years while Albanians had increased as minority within the last 80 years.
http://www.historyofmacedonia.org/AlbanianTer...
You do not have a better source, do you? I will set up another site: HTTP://WWW> HISTORYOFMACEDONIA.NET and I will write the history of your Country.

By the way, when did Macedoni was declared as a country? Macedonians lived before Illyrians???!!! You make me puke!!!!

Lastly, no need to tell me the history of Albania. Noone knows the history of Albania like an Albanian, because he has lived it himself and passed it on...

There is an old saying: I do not need the neighbor to tell me what furniture I have in my house!!!
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haha hhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.
the highest iq for serb is here for everyone to see
That is a cute one!!!
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Sep 28, 2007
 
MAKEDONIAN FIGHTER wrote:
5. While the Illyrians were under Macedonian occupation, the Albanians lived in Asia on the Caucaus since the most ancient times. All ancient historians call their historical homeland Albania and they are also called Albanians in the ancient sources (Justin, Polybius, Strabo, Ptolemy, etc). There is NO connection whatsoever between these Albanians and the Illyrians who had lived in Europe separated by hundreds of miles.
9. The name Illyrians disappears from the face of the earth, but the name Macedonians continues to exist in every century since the coming of the Slavs.
11. The Turks conquered Illyria and Macedonia in the 14th century and they also imported into the territory of ancient Illyria even greater numbers of Muslim Albanians from Asia. Thus the Albanians are the latest intruders on the Balkan Peninsula and have the weakest link out of all modern Balkan nations with the original Balkans inhabitants.
12. During World War II, the Albanians were fascists (like the Bulgarians) and as collaborators of Hitler's Nazi Germany occupied parts of western Macedonia committing atrocities over the Macedonian population
13. After World War II the Albanians composed a very small minority of 8% in the Republic of Macedonia. Since then, they emigrated in greater numbers from Albania into Macedonia looking for a better life. By 1953, they composed 12.5% of Macedonia's population
And finally, the fact that the Albanians have retained their original Albanian name (and not Illyrian), only proves that they are direct descendents of the Asian Albanians and NOT of that ancient Illyrians. The Macedonians on the other hand have kept their ancient Macedonian name which speaks clearly that they are aware of their ethnic ancient roots, for the Macedonians have lived in Macedonia for more then 2,500 years while Albanians had increased as minority within the last 80 years.
http://www.historyofmacedonia.org/AlbanianTer...
if really the History recognised in macedonia has this
things about Albanians,it will surely have serious problems.Not so serious as the broblem of not knowing and mocking the identity of their own people,but...when it cones to relations with Albania,they will have to deal with a serious one
Oni

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Sep 28, 2007
 
everyone who knows history laughs with the one that you invent.You're just some clowns
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Sep 28, 2007
 
Oni wrote:
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if really the History recognised in macedonia has this
things about Albanians,it will surely have serious problems.Not so serious as the broblem of not knowing and mocking the identity of their own people,but...when it cones to relations with Albania,they will have to deal with a serious one
does anybody in this forum have any idea if this MAKEDONIAN FIGHTER is really Macedonian or not??

he seems too provocative to be such,so uninterested for good relations with Albanians.

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Sep 28, 2007
 
Oni wrote:
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does anybody in this forum have any idea if this MAKEDONIAN FIGHTER is really Macedonian or not??
he seems too provocative to be such,so uninterested for good relations with Albanians.
The real Maqedonians either went extinct or they became fully greek or Albanians.

He is a Serbs that claims he is a Maqedonian.

All i can say is, dream on... Mahamutin Fighter
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Sep 28, 2007
 
Bajlozi wrote:
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The real Maqedonians either went extinct or they became fully greek or Albanians.
He is a Serbs that claims he is a Maqedonian.
All i can say is, dream on... Mahamutin Fighter
Good point,thank you

por desha te thoja qe nese ndonjeri me me shume pervoje ne forum ka ndonje ide se
me te vertete ky eshte maqedonas=nga maqedonia,apo nga ndo1 vend tjeter edhe kerkon te krijoje konflikte shqiptaro-maqedonase.Dikush m'u pergjigj
se nuk eshte maqedonas,...Sidoqofte falemnderit
Run Ratko_Run Radovan

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Sep 28, 2007
 
There are no slavic Macedonians,just Bulgars!

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MAKEDONIAN FIGHTER wrote:
5. While the Illyrians were under Macedonian occupation, the Albanians lived in Asia on the Caucaus since the most ancient times. All ancient historians call their historical homeland Albania and they are also called Albanians in the ancient sources (Justin, Polybius, Strabo, Ptolemy, etc). There is NO connection whatsoever between these Albanians and the Illyrians who had lived in Europe separated by hundreds of miles.
9. The name Illyrians disappears from the face of the earth, but the name Macedonians continues to exist in every century since the coming of the Slavs.
11. The Turks conquered Illyria and Macedonia in the 14th century and they also imported into the territory of ancient Illyria even greater numbers of Muslim Albanians from Asia. Thus the Albanians are the latest intruders on the Balkan Peninsula and have the weakest link out of all modern Balkan nations with the original Balkans inhabitants.
12. During World War II, the Albanians were fascists (like the Bulgarians) and as collaborators of Hitler's Nazi Germany occupied parts of western Macedonia committing atrocities over the Macedonian population
13. After World War II the Albanians composed a very small minority of 8% in the Republic of Macedonia. Since then, they emigrated in greater numbers from Albania into Macedonia looking for a better life. By 1953, they composed 12.5% of Macedonia's population
And finally, the fact that the Albanians have retained their original Albanian name (and not Illyrian), only proves that they are direct descendents of the Asian Albanians and NOT of that ancient Illyrians. The Macedonians on the other hand have kept their ancient Macedonian name which speaks clearly that they are aware of their ethnic ancient roots, for the Macedonians have lived in Macedonia for more then 2,500 years while Albanians had increased as minority within the last 80 years.
http://www.historyofmacedonia.org/AlbanianTer...
Are you out of your mind?! Illyrians=Albanians
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Sep 29, 2007
 
Albanian1989 aka alba wrote:
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Are you out of your mind?! Illyrians=Albanians
F@#k him!
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Oct 1, 2007
 
Run Ratko_Run Radovan wrote:
There are no slavic Macedonians,just Bulgars!
See the Macedonian forum. You will notice Macedonians fighting against Burgarians (Tatars) and Greeks for the basic right of self-determination.

We (Macedonians) never said even one word against Albanians, moreove the Bulgarians are misusing you.... Greeks also trying to take you on-board agains us (see GFC posts).

I am not Bulgarian (=Tatar) and will never be! Never insaltet any Albanian in my life, but from you I ask the same.

Regards,
Macedonian from Holland.

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Oct 1, 2007
 
PHD wrote:
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See the Macedonian forum. You will notice Macedonians fighting against Burgarians (Tatars) and Greeks for the basic right of self-determination.
We (Macedonians) never said even one word against Albanians, moreove the Bulgarians are misusing you.... Greeks also trying to take you on-board agains us (see GFC posts).
I am not Bulgarian (=Tatar) and will never be! Never insaltet any Albanian in my life, but from you I ask the same.
Regards,
Macedonian from Holland.
Never had the intention to do so ;)
The macedonians I know from kicevo are really cool people.

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Oct 1, 2007
 
Except for makedonian fighter but if you scroll up you can see my reason for that.
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Oct 1, 2007
 
Albanian1989 aka alba wrote:
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Never had the intention to do so ;)
The macedonians I know from kicevo are really cool people.
Thank you.

We always considered Albanians as very proud & brave people!

Have a nice day.
Macedonian from Holland
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Oct 1, 2007
 
Albanian1989 aka alba wrote:
Except for makedonian fighter but if you scroll up you can see my reason for that.
I can asure you he is not Macedonian. It is some looser Serb (chetnik) or Greek.

I can appologise to you if needed, but trust me I know all Macedonians from the forums, he/she is not one of us.

Macedonian from Holland.

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Oct 1, 2007
 
No need to apologize darling. I don't judge a countries people based on one person that happens to be from there. : )
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PHD wrote:
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See the Macedonian forum. You will notice Macedonians fighting against Burgarians (Tatars) and Greeks for the basic right of self-determination.
We (Macedonians) never said even one word against Albanians, moreove the Bulgarians are misusing you.... Greeks also trying to take you on-board agains us (see GFC posts).
I am not Bulgarian (=Tatar) and will never be! Never insaltet any Albanian in my life, but from you I ask the same.
Regards,
Macedonian from Holland.
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