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Jun 4, 2008

World welcomes Obama win

Barack Obama's triumph over Hillary Clinton triggered jubilation among his relatives in Kenya, hope among people around the world - and a few questions about he actually stands for.

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That's a good question. What does he stand for? The media's poster child says he wants change. What kind of change? He is the most liberal member of either house in the history of the nation. That's all we really know about him. He gives a good speech, if you like circular oration. We seem to be on a need to know basis concerning his desire for change. The problem is, I guess we don't need to know very much. Is he afraid to divulge his ideas? Or does he have no idea for a plan and is baffling us with BS?

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From an article I read earlier - a great quote:

As the McCain/Obama contrast becomes more and more clear in the coming months, many will not vote for Obama, a candidate who will raise taxes, hike spending, and retreat from terrorists. Barack Obama has run on a platform of change, but if I ask for change for a $100 bill, and you give me a five and five ones, I won’t be too happy. It’s not that you deliver the change; it’s the kind of change you bring.”
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Let's clarify McCain's position on just one of the issues:

"No one has supported President Bush on Iraq more than I have."

"I disagreed strongly with the Bush administration's mismanagement of the war in Iraq."

Both statements are from McCain. That's what I like most about McCain... I know what his "change is about" I also like spending $12 billion dollars a month on the war.
Looking forward to four more years of Bush! McCain, who supported Bush 95% of the time in the past year, is now trying to distance himself

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McCain isn't who we're talking about. Since you are an Obama supporter, tell me what change Obama has in mind. Don't just dance around the subject by turning it in the McCain direction. I want actual, hard facts, not empty rhetoric.
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What a joke.
You have your choice 4 more years of Bush of 4 years of a bigot.
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McCain is an old fool. And only old fools are going to vote for him.

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Can no one answer my question? I'll restate it. What change does Barack Hussein Obama intend to implement as president?

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earlpittsamurican wrote:
McCain isn't who we're talking about. Since you are an Obama supporter, tell me what change Obama has in mind. Don't just dance around the subject by turning it in the McCain direction. I want actual, hard facts, not empty rhetoric.
That's the main problem with the democrats: tranference of guilt!
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McCain, a neo con at heart, will re-implement the draft. If that's what you want for your children and grandchildren, by all means, vote Republican. The draining of American resources of both troops and finances must stop. Is this economic recession what you want to continue ?

The main problem with Republicans: refusal to man up to their guilt of the last 8 years.

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JWesley Harding wrote:
McCain, a neo con at heart, will re-implement the draft. If that's what you want for your children and grandchildren, by all means, vote Republican. The draining of American resources of both troops and finances must stop. Is this economic recession what you want to continue ?
The main problem with Republicans: refusal to man up to their guilt of the last 8 years.
It was a democrat who wanted to re-implement the draft:
"United States Congressman Charles Rangel (Dem/NY) re-introduced a bill in February, 2006 which if passed will implement a mandatory military draft for all men and women in the U.S. between the ages of 18 and 42."

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Rick, never, ever use facts. It confuses them.

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JWesley Harding wrote:
McCain, a neo con at heart, will re-implement the draft. If that's what you want for your children and grandchildren, by all means, vote Republican. The draining of American resources of both troops and finances must stop. Is this economic recession what you want to continue ?
The main problem with Republicans: refusal to man up to their guilt of the last 8 years.
What do you not understand about my question??? I DID NOT ask a question about McCain. I asked the question; What kind of change does OBAMA want? Is everybody as clueless about Obama as I am???

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I very rarely copy and paste something but this is too good to pass up. Keep in mind that this was written by a black man, so it is definitely NOT racially inpsired. Take a good read at this:
An Old Newness
By Thomas Sowell
April 29, 2008 Many years ago, a great hitter named Paul Waner was nearing the end of his long career. He entered a ballgame with 2,999 hits, one hit away from the landmark total of 3,000, which so many hitters want to reach, but which relatively few actually do reach.
Waner hit a ball that the fielder did not handle cleanly but the official scorer called it a hit, making it Waner's 3,000th. Paul Waner then sent word to the official scorer that he did not want that questionable hit to be the one that put him over the top.
The official scorer reversed himself and called it an error. Later Paul Waner got a clean hit for number 3,000.
What reminded me of this is the great fervor that many seem to feel over the prospect of the first black President of the United States .
No doubt it is only a matter of time before there is a black president, just as it was only a matter of time before Paul Waner got his 3,000th hit. The issue is whether we want to reach that landmark so badly that we are willing to overlook how questionably that landmark is reached.
Paul Waner had too much pride to accept a scratch hit. Choosing a President of the United States is a lot more momentous than a baseball record. We the voters need to have far more concern about who we put in that office that holds the destiny of a nation and of generations yet unborn.
There is no reason why someone as arrogant, foolishly clever and ultimately dangerous as Barack Obama should become president, especially not at a time when the threat of international terrorists with nuclear weapons looms over 300 million Americans.
Many people seem to regard elections as occasions for venting emotions, like cheering for your favorite team or choosing a Homecoming Queen.
The three leading candidates for their party's nomination are being discussed in terms of their demographics, race, sex and age, as if that is what the job is about.

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One of the painful aspects of studying great catastrophes of the past is discovering how many times people were preoccupied with trivialities when they were teetering on the edge of doom. The demographics of the presidency are far less important than the momentous weight of responsibility that office carries.
Just the power to nominate federal judges to trial courts and appellate courts across the country, including the Supreme Court, can have an enormous impact for decades to come. There is no point feeling outraged by things done by federal judges, if you vote on the basis of emotion for those who appoint them.
Barack Obama has already indicated that he wants judges who make social policy instead of just applying the law. He has already tried to stop young violent criminals from being tried as adults.
Although Senator Obama has presented himself as the candidate of new things, using the mantra of "change" endlessly, the cold fact is that virtually everything he says about domestic policy is straight out of the 1960s and virtually everything he says about foreign policy is straight out of the 1930s.
Protecting criminals, attacking business, increasing government spending, promoting a sense of envy and grievance, raising taxes on people who are productive and subsidizing those who are not; all this is a re-run of the 1960s.
We paid a terrible price for such 1960s notions in the years that followed, in the form of soaring crime rates, double-digit inflation and double-digit unemployment. During the 1960s, ghettoes across the countries were ravaged by riots from which many have not fully recovered to this day.
The violence and destruction were concentrated not where there was the greatest poverty or injustice but where there were the most liberal politicians, promoting grievances and hamstringing the police.
Internationally, the approach that Senator Obama proposes, including the media magic of meetings between heads of state, was tried during the 1930s. That approach, in the name of peace, is what led to the most catastrophic war in human history.
Everything seems new to those too young to remember the old and too ignorant of history to have heard about it.
Thomas Sowell is a senior fellow at the Hoover Institute and author of Basic Economics: A Citizen's Guide to the Economy.

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I got screwed up and the second half is first. Read this first, then the above. Keep in mind this was written by a black man. Definitely not racially incited.

An Old Newness
By Thomas Sowell
April 29, 2008 Many years ago, a great hitter named Paul Waner was nearing the end of his long career. He entered a ballgame with 2,999 hits, one hit away from the landmark total of 3,000, which so many hitters want to reach, but which relatively few actually do reach.

Waner hit a ball that the fielder did not handle cleanly but the official scorer called it a hit, making it Waner's 3,000th. Paul Waner then sent word to the official scorer that he did not want that questionable hit to be the one that put him over the top.

The official scorer reversed himself and called it an error. Later Paul Waner got a clean hit for number 3,000.

What reminded me of this is the great fervor that many seem to feel over the prospect of the first black President of the United States .

No doubt it is only a matter of time before there is a black president, just as it was only a matter of time before Paul Waner got his 3,000th hit. The issue is whether we want to reach that landmark so badly that we are willing to overlook how questionably that landmark is reached.

Paul Waner had too much pride to accept a scratch hit. Choosing a President of the United States is a lot more momentous than a baseball record. We the voters need to have far more concern about who we put in that office that holds the destiny of a nation and of generations yet unborn.

There is no reason why someone as arrogant, foolishly clever and ultimately dangerous as Barack Obama should become president, especially not at a time when the threat of international terrorists with nuclear weapons looms over 300 million Americans.

Many people seem to regard elections as occasions for venting emotions, like cheering for your favorite team or choosing a Homecoming Queen.

The three leading candidates for their party's nomination are being discussed in terms of their demographics, race, sex and age, as if that is what the job is about.
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Perhaps if one goes to the below sites, you will get an idea of Obama's plans....if you read the articles, I hope you would realize that he isn't coming up with things out of the blue, he has taken serious matters, come up with what he believes are good plans and documented them at the sites below. It takes less than a minute to google Obama's plans on energy, Iraq, economy, or health care. I'm tired of reading complaints about "who is this Obama" the information is out there (and these are sites I found in a couple of minutes) you just need to decide if you want to really learn what he is about or complain about what you "think" he is about.
Look, the man isn't perfect...who is, He isn't planning on running the country single handedly...he will not have all of the answers; but we cannot say that he hasn't given many, many issues serious thought and ways to help make things better. The American people need to pull together and try to do the same
http://www.barackobama.com/issues/iraq/
http://www.barackobama.com/issues/pdf/IraqFac...
http://www.barackobama.com/issues/energy/

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His strategy for Iraq was tried once and started World War II. His energy strategy is the same old B.S. every politician spouts. Tell me something that he's trying that's actually new. Remember he said "Change".
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Quote for the day:

"We live in the greatest country in the entire world, won't you join with me as we try to change it."
Barack Obama
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Rather that some folks display such ignorance of
not only historical facts but seem incapable of
analysing prevaailing circumstances with critical
mind eyes. It behooves Aricans to connect those
dots of history and arrive at some conlusion to
what Africans must do to effect their plight. Yes
Mr Obama has been involved a definitive change of
historical proportion. Should Africans assume now
that this will automatically serve their purpose?

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I am sick to death of the media trying to ram Obama down our throats. I just saw my third picture on Yahoo News with him standing in front of a circular light making him look like he has an halo around his head. Give me a break. Even if he was the right man for the job, I'd refuse to vote for him just because the media is so enamored with him.
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