Aghan official says US strikes killed 22 civilians

dave wrote:

im surprised there was anything left to count

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Grim Reaper wrote:

Gives back the lives of our young who died to liberate your country from the Taliban, Otherwise you must also endure the cost for sustaining your libertu. You people are fr!gging cowards always depending on someone else then crying the blues when called to put up. Nuke the bastids and partially resolve the terrorisy problem and severely encroach on opium production~~~ No sympathy here for the fecal heads!!!

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wyojake wrote:

fact - people die in wars. Mostly innocents.

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Grim Reaper wrote:

Gives back the lives of our young who died to liberate your country from the Taliban, Otherwise you must also endure the cost for sustaining your libertu. You people are fr!gging cowards always depending on someone else then crying the blues when called to put up. Nuke the bastids and partially resolve the terrorisy problem and severely encroach on opium production~~~ No sympathy here for the fecal heads!!!

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Nightshift wrote:

give back the lives of all the people killed in Iraq and Afghanistan as a result of your illegal wars.
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USA pull out wrote:

And it doesn't matter if US stays there for two more years or twenty, once the tribes of Afghanistan will prevail. You can ask anybody who has been there English or Russians.

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Nightshift wrote:

give back the lives of all the people killed in Iraq and Afghanistan as a result of your illegal wars.
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Which tribe are you referring to?? The tribe that wants freedom and democracy or the tribe that wants domination over it's people. It's rather safe for you to say when you are not even there. Seems to me from what you say you want the old ways and are upset that we are even there.

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I just wrote how the things are in Afghanistan, a country who nobody occupied for a long and nobody left victorious. They all went home with bloody noses.
Honestly I saw the US occupation of Afghanistan when it happened as a positive thing, because I know what kind of people are US former friends the Taliban.
I also see that coalition did nothing to stop the production of heroin, even more the production now is at all time record levels. While the Taliban reduced the production almost to zero.

Grim Reaper wrote:

Gives back the lives of our young who died to liberate your country from the Taliban, Otherwise you must also endure the cost for sustaining your libertu. You people are fr!gging cowards always depending on someone else then crying the blues when called to put up. Nuke the bastids and partially resolve the terrorisy problem and severely encroach on opium production~~~ No sympathy here for the fecal heads!!!

Eron wrote:

Show me where the taliban reduced the reduction of opium to almost zero. You believe that cause the taliban said so? Please, I've been in the Helmand Provice of Afghanistan. The poppy plantaions have been around for decades. They are very well established.
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You mean the UK has no involvement in??? And it's funny but you refer to it as "YOUR" illegal wars. Am I mistaken, but didn't PM. Blaire have some involvement with President Bush on this? Please explain.

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YOU are one STOOPID[SIC] LIMEY! I bet you didn't put your life on the line for country in any conflict, like our chaps have for your country -- did you?

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How about the UN?
Cultivation: An estimated 7,606 hectares (Ha) of opium poppy was cultivated in Afghanistan during
the 2001 season. This represents a reduction in total poppy area of 91% compared to last year’s
estimate of 82,172 Ha. Helmand Province, the highest cultivating province last year with 42,853 Ha,
recorded no poppy cultivation in the 2001 season. Nangarhar, the second highest cultivating province
last year with 19,747 Ha is reported to have 218 Ha this year. Almost all major former poppy
growing provinces had no poppy or relatively small areas under cultivation this year. The reductions
are clearly the result of the implementation of the opium poppy ban.
http://www.unodc.org/pdf/afg/report_2001-10-1...
In 2001 they produced 185 tons of raw opium, in 2007 they produced 8.200 tons of opium or 93% of worlds consumption.
Is this enough?

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So what your telling me is that from 1994 (when the Taliban captured Khandar and effectively ruled the country), to 2000, they allowed Opium to be grown, which they taxed at 20%. In 2001 they issued a decree and only 185 tn of opim was refined.
You give credence to what the UN says, you prolly don't know that the UN does as little as possible in the Stan. And you probably don't know that the Taliban shut the offices of the UN down in 1998. There were no UN personell there to write a report. It would have been impossible for UN inspectors (or who ever wrote that report) to physically be on the ground in 2001 to gather information about the opium production. If your wondering why just think about it for a minute.
People like you need to investigate a little beyond the UN talking points. Use a little common sense. If all they had to do was speak and it was done, they shoulda gotten rid of opium production back in 1994.
Oh and they were such great leaders of Afghanistan. The worst attack on civilians came in summer of 1998 when the Taliban swept north from Herat to the predominantly Hazara and Uzbek city of Mazar-i-Sharif, the largest city in the north. Entering at 10 am on 8 August 1998, for the next two days the Taliban drove their pickup trucks "up and down the narrow streets of Mazar-i-Sharif shooting to the left and right and killing everything that moved — shop owners, cart pullers, women and children shoppers and even goats and donkeys. More than 8000 noncombatants were reported killed in Mazar-i-Sharif and later in Bamiyan. And here's how they treated women:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/98...
You need to look at the world in a big picture sort of way. You are to narrowly focused
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