Myanmar allows first UN aid flights but none from US

Simbledun wrote:

I see on CNN that the Myanmar military has seized the first UN shipments and booted the aid workers out. The UN says it won't send anything else.
Too bad for the Burmese that they aren't sitting on oil fields, or we'd put together a coalition of the greedy -- er -- I mean "willing" to set them free.

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Caffeinated wrote:

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If the people of New Orleans are able to wade through a cesspool of debris AFTER the storm, they could have walked out of the storm on a clean highway PRIOR to the storm. The fact is that New Orleans is a poverty ridden community that doesn't mind being that way. The difference between successful people and those who are not, is that successful people don't feel that anyone owes them anything. The capable people of New Orleans that CHOSE to stay even though they were warned to evacuate, essentially murdered the people who were truly unable to leave. The US has limited resources. Oftentimes tragedies bring out the best in people. The citizens of New Orleans proved otherwise. And, as a result, they get little support from their own country, government, or otherwise. For the most part, they have been a drain on society. Unfortunately, there are innocent victims, and they will suffer because N O as a whole is a shameful bunch of thugs...including the mayor.

NO TY USA wrote:

Hypocrisy 101: A Brief Review Of Hurricane Katrina
May 8, 2008
http://www.environmentalgraffiti.com/business...
I can't believe the ignorance on here. The American government knew those levees would give out like 10 years ago but did nothing about it. Don't blame the people or mayor of NO, this was just another example of the incompetent US government. I can't blame Puppet Bush but I can blame the people pulling his strings.

NO TY USA wrote:

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If anyone knows how Americas feels, it's Germany. The American government has learned a lot from Germany, that's no joke.
Also, stop bringing up shit from Germany's past. They did to the Jews what America did to the Native Indians. The numbers are different but the crimes are the same.

Caffeinated wrote:

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Nagin and the N O people did nothing to help themselves. There is plenty of blame to go around. The only people that I feel sorry for, are the countless middle Americans who work hard, lost everything and got zero support due to their economic status. Let's stop catering to the lazy poor, and give a hand to our neighbors who earn their keep.

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Correct. I am also watching the unfolding orchestrations be there any.

Chicago Born wrote:

<quoted text>You've got it all wrong pal. The President was on the phone, with the incompetent Mayor of New Orleans hours before the storm hit. Ol Nagin turned down the aid, and then bad mouthed the government when it didn't do anything. What a piece of work. But then again you believed it. Go figure

daking wrote:

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Now that this has turned into a debate about N.O. I guess we can talk about it.
How were the citizens of N.O. supposed to get out. I think something like 75% of the people there use public transportation, not because of global warming but because they were not able to afford it. Yes poor people should get up, get out and get something. But let me ask you this or make this statement. For the world to work properly, there has to be wealthy people, rich people, middle class people, and poor people. That is how it works and that is the reality. Who else is going to do the jobs that these people do. But there is no excuse for this administration to have not been able to reach the people of N.O. for a week. That is rediculous. We couldn't get in is what they said. But CNN and NBC and FOX new had people in there the next day. They should have evacuated, yeah a city with somethingl iek 55% of th population living inpoverty. Not to mention the late and I mean late warnings for people to evacuate the city. You don't just leave people to die because they are poor and you feel they have nothing to contribute to society. That is what the rich and wealthy do. I am middle class and came from a poor family so don't tell me that poor people are dirt and whatever. As far as Negin, yeah, he should have done more. But he is only the mayor. All he can really do is issue warnings and he could have demanded the public transit system be used to evacuate people, but where were they going to go, oh yeah, to the dome. that is what happened and it filled up with water, then people were dieing and being raped inside of there. You can blame the peopleof N.O for not leaving but you can also blame this administration for its poor response to the situation, PERIOD.

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Yea and I'm sure you would support us going in and supposedly killing innocent women and children. For some other reason people can fabricate to put down the troops and crap on the millitary.
I am a soldier and I find it extremely offensive if you think we went over to take their oil. Its remarkable to think that I or any of your fellow citizens would actually participate in something like that.
Ever wonder why we are constantly volunteering to go back?
We are doing remarkable things over there that are not covered by the news, so people like you can assume what is happening and crap on us with your hippy BS.

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NO TY USA wrote:

Hypocrisy 101: A Brief Review Of Hurricane Katrina
May 8, 2008
http://www.environmentalgraffiti.com/business...
I can't believe the ignorance on here. The American government knew those levees would give out like 10 years ago but did nothing about it. Don't blame the people or mayor of NO, this was just another example of the incompetent US government. I can't blame Puppet Bush but I can blame the people pulling his strings.

Cato wrote:

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I think that sending assistance to a small country devestated by a hurricane is one of the few examples where US foreign aid is politically neutral, and it's obviously money well spent.
Except for those isolated cases where worthless parents lock their children in a closet, there are no [starving] people in America. Even the homeless in America are not starving. Cold and sick maybe, but not starving.

brejamin wrote:

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Is that your assumption of what other leaders are thinking? Or is that just your opinion?
I think they won't accept our aid is because they have a facist government and they fear we will spread democracy.
You wonder how I came to that conclusion?
Maybe because their leaders have pretty much said that very thing.
The worse thing about your statement is you think they should let thousands die just to justify your hate for a country that all of you in the global community put through the ringer when we don't help or do.
This guy is another example why we should leave these people to their own. Why should we care what they do to each other? In their eyes we are damned if we do damned if we don't.

Chrs Robinson wrote:

<quoted text> However you live were you can afford in hopes that nothing serious will happen. The rescources were those of the elected govt. no that of the people. In fcat Amtrack had pulled a trin in, and offered at no charge to remove the people to safety, but was turnd down by Naygen, who played it as it wasnt as serious as was being made out. While I do understand his position as it was based upon that of safety, it was the wrong thing to do. His,(Naygen)reasoning for downplaying the seriousness, was to lessen the panic and all out for myself attitude. it is like yelling fire in a crowed theater with one exit, someone is going to pay with their life. I dont excuse Naygen in the least bit for his actions, as I was known as a troublemaker when it came to dealing with those above me and our govt. becasue I felt it was being handeled the wrong way, and downplayed a bit too much, but I was left in a position of my freedom or a jail in New Orleans, so I chose my freedom as I exited yelling the lies that were being told for the"safety" of the population.
I regards to persons not heading the warning, they must receive it first. again as a povershed area, not many more then a handfull actualy had a weather radio, which would have saved there lives, those who did get the message werent in the heart of New Orleans, but in Gretna, Harvey, Kenner, Meterie, and the other surrounding areas. The ones that were left behind typicaly were from the ninth ward and the general area. Not saying either that all had no warning, some truly didnt expect what they got, as history has shown this area has been hit before several times, and not all were as serious as made out to what they were claimed, and much like in the rest of the country people have a tendency to dismiss the sirens, and warnings telling them to take safety immediately.

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Sorry chris but I was there also and what Caffinated said is the truth. Those people choose to be there. I and many others seen these people do horrible things to each other. Instead of all pitching in and helping were they could. They confounded the problems. They made it worse then it should of been.
The problem is there are many more places that got damaged then N.O.. N.O. actually would have been fine if the levees would of held. It wasn't the storm, it was the lack of care of their society. You reap what you sow. Plain and simple.
You can blame the politicians but the people elected them. You reap what you sow.
You can blame the people that shot at helicopters, you can blame the people that murdered, you can blame the people who stole, an raped and you know what. You would actually come to the conclusion that people are responsible for their own actions.
Would you blame your bank if your broke by spending all your money on beer?
You made the bad choice but maybe the bank should of came in and told you what to spend your money on.