It's the Guns, Stupid

Apr 20, 2007 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Truthdig

“And that's the end of the issue”

Why do we have the same futile argument every time there is a mass killing? Advocates of gun control try to open a discussion about whether more reasonable weapons statutes might reduce the number of violent ... via Truthdig

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"Shooter at Sikh temple left trail of hate

...In 2011, Page wrote an email — with a subject line reading,“No registering of long guns”— to the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives:

“Wake Up!!!! No more restrictions on law abiding gun owners! These restrictions do nothing about the criminals they are meant to affect. Why punish and render defenseless the very people that deserve to be protected while HELPING the offenders with such laws? The only other use for such laws is for government to gain control over the people. This is America, and I AM THE GOVERNMENT, not you! Remember who you work for, and your oath!”

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OregonSUX wrote:
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True, you are stupid. You are also a filthy racist, a bigot and an anti-American nut case.
Libertarians (aka grumpy old losers)= Republiscum who want to smoke dope.
Let me guess: You disagree with others should they happen to stand up for their rights and refuse to be oppressed, but otherwise are congratulatory when you happen to agree with another person, correct?

There's a phycological term which describes that affliction: Bipolar disorder.
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OregonSUX wrote:
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Why don't you join me and my fellow Democrats? We molest kids nightly and shoot niggers during the day!!
Sick, twisted perv!!!
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OregonSUX wrote:
I wish I would have had a chance to kill some of them fuckng Sikh bastards!!!!!! I would have torured them first~!!!
Aren't you the compassionate one?
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OregonSUX wrote:
"Shooter at Sikh temple left trail of hate
...In 2011, Page wrote an email — with a subject line reading,“No registering of long guns”— to the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives:
“Wake Up!!!! No more restrictions on law abiding gun owners! These restrictions do nothing about the criminals they are meant to affect. Why punish and render defenseless the very people that deserve to be protected while HELPING the offenders with such laws? The only other use for such laws is for government to gain control over the people. This is America, and I AM THE GOVERNMENT, not you! Remember who you work for, and your oath!”
You exhibit an amazing degree of gullibility, because you appear to be repeating the uniformly propagated story as retold in the mainstream media.
If might interest you to know that there four individuals involved in that shooting you mention above, and witnesses discussed seeing all of the shooters lurking around the building days in advance as though they were assessing the premises.
Also, other witnesses also told both the police and the local news people that they witnessed three of the shooters drive away from the scene. They were all dressed in the very same way as the Aurora shooters: All dressed in black.
Note that I said 'shooters'(plural) in the Aurora shooting, but the police said there was only one shooter. Yet, there were two gas masks found outside the emergency door parking lot by the theater.
The police also fallaciously stated that the fire door had been kicked-in, but upon further inspection, that door exhibited no damage at all, as it is a steel-clad concrete door.
There are a few terms that you might want to familiarize yourself with:'False Flag operation,' and 'inside job,' because you're bound to see more of them in the days, weeks, and months ahead.
But you are totally free to believe whatever fantasy you desire, I guess as long as it fits your preconceived notions about matters.

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Dr Freud wrote:
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You exhibit an amazing degree of gullibility, because you appear to be repeating the uniformly propagated story as retold in the mainstream media.
If might interest you to know that there four individuals involved in that shooting you mention above, and witnesses discussed seeing all of the shooters lurking around the building days in advance as though they were assessing the premises.
Also, other witnesses also told both the police and the local news people that they witnessed three of the shooters drive away from the scene. They were all dressed in the very same way as the Aurora shooters: All dressed in black.
Note that I said 'shooters'(plural) in the Aurora shooting, but the police said there was only one shooter. Yet, there were two gas masks found outside the emergency door parking lot by the theater.
The police also fallaciously stated that the fire door had been kicked-in, but upon further inspection, that door exhibited no damage at all, as it is a steel-clad concrete door.
There are a few terms that you might want to familiarize yourself with:'False Flag operation,' and 'inside job,' because you're bound to see more of them in the days, weeks, and months ahead.
But you are totally free to believe whatever fantasy you desire, I guess as long as it fits your preconceived notions about matters.
So, you were there?

Do tell.

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"Watching White Supremacists React to the Sikh Temple Shooting

...It took nearly a half hour until someone finally asked, "So the shooter was 'one of us'?" PAT88, uploaded the unedited photos at 11:52am. "This is not looking good!... The media will have a field day with this."

Upon realizing that they can't write this off anymore, many were quick to condemn the shooting. "We as White Nationalists CONDEMN this outrageous mass murder!" assures Reichman. "There is no other word for it but murder!" Contrasting this Sikh temple shooting with the Aurora massacre, SussToTheJew begrudgingly admitted the obvious: this looks pretty bad for white supremacists. "I believe the 'Batman' shooter was just a friggin' nut," he wrote. "But if I was to play the game, I'd have to posit it this way: the Batman shooter was about guns—and here's the sticky bit—this nut is about Stormfront. It sounds like a case will be promoted here for 'closer scrutiny of hate sites'."

With a frowny emoticon, MattwhiteAmerica also acknowledged the undeniable, but included a plea that readers remember who the good guys are in this story:

This lone wolf stuff doesn't do anything besides play into reinforcing the brainwashing against us on whites we need on our side ... Anything Lone wolf is the jews wildest dream of showing the brainwashed that we're evil! We have to do everything in our power to paint a picture that we're the good guys that just care for preserving our people.

You read that right. Apparently, white supremacists are the good guys here. Even though the murder of six innocent people was probably racially motivated, carried out by a man who played in a White Power band and sported a tattoo of a symbol used in Stormfront's logo, clearly the people who regularly gather online to write things like this are the good guys" TAW
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Where Is My America wrote:
<quoted text>If the USA is looking for complete and utter failure in the greatest experiment in liberty and prosperity the world has known we need not do more then follow "Great Britain" down it's road to bankruptcy and domination of it's citizens.
No need to try and follow England; you are doing a good job of driving on your own road to

Bankruptcy. Elect the Republicans and you'll get there faster..

Your citizens are already dominated by crooked corporations and right-wing media.

Your greatest experiment never created the fabulous society you think it did.

You are slaves to the corporations and have been for decades. Their propaganda only made you think

you were free
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Dr Freud wrote:
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You exhibit an amazing degree of gullibility, because you appear to be repeating the uniformly propagated story as retold in the mainstream media.
If might interest you to know that there four individuals involved in that shooting you mention above, and witnesses discussed seeing all of the shooters lurking around the building days in advance as though they were assessing the premises.
Also, other witnesses also told both the police and the local news people that they witnessed three of the shooters drive away from the scene. They were all dressed in the very same way as the Aurora shooters: All dressed in black.
Note that I said 'shooters'(plural) in the Aurora shooting, but the police said there was only one shooter. Yet, there were two gas masks found outside the emergency door parking lot by the theater.
The police also fallaciously stated that the fire door had been kicked-in, but upon further inspection, that door exhibited no damage at all, as it is a steel-clad concrete door.
There are a few terms that you might want to familiarize yourself with:'False Flag operation,' and 'inside job,' because you're bound to see more of them in the days, weeks, and months ahead.
But you are totally free to believe whatever fantasy you desire, I guess as long as it fits your preconceived notions about matters.
HAHAHAHAHA. That was good. Do another one. HAHAHA.
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So, you were there?
Do tell.
He doesnt need to be there.
He is DR TROOFER. AKA Dr Fraud
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Light Bearer wrote:
As of May 29, 2012, according to the U.S. Department of Defense casualty website, there were 4,409 total deaths (including both killed in action and non-hostile) and 31,928 wounded in action (WIA) as a result of Operation Iraqi Freedom. War 2003-2012
In 2003 alone, 30,136 Americans died by gunfire: 16,907 in firearm suicides, 11,920 in firearm homicides, 730 in unintentional shootings, and 232 in firearm deaths of unknown intent, according to the National Center for Health Statistics. Nearly three times that number are treated in emergency rooms each year for nonfatal firearm injuries.
The second ammendment MILTIA managed to protect the US citizens by committing 240 Justifiable homicides.
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Whoa, thought it was a nightmare, low, it's all so true
They told me, don't go walkin' slow, the devil's on the loose
Better run through the Temple
Better run through the School
Better run through the Theatre, don't look back to see

Thought I heard a rumblin', callin' to my name
Two hundred million guns are loaded, SATAN cries, "Take aim"
Better run through the Factory
Better run through the Office
Better run through the Cinema, don't look back to see

In the Constitution, thunder magic spoke
"Let the people know my wisdom, fill the land with smoke"
Better run through the Suburb
Better run through the Mall
Better run through the Kindergarden, don't look back to see
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Git Sum Git Sum Git Sum
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#72752
Aug 8, 2012
 
Hope you got your things together.
Hope you are quite prepared to die.
Looks like we're in for nasty weather.
One eye is taken for an eye.

Don't go around tonight,
Well, it's bound to take your life,
There's a bad moon on the rise

“Imaginez tous les gens”

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Tray wrote:
<quoted text> These other writings have been posted to you over and over again yet you still deny them.
Can you read?
PAY ATTENTION!
I never denied them...I said I can post quotes and writings from the founding fathers that say the OPPOSITE!
So?
If it's not in the constitution, then it's moot...eh?
Tray wrote:
<quoted text> The Supreme Court IS overturning these illegalhttp://cap-n-ball.com/f athers.htm anti gun laws or have you missed it?
Which ones?
Your link does not show what you're referring to...it only gives random quotes.
What is this sup[posed to show me?
The founding fathers, were not at all opposed to gun control. They had all kinds of gun laws -- most notably laws barring black people from owning guns. They also required that all muskets be regularly inspected and registered.

....so?

In the 1960s, when the Black Panthers began carrying loaded guns on the streets (for self-defense against violent, racist cops) the California Legislature set out to limit the right to bear arms in public -- and Ronald Reagan, that staunch Second-Amendment guy who is worshiped by the NRA, fully supported the restrictions. In fact, he said in public that nobody should have the right to carry a loaded weapon on a public street!!!!
Reagan said that!
At least, not as long as black people were doing it.

.... And the folks who wrote the Second Amendment were all in favor of a "well-regulated militia" whose members -- at that time, the general (white) populace -- had to declare, register and present to government agents on a regular basis all of their firearms.
Tray wrote:
<quoted text> The founding fathers saw advances in weapons and the military and were very aware times change but people do not.
Proof please?
You keep making claims about the founding fathers thoughts as though you know what they intended personally.
Honey, no one knows!
MOSTLY, the founders were merely MEN. They were not GODS or disciples that were infallible or all knowing. Why do you act as though they are?
MOSTLY, even JEFFERSON said every constitution should be re-written every 19 years, as to not enslave future generations, to PAST ideas...get it yet?
Tray wrote:
<quoted text> Greed and the power hungry exist today as they always have..
You need to WAKE UP if you think it hasn't gotten worse.
Tray wrote:
<quoted text>The main killing weapon criminals used then was cutting weapons but none said "OH let's ban knives to stop crime".
....if you do not know the difference between a KNIFE and a GUN...then you need help!
Knives can not kill 80 people, in less than one minute!
A knife can not destroy the military.
lol
MOSTLY, if knives were as dangerous and deadly as guns, then you'd want to carry a KNIFE, and not a gun...eh?
Why not just carry a knife then?
Tray wrote:
<quoted text> Their idea to stop crime was making a life of crime a life or death choice. A rope in a tree stopped more crime than any anti-weapon law ever could.
...I thought you were for RIGHTS, not against them? YET, here^^^^ you are against their rights...I guess you pick and choose what "rights" we can exercise...eh?

“Imaginez tous les gens”

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Where Is My America wrote:
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You do not know what "Well Regulated" means in the context of the US Constitution.
Your opinion is MOOT!
Where Is My America wrote:
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It is not the same meaning as your back alley posts use it.
My post "uses it"?
How does a post manage to "use" something?
Where Is My America wrote:
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In fact , one may argue you have never used it correctly at any time because even if you use the wording well regulated to mean 20,000 laws one may say a quantity of law does not make it well regulated but simply regulated.
AGAIN...your opinion and what you THINK is moot!
NO ONE CARES WHAT YOU THINK!
...most people base it on FACTS, not what some random nerd on topix "thinks".
lol
Also, well regulated, and REGULATED....BOTH are good enough for me:)
Where Is My America wrote:
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Either way , you are wrong and you are always wrong.
More boring OPINION!
Got any substance or facts?
Where Is My America wrote:
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I would call a human "snow bunny" if she had a large appetite for cocaine.
Wonderful...but who cares?
Where Is My America wrote:
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You may use "snow bunny to mean something different.
Why thank you master!
I love getting permission from a "nobody" that allows me to use my profile name in the context I want!
lol
Where Is My America wrote:
<quoted text>PLEASE NOTE : This post may be ignored due to fact and truthfulness at your desecration.
This is the truth:
http://favim.com/orig/201105/04/Favim.com-336...
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Snow Bunny_ wrote:
<quoted text>Your opinion is MOOT!
<quoted text>My post "uses it"?
How does a post manage to "use" something?
<quoted text>AGAIN...your opinion and what you THINK is moot!
NO ONE CARES WHAT YOU THINK!
...most people base it on FACTS, not what some random nerd on topix "thinks".
lol
Also, well regulated, and REGULATED....BOTH are good enough for me:)
<quoted text>More boring OPINION!
Got any substance or facts?
<quoted text>Wonderful...but who cares?
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Why thank you master!
I love getting permission from a "nobody" that allows me to use my profile name in the context I want!
lol
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This is the truth:
http://favim.com/orig/201105/04/Favim.com-336...
It's always all about you, isn't it? Nobody but nobody else can ever be right because you're always right, even when you're dead wrong. I'll bet that you have sphincter muscle wrapped around your brain that absolutely shuts out all truth with a stranglehold second to none!

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Dr Freud wrote:
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It's always all about you, isn't it?
lol, if you say so:)
Dr Freud wrote:
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Nobody but nobody else can ever be right because you're always right, even when you're dead wrong.
Those are your words...not mine:)
Dr Freud wrote:
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I'll bet that you have sphincter muscle wrapped around your brain that absolutely shuts out all truth with a stranglehold second to none!
Riiiiiiiiight!

Is this really your rebuttal regarding my posts and Obama?

“Evolved hunter/gatherer”

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Snow Bunny_ wrote:
<quoted text>lol, if you say so:)
<quoted text>Those are your words...not mine:)
<quoted text>Riiiiiiiiight!
Is this really your rebuttal regarding my posts and Obama?
Well now let's see here.
Your posts
Obama
Sphincter muscles

Sounds about right on all fronts there sweetie.

“Imaginez tous les gens”

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Aquarius-WY wrote:
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Well now let's see here.
Your posts
Obama
Sphincter muscles
Sounds about right on all fronts there sweetie.
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