the Identity of Macedonians

Notice to FYROM:

FORMER YUGOSLAVS = you are slavic-macedonian but origins from Bulgars, has nothing to do with ancient Macedonian whose ethnic origins were and still is "Greek".

Go to OXFORD University in England you will learn the truth. Dobro den

"Only in Thessaly and Boetia, and outside Greece, in Macedonia, was there cavalry worthy of the name."

"The Peloponnesian War was a fratricidal war among the Greeks, a fact that was not altered by the intervention of foreign powers, Macedonia, for instance and later the Persian Empire."

("The Greeks and Persians, from the sixth to the fourth centuries" by Hermann Bengston; Delacorte Press, New York.)

Macedonians are hellenic pure! Makedones more as 3000 years!

http://macedoniaonline.eu/content/view/21668/...

MACEDONIA TIMELESS

Macedonians had always Greek names, toponyms, ways, heroes, gods, dialect and spread Greek Language and Civilization to the World.
Macedonians named after Greek names ALL the cities they built or renamed.
If any modern white people do what Macedonians did we will call them Macedonians.
Whoever denies Macedonians' Greekness is ignoramus or idiot or an imbecile SlavoSkopian propagandist.

Aristofanis wrote:

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F@ck you little Albino caucasian apearence,
ALBIOS = white
from ALBIOS come ALBANIAN Up your ARS....

Albanians are the original people of Europe, and there is current information, indicating that the Albanians are the most homogeneous in Europe, and all Balkan populations

23 Albanian between 2237 Europeans, a U.S. study on race

Two professors at the University of California, Peter Ralph and Graham Coop have published a study of the geography Actual Genetic ancestors throughout Europe.

This study has used a database called POPRES that has taken 2,237 Europeans genetic data. Their genetic data are used to verify the genealogical heritage of the inhabitants of Europe up to 3 thousand years ago.

Parts of this study were 9 genetic data from Albania and Albanians from Kosovo Albanians 14.(23 words Albanians are living in London and Lausanne).

This study provides a lot of discussion, however, results in the table on page 37 (follow the link at the end of the note) show that the Albanians are the most homogeneous in Europe and that all Balkan populations have a common ancestor with the Albanians that date back more than 2 thousand years ago, even before the Slavic invasions in these regions.

On page 15 of the study (Who are) say that modern Albanians may be descendants of people who lived in the eastern part of the Adriatic and today Salento (Italy) during the Roman period. Below is a bit from that part which referred to the Albanians:

"The highest level of the common identity is found in individuals who speak Albanian, who have a common background growth that comes from 1,500 years ago. It suggests that an important part of modern Albanian predecessors have been a relatively consistent and collect population has been stable for at least the past 1,500 years ... "

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This publication Scientific American authors of July 2012 may be consulted at:

The geography of recent genetic ancestry across Europe
(University of California at Davis, USA)

http://arxiv.org/pdf/1207.3815v1.pdf

samostojna MK wrote:

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We are at least, Macedonians in that land of F Yugo.,

You are just FYugos spaking Bulgarian. Macedonians were never in history like you.They were Greeks.

*speaking

Katherine wrote:

Just another point to add about the citizens of Fyrom who call themselves "Macedonians" and their diaspora as well, not only are they brainwashed and evil people they are truly MENTAL CASES, cause no normal rationl person would claim such blatant lies and propaganda the way they do and the most sickening part is they actually beleive their lies and they continue to try to cover up their lies with more lies.
LIES LIES LIES it is for FYROM.

The citysens of R. of Macedonia are many. Like in Athens.
Mighority are Macedonians. Happy to have one of divide part of their motherland free from opresion. Many live in Diaspora. Just like Greeks. Does Greek diaspora denies Greeks their national identity?
I am not shore in which spectrum of understanding is your mental state, but it can not be in the light, right and justice.
By denial of Macedonian existance outside Egean Macedonia/Greece, you are denying your self true knowlladg.

samostojna MK wrote:

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The citysens of R. of Macedonia are many. Like in Athens.
Mighority are Macedonians. Happy to have one of divide part of their motherland free from opresion. Many live in Diaspora. Just like Greeks. Does Greek diaspora denies Greeks their national identity?
I am not shore in which spectrum of understanding is your mental state, but it can not be in the light, right and justice.
By denial of Macedonian existance outside Egean Macedonia/Greece, you are denying your self true knowlladg.

All your ancestors during 1200 years from Tsar Samuil , Saint Naum , Saint Klement to Milidanov brothers where ALL proud Bulgarians. Your language was considered a Bulgarian dialect before communist renamed it 1944 . Your territory was Paeonia during antiquity , later Bulgarian empire , Kosovo Vilayet , Vardar Banovina.

Never ever where you Macedonians on the contrary you where the enemies of Macedonians. So fast you forgot the words of your own proud hero's? Time to sort out your identity problems?

"anyway, what sort of new Macedonian nation can this be when we and our fathers and grandfathers and great-grandfathers have always been called Bulgarians?

Krste Misirkov, "On Macedonian Matters", Macedonian Review Editions 1903

They stole it. They renamed what was Serbian, Bulgarian and Greek and you did nothing about it.

Thrilos wrote:

Hell all , Lets try to remember the forum's theme , The Identity of Macedonians . It is easy .... They are Hellenes . However ,(to put it briefly ) a Slavic conquest of the area occurred and after the Byzantine forces of Basil II defeated the Slavs , under Tsar Samuel , Basil II permitted them to stay in the region .Thus there has been a Slavic culture there for about a Millenium .These people occupied the northen Byzantine lands however it is important to note that there were still many Greeks living (and still do )in the region . The Slavs of todays FYROM did not adopt the Title of Macedonian till Tito came around . My point is this , I don't say that the FYROM slavs should leave the area as others do , After all 1000 plus years is a long time but they should not lay claim to the legacy of the Hellenic state of Macedonia . They have a history and should be proud of it . By attemting to adopt the Hellenic past as their own they are only proving to themselves that they have no past and that the Hellenic ideals were totally overwhelming .

What you ment to explain is, that after Greece exterminated 80%
of Macedonians out from Egean part, it resetled some lost souls
from Asia minor, tought them Greek, and Krisend them, so the new Greeks become Kristians, and in this way Hellenised That part of invided Macedonia, So be it. Hellenic state of Macedonia was born.
Be clear when you are explaining Greek history in persut of our agreament.

samostojna MK wrote:

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What you ment to explain is, that after Greece exterminated 80%
of Macedonians out from Egean part, it resetled some lost souls
from Asia minor, tought them Greek, and Krisend them, so the new Greeks become Kristians, and in this way Hellenised That part of invided Macedonia, So be it. Hellenic state of Macedonia was born.
Be clear when you are explaining Greek history in persut of our agreament.

Bad english do not make the lies true.

You are NOT a Makedonian.

samostojna MK wrote:

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What you ment to explain is, that after Greece exterminated 80%
of Macedonians out from Egean part, it resetled some lost souls
from Asia minor, tought them Greek, and Krisend them, so the new Greeks become Kristians, and in this way Hellenised That part of invided Macedonia, So be it. Hellenic state of Macedonia was born.
Be clear when you are explaining Greek history in persut of our agreament.

You former Bulgarians are lost in your propaganda. There is a reason why 400 world famouse historians writes about you lost Bulgarians. They write quote:

"the government in Skopje to understand that it cannot build a national identity at the expense of historic truth. Our common international society cannot survive when history is ignored, much less when history is fabricated."

Your whole identity is fabricated. The whole world knows you used to be Bulgarians not long time ago. What a surprise you sitll use Bulgarian city names like Solun instead of original Macedonian /Greek. What a surprise you have Bulgarian names like Zlatko , Zoran , Ivan. What a surprise all your real ancestors like Tsar Samuil where all Bulgarian. What a surprise you have renamed ALL of Bulgarias historical persons to "Macedonians"

Zlatko it is time for you to educate yourself and fix your identity problems. Zlatko you where never Macedonians and you cant prove it either. So sad for you

The European Association of History Educators, Euroclio has concluded that the former Bulgarians in Fyrom need to rewrite their falsified history. They recomend instead of teaching propaganda to its children they should teach easy basics of history.

“The current&#65279; history curricula in the Fyrom have to be rethought and revised … Groups of innovative skilled history educators and historians, but also a wider audience should be involved in this process. "

So to all Zlatkos from Fyrom that pretends to be "Macedonians". What The European Association of History Educators, Euroclio is saying is that you should start to stop lying to your children and teach your real Bulgarian history.

Dont be ashamed of your real roots. Bulgarians also have a great history. There is no need to try to steal and falsify history because you have an identity crisis.

samoil roden vo makedonija, krale marko roden vo makedonija, itar pejo roden vo makedonija, i taka natamu....... i mavnete mi se od kurov od mojata zemja!

car samoil roden vo makedonija, krale marko roden vo makedonija, itar pejo roden vo makedonija i taka natamu... trgnete mi se od kurov od mojata zemja!...gnidi edni krvopii!

ke ve ebam wrote:

car samoil roden vo makedonija, krale marko roden vo makedonija, itar pejo roden vo makedonija i taka natamu... trgnete mi se od kurov od mojata zemja!...gnidi edni krvopii!

Wrong, subhuman, Samuil is a Bulgarian tsar, not a fyromian mongrel.

Fyromians, you are not originated from 'Alexander the Great' the real Macedonians are.

The fake (Slavo)makedones have an identity crisis and most likely are descended from an un-name 'Man on a horse' whose identity they have to prove. No need, I can name him Zivko/ Zlatko/Dragan/Goche/, but i will give you the honour to pick any Slav-Bulgarian name you wish. I'm so fair.

dobro den.