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“...a river of conscience ...”
Joined: Oct 17, 2007
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D1-25-5 BR wrote: <quoted text>
I do not know the definition of a TAO. I'm just an old farm boy in his twilight years. However, I know good from bad. I have through the years been
luckily afforded time to dwell upon the world as it is, and have come to realise that if god did not want us to pass judgement, and to take a position of right/wrong based upon the perceptive ability he has provided to us, then we would not have been provided us with capacity to begin with.
And I know this. All govt. and al religious authority are more interested in control than they are in right and wrong. Same for corporate entity's. How to enlighten the people? How to save them from a**holes with $ and guns? What about all that burned up energy used on hate? I dunno.. Shakespear said " in order to improve things in general, we must first kill all of the lawyers".. Jefferson said " a little revolution now and then is a good thing" pATTON SAID, " GIVE ME 200,00 GALLONS OF GAS , AND i'LL KILL GERMANS", AND I say, "Yer all gonna die, people screw, what is, is, And what we wish it was, ain't". Based upon the certain truth ( from my perspective)That these words of truth and wit, are true, the outlook is bleak. Best regards. Disregard the others, that's all you can do. You fella, may not know what the Tao is, but I'll tell you what, your way thru life, and that's all the Tao is, is definitely in accord with it. I don't have the words that I had this afternoon. All I can say is that you're a helluva guy, one of very few to have impressed me enough to say that I like you, and I like your attitude! On the senses, yes well we do have them but they can only tell us a limited amount. To be aware of god we really need to engage deeper senses within our consciousness, and keep practicing. It's not about thinking, it about disconnecting from thought and going higher, lighter, faster, wider, deeper ... and any other description we can think of. These are just words, and mean nothing. But this is all crap and I don't need to be telling you anything. You're nearly there and digging it!
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“...a river of conscience ...”
Joined: Oct 17, 2007
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D1-25-5 BR wrote: <quoted text>
Don't worry about the music thing. I still pick my guitar. I live for the vibes. My favorite movie is vanishing point. " better to die than succumb to the will of ignorant, brain dead puppies who live their lives with their lips wrapped around the genital projections attached to corporate, religious, and gov't assholes. Likewise, a pleasure speaking to you sir. I have to work now.. I am so please. I think I would rather be permanently blind then permanently deaf. It's a tough call. But playing the guitar is so cool. Even with bad hearing, if it's electric, you can whack up the control to 7 or 8 and feel the feedback. What would Voodoo Chile be without the feedback :-) Vanishing Point .... "Kowalski seems indifferent as to why he drives, only that he must drive, must evade, must get to where he is going and will not - can not - be stopped." You know what, I've not seen that blasted movie. Or if I have it was so long ago that I don't remember it. Must correct that mistake. The nearest I got, and this was with a young family so there were differences to the movie! But we went across Europe in a car for 6 months, just driving wherever the road took us. The wife was getting fed up and the girl was only 2-1/2 years old, so there were ups and downs. But for a life in microcosm, it was fantastic. And the pull of the road, the urge to just drive to see around the next bend is awesome. And that is following the Taoist path. It is not a pre-planned corporation outing, its following your own nature to where it leads, all the way being disconnected from your logical, ever thinking, ever fearful, ever greedy mind and just concentrating on the road in front of you, only the present moment, not the past and not the future, just the here and now this instant being the only reality that concerns you. That sounds like a good movie.
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“...a river of conscience ...”
Joined: Oct 17, 2007
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D1-25-5 BR wrote: <quoted text>
.....Fear not Ariel. USA is with you.
soon we will rule the world together, cause soon ther will be no arabs left.... .. but there are also areas where we disagree big time! But disagreements are fine, it's the differences which make us stronger. Provided there are no hot heads in power, or brain dead Presidents, or religion indoctrinated Leaders. Emotions and thoughts are good. But correct action is even better.
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falasha
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Kowalski. He must be the unsung hero of a generation. Vanishing along the Snake of the Caduses, is it a dream? A flashback? The first branding of a Challenger?
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I ll drink to that
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Mr Truthiness wrote: <quoted text>
LOL!!! Really, then why is it, after 60 years Israel can't even get a simple loan without the US co-signing for it? Perhaps, but I wonder who they buy all those weapons of death off of? Keeping Americans in work. Ever heard the term boomerang aid?
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Andre
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hello all, don't be inimical for each other, better ad for making peace and cooperate..peace..!!
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I ll drink to that
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Mr Truthiness wrote: <quoted text>
Actually, Israel is the only Country that is exempt from the US policy requiring US Military aid be spent on US made arms. They are allowed to spend it anywhere and on anything they wish. Like I said before, perhaps - I know they get aid from America; you'd need a pretty fantastic economy to sustain military and intelligence spending of the magnitude of Israel's. Personally I don't buy the Zionist lobby theory as postulated to death on this posting forum. There is no argument America is pro-Israel in its policies, but I think it is part of a much bigger picture than a few Jew politicians or Film Directors. The Middle East, stretching as far up as the Balkans in Europe, is extremely unstable and has been so for hundreds of years. The Ottoman Empire left a power vacum that has never been filled properly. The USA only really cares about money, and the ability of its Corporations to achieve economic growth - its the foundation of the entire country and cannot be achieved worldwide without stability. Its economy is dependent on oil as we all know - nothing new - the bulk of this is in the middle east. America is after spheres of influence, and in the unstable region of the Middle East Israel is the best it has. This is why it supports Israel. IF people get killed along the way, who cares so long as economic growth is in double digits! Most other Middle Eastern countries have Governments that are a joke, either barely clinging to power - or dictated to by tin pot Imams who know little of politics or economics but much about the utterings of some old desert Arab. If there were any kind of genuine unity amongst the "Umma" the US would have to rethink its relationship with Israel. But there is no unity. Indeed the Saudi regime cares more about its luxury German cars, French Chateauxs and high class hookers than any Palestinian on the bread line. Environmetalism is the way forward, and the oil is running out in the Middle East anyway. Then we can get back to our daily lives, our children won't have to go to be butchered or maimed by religious lunatics in Iraq and Afghanistan - and we can go to work without the threat of being blown up by some 19 year old "Martyr" who has barely read the Qu'ran (assuming he can read).
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Boy Frayne
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Ahmadinejad can kiss my a $$!
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Peter
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Exciting news for 911 truth seekers.John Lear,son of the father of the Learjet and a highly experienced and accomplished pilot himself has said there were no plane crashes on 911 and that the speeds attributed to "UA 175" were imposible.His detailed and technical discourse is captured in an hour long interview with Morgan Reynolds.It's on Google video.
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Bender
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Long Live Israel,
Long Live Iran,
Down with all religions
In the name of peace, In the name of Humanity
Amen
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falasha
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Peter wrote: Exciting news for 911 truth seekers.John Lear,son of the father of the Learjet and a highly experienced and accomplished pilot himself has said there were no plane crashes on 911 and that the speeds attributed to "UA 175" were imposible.His detailed and technical discourse is captured in an hour long interview with Morgan Reynolds.It's on Google video. Oh. Well if he is the son of the father he must know his stuff! Of course, that would mean we must all suspend all concepts of reality. But since he is the son of the father we must take his word for it.
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falasha
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I ll drink to that wrote: <quoted text>
Like I said before, perhaps - I know they get aid from America; you'd need a pretty fantastic economy to sustain military and intelligence spending of the magnitude of Israel's.
Personally I don't buy the Zionist lobby theory as postulated to death on this posting forum.
There is no argument America is pro-Israel in its policies, but I think it is part of a much bigger picture than a few Jew politicians or Film Directors.
The Middle East, stretching as far up as the Balkans in Europe, is extremely unstable and has been so for hundreds of years.
The Ottoman Empire left a power vacum that has never been filled properly.
The USA only really cares about money, and the ability of its Corporations to achieve economic growth - its the foundation of the entire country and cannot be achieved worldwide without stability.
Its economy is dependent on oil as we all know - nothing new - the bulk of this is in the middle east.
America is after spheres of influence, and in the unstable region of the Middle East Israel is the best it has. This is why it supports Israel. IF people get killed along the way, who cares so long as economic growth is in double digits!
Most other Middle Eastern countries have Governments that are a joke, either barely clinging to power - or dictated to by tin pot Imams who know little of politics or economics but much about the utterings of some old desert Arab.
If there were any kind of genuine unity amongst the "Umma" the US would have to rethink its relationship with Israel. But there is no unity.
Indeed the Saudi regime cares more about its luxury German cars, French Chateauxs and high class hookers than any Palestinian on the bread line.
Environmetalism is the way forward, and the oil is running out in the Middle East anyway.
Then we can get back to our daily lives, our children won't have to go to be butchered or maimed by religious lunatics in Iraq and Afghanistan - and we can go to work without the threat of being blown up by some 19 year old "Martyr" who has barely read the Qu'ran (assuming he can read). I agree with everything you said except I don't know Umma.(Thurman?) Please add the fact that Americans are no different from Brits when it comes to wanting the best for our children. We want them to be safe, well educated and decent human beings. But I do agree we worship Almighty Dollar.
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falasha wrote: <quoted text>
I agree with everything you said except I don't know Umma.(Thurman?) Please add the fact that Americans are no different from Brits when it comes to wanting the best for our children. We want them to be safe, well educated and decent human beings. But I do agree we worship Almighty Dollar. I believe Umma means the worldwide Islamic community, or words to that effect, in Arabic.
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Amy
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It's easy to speak when you don't have Israel as a neighor, but when you do.. and when you know from direct experience what a criminal and terrorist state Israel really is, you will reslish the day Israel and the Israelis pack their bags and go back to where the hell they ever came from. Arab Jews can stay because they are Arab Semites like us, but the occupying eastern European and Russian Zionists...can go to the US and sap more American blood there...
20 more years left maximum for Israel on the map... and then its back to Palestine.
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Amy wrote: It's easy to speak when you don't have Israel as a neighor, but when you do.. and when you know from direct experience what a criminal and terrorist state Israel really is, you will reslish the day Israel and the Israelis pack their bags and go back to where the hell they ever came from. Arab Jews can stay because they are Arab Semites like us, but the occupying eastern European and Russian Zionists...can go to the US and sap more American blood there...
20 more years left maximum for Israel on the map... and then its back to Palestine. "Genesis 15:17-21, 17:7:'And it came about when the sun had set, that it was very dark, and behold,[there appeared] a smoking oven and a flaming torch which passed between these pieces. On that day the LORD made a covenant with Abram, saying, "To your descendants I have given this land, From the river of Egypt as far as the great river, the river Euphrates: the Kenite and the Kenizzite and the Kadmonite and the Hittite and the Perizzite and the Rephaim and the Amorite and the Canaanite and the Girgashite and the Jebusite.'" "'And I will establish My covenant between Me and you and your descendants after you throughout their generations for an everlasting covenant, to be G-d to you and to your descendants after you.'" What land do you think is being referred to here?
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Maverick
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"Blessed be the LORD your G-d who delighted in you to set you on the throne of Israel; because the LORD loved Israel forever, therefore He made you king, to do justice and righteousness."
1 Kings 10:9
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Maverick
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Isaiah 43:3
“For I am ETERNAL your SOVEREIGN the Holy One of Israel, your Savior; I gave Egypt for your ransom, Ethiopia and Seba in your place.”
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Moiz Qidwai wrote: <quoted text>
Islam and Science always go hand in hand. There never was, neither is and there never will be any conflict between Science and Islam.
Why I am so sure? Because true science only deals with the working principles and finding out how things are working.....These are exactly as per guidelines of Islam....where God asks us to ponder, reflect and find out how different things in nature are working.
The age of science started with the start of revelation of Quran!!! The first word which was revealed to our prophet was "IQRA" meaning READ or RECITE.
Islam and Muslims are not enemy of science , technology or learning.
We are only against this godless society, where pseudo scientists turn them into Philosphers and coin out theories without sufficent proofs.
Theories that No Creator Exists for this universe. Theories that every thing in universe evolved by itself....theories like there is no life after we die...theories like our life on this earth has no higher purpose...etc etc.
Yes it was Bad Luck that Muslims did not reach to America with the first batch of settlers.
Now you are in total grip of Zionists, who are leading your great nation to a suicidal path...away from nature...away from God....closer to you avowed enemy...the Devil.
We can only prey GOD SAVE AMERICA!! First of all i respect islam....u said"We are only against this godless society, where pseudo scientists turn them into Philosphers and coin out theories without sufficent proofs".....i wanna ask u......PLZ SHOW PROOF of these:1>THERE IS LIFE AFTER DEATH........2>UNIVERSE DID NOT EVOLVE BY ITSELF..........3>A CREATOR EXISTS..........my advice to all of u guys out there.....only take the SPIRITUAL ASPECT OF RELIGION........BELIEVE IN GOD.......BUT WORSHIP IN THE "TEMPLE OF SCIENCE"..........spiritu al aspect of religion means FOLLOW THE TRUE MESSAGE OF BIBLE,QURAN,GITA(all r same)in ur lives........
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Moiz Qidwai wrote: <quoted text>
I know that it is 21st Century, and not middle ages, that is why Islam is still spreading in all parts of the world!! People are accepting Islam in all parts of the world, with free choice, without any force. In Middle ages, you used to burn people if they changed their religion!!
There is no dream of world domination of Islam, we do not want power. Power stays with the same people, only they change their course. Instead of worshipping false gods or human beings as gods they turn their face to True God of this Universe.
It was not because of force conversions that Muslims lost Spain. It was because of their infighting and not spreading the message of Islam to the other areas of Europe. You either grow or you shrink, there is no status quo in these things.
Muslims ruled India for more than 700 years. Many of our ancestors accepted Islam, when they saw its beauty and logic. They were not forced to accept, otherwise 70 % of Indian Population would not have been Non Muslim after so many centuries of Muslim rule. In fact this is a living proof that Muslims did not use force to spread their religion.
Now I ask our Hindu brothers, if our forefathers saw the logic and beauty of Islam and accepted it, and we, their descendents, also find it logical and beautiful, why should we go back to Hinduism?
The only reason could be, if they prove to us, that Hinduism is a better religion than Islam. But they never answer back to this question, only saying that since our forefathers were once Hindus, we should revert back to Hinduism. Is it a fair logic?
Then they would say, Arabs before the time of Mohammad (PBUH) were Pagans, so Arabs should revert back to Idol Worship! LIES DAMM LIES......MORE THAN 70% OF INDIANS ARE HINDUS BCOZ OF THE BEAUTY OF HINDUISM....majority of hindus are also the most tolerent,peaceloving people of the world......they are far more civilised ......for example in the indian subcontinent only INDIA ESTABLISHED TRUE DEMOCRACY.......LARGEST DEMOCRACY IN THE WORLD......hindus have taught many great things to the world.......for example YOGA,AYURVEDA,buddha's teachings are also inspired by hinduism......he was a hindu........ALL OF THESE ARE PROVED SCIENTIFICALLY BY WESTERN SCIENTISTS..many westerners follow YOGA ......many westerners will b amazed to note that many indians ACCEPT JESUS ,BUDDHA as GODLY FIGURES..my muslim friend will never tell u the fact that COUNTLESS PLUNDERING,LOOTING OF TEMPLES OCCURED DURING MUSLIM RULE......many hindus go for pilgrimage to various temples....in the past during muslim rule .....TAXES WERE LEVIED ON HINDUS FOR UNDERTAKING PILGRIMAGE........now comming to the point of about 80% indians are hindus......inspite of 800 years of muslim rule proves that LARGE MAJORITY OF HINDUS REJECTED ISLAM.......lastly in 21st century:- 1>12 to 14 % of scientists,engineers working in MICROSOFT are INDIANS.(allmost all of them are hindus). 2>more than 30% techies working in NASA are indians(again majority hindus). today every major corporation has large number of indian people working in high end jobs.
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HINDUISM permits hindus to pray in CHURCHES,TEMPLES,MOSQUES...... bcoz hindus believe........,."As many faiths, so many paths.The paths vary, but the goal remains the same. Harmony of religions is not uniformity; it is unity in diversity It is not a fusion of religions, but a fellowship of religions based on their common goal -communion with God"--SRI RAMAKRISHNA
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