MANILA: China to Philippines: Quit Scarborough Shoal

Apr 18, 2012 Full story: Asia News Network 15,248

China has asked all Philippine vessels to leave immediately Scarborough Shoal and sent a second aircraft buzzing over the area to scare away Filipino fishermen, officials said yesterday.

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Don the Chinese

Quezon City, Philippines

#9280 Aug 6, 2012
commentators such as (put name here of all the 50centers in this forum), no doubt, represent the hardline extreme of PRC posters here–may decry "imperialist" powers such as the United States and its lackeys (read: anyone else who might trump China's "destiny"), the reality is that the PRC is acting just as imperialist as those it criticizes; as someone else mentioned, not since the Roman Empire have we seen an attempt like that of the PRC to turn a body of water into an area of exclusive sovereignty where none may pass without permission. This, coupled with the development and deployment of Anti-Access/Area Denial weapons such as the DF-21D suggests that the PRC is going to attempt something that will provoke the US to act in the defense of others……and it wants to ensure that the US will pay too high a price to intervene in whatever conflict is on the horizon.
RESISTANCE IS FUTILE

Delta, Canada

#9281 Aug 6, 2012
Can China’s Consumers Save West?
January 04, 2012
By John Berthelsen

China’s huge domestic market has long fueled dreams that once its consumers are unleashed, rising demand will help heal ailing Western economies. Don’t count on it.
Can China’s Consumers Save West?
Related Features

Although a long succession of Western leaders, bankers and finance officials have held out the holy grail of the Chinese consumer’s purchase of Western exports as the savior of flagging economies, it may well remain a distant dream.

It’s certainly true that China, with an embarrassing $3 trillion in foreign exchange reserves and trade and current account surpluses that amount to 10 percent of gross domestic product, has been seeking to drive up imports.

Yu Ping, vice chairman of the China Council for the Promotion of International Trade, told reporters at the Asia Pacific Economic Co-operation forum in Hawaii in November that the current five-year plan is focused on balancing imports and exports. The plan, he said,“demonstrates China’s resolution to improve its status in technological development as well as its determination to leverage the country’s massive domestic market.” As an example of that resolve, Vice Minister of Commerce Zhong Shan said in Shanghai in September that the commerce ministry was considering cutting taxes on imported consumer goods and was soliciting guidelines to encourage more imports. Andy Rothman, the China macro strategist for CLSA in Hong Kong, in a recent report pointed out that China’s share of personal consumption expenditure for U.S. goods has doubled over the past decade, with U.S. exports of electronics, agricultural and other products to China rising by 468 percent from 2000 to 2010.

Still, there are formidable structural obstacles to raising consumer spending in China that could take decades to unravel. Chinese household savings are as high as 50 percent, partly due to the region’s traditional conservatism, but also because the country lacks a social safety net. Pensions are almost nonexistent, along with reliable health insurance – either government or private. The education system is equally troubled, to the point where families who want to give their children adequate schooling must send them to private institutions. While the university system is improving, many wealthy Chinese send their children overseas.

Consumers are also cautious. According to government statistics, private household consumption was only 37 percent of gross domestic product in 2009, down from 49 percent in 1990, a fact that’s likely best explained by the massive rise in GDP over the period. In the United States, by contrast, household consumption accounts for 70 percent of GDP, including spending on health care by both individuals and government.

http://thediplomat.com/2012/01/04/can-china%E...
Don the Chinese

Quezon City, Philippines

#9282 Aug 6, 2012
China's solution to its regional territorial claims is a bigger gun.
RESISTANCE IS FUTILE

Delta, Canada

#9283 Aug 6, 2012
heee heee hoooo hooooooo hoooo hooo heeee heeee hooo hooo heee heee....

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Why the Chinese Trade Deficit Is a Positive Signal
Published: Monday, 12 Mar 2012 | 1:35 AM ET

By: Ansuya Harjani
Assistant Producer, CNBC Asia

While China logged its largest monthly trade deficit in two decades in February, market watchers say the pick up in imports is positive as it reflects strength in the country’s domestic economy.

“Imports surged more than 30 percent - it means domestic demand is strong, it will drive growth, and that's good news,” Dariusz Kowalczyk, Chief Investment Strategist, Credit Agricole, told CNBC on Monday.

Imports rose at a faster-than-expected rate of 39.6 percent year on year in February from a 15.3 percent contraction in January. While, exports climbed at a slower-than-expected rate of 18.4 percent, compared to a contraction of 0.5 percent in the previous month. As a result, China’s trade balance turned to a deficit of $31.5 billion, far exceeding expectations for a deficit of $4.9 billion.

Uwe Parpart, MD & Head of Research, Reorient Financial Markets, agrees that surging imports are an encouraging sign, adding that the data boosts the case for investing in mainland consumer stocks.

“What surprised (me) is that people seem to be complaining about Chinese trade deficit all of a sudden when everybody's been calling for it for years. China is finally importing more than it’s exporting. That's the restructuring everyone's been asking for,” Parpart said.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/46701809/Why_the_Chine...
Don the Chinese

Quezon City, Philippines

#9284 Aug 6, 2012
This “Territory (e.g. nine-dotted line) takes precedence over UNCLOS” subject has been debated to death on this site as well as all over the world, yet China and her army of 50centers drag this old rag out with exactly same silly arguments and posts as if it was new here again, it makes people wonder whether China and her army of 50centers have some kind of deficiencies in undersanding that the entire rest of the world laughs at their baseless claims to sovereignty in the waters to the South of China and at their childish propaganda and overblown rhetoric.
Don the Chinese

Quezon City, Philippines

#9285 Aug 6, 2012
You have to accept that when the PRC uses the universally understood terms "peace", "international law", "territorial seas", "high seas", "history", and even the five canons of Confucius teachings "humanity", "politeness", "respect", "truth" and "parole", it is always with the caveat of the PRC invention "with Chinese characteristics".
Don the Chinese

Quezon City, Philippines

#9286 Aug 6, 2012
I think another issue is being overlooked – why does China claim all these islands? Sure seems they want the oil.
If they get that oil – will it be sold on the open market as all oil is now sold? Or will it become the exclusive property of China? Right now we have an open market system of oil sales – which seems the best so far. Everyone has a chance to bid for the oil. But if a country starts to restrict oil from the market – this sets a very dangerous precedent and will force other nations to start doing the same – now that is WWIII for sure!
Don the Chinese

Quezon City, Philippines

#9287 Aug 6, 2012
The first communiqué text submitted in Phnom Penh was drafted jointly by Indonesia, Malaysia, Philippines and Vietnam. This text was turned down by the Chair, and only the Chair. So, Indonesia, Malaysia, Philippines and Vietnam were not "diplomatic" enough? According to Hor Namhong or to Beijing?
Americans so easily FOOL

Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia

#9288 Aug 6, 2012
Don the Chinese wrote:
China's new tactic to claim ownership of SCS:
Increase use of disguised fishing fleprovoke this incident (say death of a couple of Chinese "fishermen").
Like chinaman CEV disguising as chinaman Don the Chinese or chinaman Donkey Kong in here.

Not everybody is that low IQ like you chinaman CEV.

China has the world largest fishing community and fleet. And they fish all over the world.
In SCS alone, there are 100,000 fishermen!
More than the entire Armed Forces of Philippines.
RESISTANCE IS FUTILE

Delta, Canada

#9289 Aug 6, 2012
EVERYBODYS HAPPY wrote:
We will take a few Pinays as wives. This should improve their lot in life.
to anybody thinking about marrying a Filipina...

sure you can get a nice looking tight little brown Filipina

but when you marry a Filipina you marry her beggar family...

the whole family becomes beggars...

20 to 50 year old grown men and women will be crying and begging for money (give me da moneeeeeeeeeee)

best option is if you have to marry the girl and move her far away from the beggar family...
Don the Chinese

Quezon City, Philippines

#9290 Aug 6, 2012
China CAN NOT prove her claims by telling to all people that China owns “this and that” since in ancient times. China tried to brandished chinese name to those islands and shoals to make it sounds like China really owns them. Small countries like Philippines practice jurisdiction over scarborough shoal and other islands within their EEZ as mandated by international laws and supported by significant treaties and history very much different on barbaric China.
Americans so easily FOOL

Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia

#9291 Aug 6, 2012
Chinaman CEV or Don the Chinese wrote:
The first communiqué text submitted in Phnom Penh was drafted joiording to Hor Namhong or to Beijing?
No matter how many LIES you post, ASEAN will not joined your PRIVATE WAR which AQUINO is initiating on behalf of USA.

ASEAN stance is very STRAIGHT FORWARD!

ASEAN are not a MILITARY BLOC and all issue to be discussed BILATERALLY between the claimants.

Hahahahah
Don the Chinese

Quezon City, Philippines

#9292 Aug 6, 2012
There is no need to fight over the EEZ. If all accept UNCLOS, they have the option of peacefully settling their disputes through ITLOS.(and China has the privilege of a judge sitting in this court)

Needless to say, if peace is not China's objective, she is free to gamble with the use of dark force. But then don't cry if, by miscalculation China end up like Nazy Germany or Imperial Japan.
Americans so easily FOOL

Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia

#9293 Aug 6, 2012
RESISTANCE IS FUTILE wrote:
Can China’s Consumers Save West?
January 04, 2012
By John Berthelsen
China’s huge domestic market has long fueled dreams that once its consumers are unleashed, rising demand will help heal ailing Western economies. Don’t count on it.
Can China’s Consumers Save West?
Related Features
Although a long succession of Western leaders, bankers and finance officials have held out the holy grail of the Chinese consumer’s purchase of Western exports as the savior of flagging economies, it may well remain a distant dream.
It’s certainly true that China, with an embarrassing $3 trillion in foreign exchange reserves and trade and current account surpluses that amount to 10 percent of gross domestic product, has been seeking to drive up imports.
Yu Ping, vice chairman of the China Council for the Promotion of International Trade, told reporters at the Asia Pacific Economic Co-operation forum in Hawaii in November that the current five-year plan is focused on balancing imports and exports. The plan, he said,“demonstrates China’s resolution to improve its status in technological development as well as its determination to leverage the country’s massive domestic market.” As an example of that resolve, Vice Minister of Commerce Zhong Shan said in Shanghai in September that the commerce ministry was considering cutting taxes on imported consumer goods and was soliciting guidelines to encourage more imports. Andy Rothman, the China macro strategist for CLSA in Hong Kong, in a recent report pointed out that China’s share of personal consumption expenditure for U.S. goods has doubled over the past decade, with U.S. exports of electronics, agricultural and other products to China rising by 468 percent from 2000 to 2010.
Still, there are formidable structural obstacles to raising consumer spending in China that could take decades to unravel. Chinese household savings are as high as 50 percent, partly due to the region’s traditional conservatism, but also because the country lacks a social safety net. Pensions are almost nonexistent, along with reliable health insurance – either government or private. The education system is equally troubled, to the point where families who want to give their children adequate schooling must send them to private institutions. While the university system is improving, many wealthy Chinese send their children overseas.
Consumers are also cautious. According to government statistics, private household consumption was only 37 percent of gross domestic product in 2009, down from 49 percent in 1990, a fact that’s likely best explained by the massive rise in GDP over the period. In the United States, by contrast, household consumption accounts for 70 percent of GDP, including spending on health care by both individuals and government.
The low IQ PINYOY here will not understand because their is a BANANA economy and they THINK it is the most important in the world.

Funny things is the payments are remitted home directly to families!!!! Hahahahahah
Don the Chinese

Quezon City, Philippines

#9294 Aug 6, 2012
International Courts are created for exactly the situation of no clear-cut historical arguments, and exactly, to avoid war as the only recourse. Obviouly, bullies and warmongers do not want to subject themselves to arbitration. Nobody can force a bully to go to court, that's International Law. Forcing China to refuse international arbitration is showing smart diplomacy.
Don the Chinese

Quezon City, Philippines

#9295 Aug 6, 2012
UNCLOS says only islands can have EEZ. Rocks MAY have territorial waters.
Besides UNCLOS, China has no proof of sovereignty on Scarborough (as anybody else, it's virtually impossible for China to prove sovereignty over rocks of about a meter square each). China has no proof of first discovery neither, which discovery, even if proven, does not lead automatically to sovereignty. That's universally accepted International Law. That's what the judges sitting in ICJ, including the Chinese judge, would apply.
Dong King Kong

Quezon City, Philippines

#9296 Aug 6, 2012
RESISTANCE IS FUTILE wrote:
<quoted text>
what ever filipino APE you are all talk about your thoughts and feelings...
I gave third party articles to support my arguments... you give back a essay on your APE TALK
heeee heeee hoooo hoooo heeeee heeee hooooo hooooo
hehehehehehe

Mr. Inutile,

I thank you for your thoughts.

Even though you filled this forum with your spams and insults, your china is still proud of you.

Time and again have you been humiliated here, still, you are here to fight another day.

And there's no sweet words for us Pinoys but to hear you chinks hurl insults, because by doing so, the obvious becomes real.

You are owned.

Your third party insights are welcome and so are yours. But you chinks are not that smart, so failure to express your views is totally expected.

So long chink!
Don the Chinese

Quezon City, Philippines

#9297 Aug 6, 2012
the Chinese are trying to defy the EEZ by basing China’s ownership by ambiguous historical evidences??? LOL! China tries to dispute her neighbor's EEZ by storytelling that China own it since “prehistoric times” where man can only get fish just a few kilometers away.
RESISTANCE IS FUTILE

Delta, Canada

#9298 Aug 6, 2012
Dong King Kong wrote:
<quoted text>
hehehehehehe
Mr. Inutile,
I thank you for your thoughts.
Even though you filled this forum with your spams and insults, your china is still proud of you.
Time and again have you been humiliated here, still, you are here to fight another day.
And there's no sweet words for us Pinoys but to hear you chinks hurl insults, because by doing so, the obvious becomes real.
You are owned.
Your third party insights are welcome and so are yours. But you chinks are not that smart, so failure to express your views is totally expected.
So long chink!
\

Okay APE

heee heee hoooo hooo
Don the Chinese

Quezon City, Philippines

#9299 Aug 6, 2012
China still testing the waters how far they can reach if they will use coercion and deception. I believe their greed are limitless as their unsatiable desire to conquer anything by power. China must be careful over her actions...a “miscalculation” on their part can knock off dead the red dragon...shot by a small piece of pebble.

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