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Feb 25, 2008

Macedonian leaders hammer out stand in name dispute with Greece

“Everyone stands behind this position. Macedonia will continue to be part of the negotiation process”

SKOPJE, Macedonia -- Top officials met on Sunday to co-ordinate the government's position on the latest proposal by UN envoy in the name dispute Matthew Nimetz. via Balkan Times

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Feb 25, 2008
 
FYROM's tactics make it clear that Greece should not keep compromising their position again and again. Greece changed its position from a name that would not include the word Macedonia to a composite name that includes a geographic term and the word Macedonia for ALL USES. Now, Nimetz proposes two names, one of which will be plain Macedonia. This is NOT a solution! FYROM will keep talking about the "Greater Macedonia" which includes the Greek Macedonia.

Greece should veto the entrance of FYROM to NATO and the EU if they do not accept a name for ALL USES. THERE IS NO OTHER CHOICE!
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Feb 25, 2008
 
American for Justice wrote:
FYROM's tactics make it clear that Greece should not keep compromising their position again and again. Greece changed its position from a name that would not include the word Macedonia to a composite name that includes a geographic term and the word Macedonia for ALL USES. Now, Nimetz proposes two names, one of which will be plain Macedonia. This is NOT a solution! FYROM will keep talking about the "Greater Macedonia" which includes the Greek Macedonia.
Greece should veto the entrance of FYROM to NATO and the EU if they do not accept a name for ALL USES. THERE IS NO OTHER CHOICE!
definately! no other options this is true
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Feb 25, 2008
 
American for Justice wrote:
FYROM's tactics make it clear that Greece should not keep compromising their position again and again. Greece changed its position from a name that would not include the word Macedonia to a composite name that includes a geographic term and the word Macedonia for ALL USES. Now, Nimetz proposes two names, one of which will be plain Macedonia. This is NOT a solution! FYROM will keep talking about the "Greater Macedonia" which includes the Greek Macedonia.
Greece should veto the entrance of FYROM to NATO and the EU if they do not accept a name for ALL USES. THERE IS NO OTHER CHOICE!
If all the people in Greek Macedonia stop saying are Macedonians, start saying they are Greek the problem will be solved. Macedonia will be Macedonia and North Greece will be only north Greece, no North Greek Macedonia but Greece....
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Feb 26, 2008
 
North Greece has Macedonian territory as simple as this...
North Greece has the territories of Ipeiros,Macedonia and Thrace..
And dont claim the stupid propaganda that we change it in 1987...bla bla bla...that regions you can see in a 1958 map...
http://www.maps.com/map.aspx...
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Feb 26, 2008
 
American for Justice wrote:
FYROM's tactics make it clear that Greece should not keep compromising their position again and again. Greece changed its position from a name that would not include the word Macedonia to a composite name that includes a geographic term and the word Macedonia for ALL USES. Now, Nimetz proposes two names, one of which will be plain Macedonia. This is NOT a solution! FYROM will keep talking about the "Greater Macedonia" which includes the Greek Macedonia.
Greece should veto the entrance of FYROM to NATO and the EU if they do not accept a name for ALL USES. THERE IS NO OTHER CHOICE!
Don't you think changeing you flag and Name is a compromiss?? Something Macedonia made the first compromis for peace between Greece and Macedonia??? Is that not enough?? Where is the compromiss Greece made??? Is compromis north Greek to call Macedonia after ages the name has not been used and now sudden Macedonia appeared in Greece after ages nobody used the name in Greece is was a secret. When we were free from Yougoslavia Greece wakened up for the name, Before that was no problem in Yougoslavia to use the name Macedonia. Even Greece didn't used the name when Yougoslavia was a country. Greece was sleeping. When Greece realised Yougoslavia will come to an end she put the name Macedonia in North Greece only like admin. area, not even a Province. Greece has no provinces, even today. We still have the name and it will be like that. If Greece wants more compromiss she can Kiss my Macedonian a.. I am born in Yougoslav Republic of Macedonia and raised in Republic of Macedonia.
By the way Republic is Latin translatation for Greek Democratic.
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Feb 26, 2008
 
marina from makedonia wrote:
<quoted text>If all the people in Greek Macedonia stop saying are Macedonians, start saying they are Greek the problem will be solved. Macedonia will be Macedonia and North Greece will be only north Greece, no North Greek Macedonia but Greece....
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAA
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/mk/5/5d...
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Feb 26, 2008
 
marina from makedonia wrote:
<quoted text>Don't you think changeing you flag and Name is a compromiss?? Something Macedonia made the first compromis for peace between Greece and Macedonia??? Is that not enough?? Where is the compromiss Greece made??? Is compromis north Greek to call Macedonia after ages the name has not been used and now sudden Macedonia appeared in Greece after ages nobody used the name in Greece is was a secret. When we were free from Yougoslavia Greece wakened up for the name, Before that was no problem in Yougoslavia to use the name Macedonia. Even Greece didn't used the name when Yougoslavia was a country. Greece was sleeping. When Greece realised Yougoslavia will come to an end she put the name Macedonia in North Greece only like admin. area, not even a Province. Greece has no provinces, even today. We still have the name and it will be like that. If Greece wants more compromiss she can Kiss my Macedonian a.. I am born in Yougoslav Republic of Macedonia and raised in Republic of Macedonia.
By the way Republic is Latin translatation for Greek Democratic.
when u stop visiting the dutch hashish coffeshops and decide to open up a book, u will find that greece always used the name MACEDONIA for the one and only original MACEDONIA noth region of greece
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Feb 26, 2008
 
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when u stop visiting the dutch hashish coffeshops and decide to open up a book, u will find that greece always used the name MACEDONIA for the one and only original MACEDONIA noth region of greece
You from Athens are the Stoned ones.... In Macedonia we have the Virgin Star of the High Sun, in Athens is the Parthenos made of Stone... You are Stoned people... We are the High people...
High Landers....
Vergina Star SUN...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vergina_Sun
Also the newest flag has the SUN, modern SUN...
Don't lie. Greece haven't used the name officially since Alexander the Great concured the world. You always use in Greece Hellenic, never Macedonian. It was a very good hidden secret in Greece, word Macedonia. All the documents were hidden...Untill you discovered the Vergina Star...
Nationalists on both sides subsequently associated the symbol with the (much later) Star of Bethlehem and have argued that their respective communities have used the symbol for sacred purposes before the Vergina discovery in 1977. Macedonian nationalists on both sides of the Greek border knew about the Sun of Vergina...
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Feb 26, 2008
 
MAKEDONAS wrote:
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when u stop visiting the dutch hashish coffeshops and decide to open up a book, u will find that greece always used the name MACEDONIA for the one and only original MACEDONIA noth region of greece
LIAR,LIAR,LIAR,LIAR,LIAR,LIAR, LIAR,LIAR,LIAR,LIAR

In modern day greece before 1988 there was no region Macedonia, only when it become obvious that the federal republic of Macedina will gain it's independence you've named it and suddenly you've became macedonians

WHY?

There were people living there and you've got something to tell the world about that (changeing them and deporting them)
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Feb 26, 2008
 
Pas mi Ellin barbaros wrote:
North Greece has Macedonian territory as simple as this...
North Greece has the territories of Ipeiros,Macedonia and Thrace..
And dont claim the stupid propaganda that we change it in 1987...bla bla bla...that regions you can see in a 1958 map...
http://www.maps.com/map.aspx...
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
You never talk about this...Book you had before 1980.. before Yougoslavia went apart...
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Feb 26, 2008
 
American for Justice wrote:
FYROM's tactics make it clear that Greece should not keep compromising their position again and again. Greece changed its position from a name that would not include the word Macedonia to a composite name that includes a geographic term and the word Macedonia for ALL USES. Now, Nimetz proposes two names, one of which will be plain Macedonia. This is NOT a solution! FYROM will keep talking about the "Greater Macedonia" which includes the Greek Macedonia.
Greece should veto the entrance of FYROM to NATO and the EU if they do not accept a name for ALL USES. THERE IS NO OTHER CHOICE!
OF COURSE YUNANISTAN SHOULD PLACE A VETO.BRING IT ON!!!

HOWEVER,THERE IS A CHOICE AND THAT IS CALLED THE UN, WHERE MACEDONIA ONLY NEEDS A 2/3 MAJORITY VOTE TO ACHIEVE THE GOAL,IN WHICH MORE THAN 120 NATIONS HAVE RECOGNISED MACEDONIA.
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Feb 26, 2008
 
American for Justice wrote:
FYROM's tactics make it clear that Greece should not keep compromising their position again and again. Greece changed its position from a name that would not include the word Macedonia to a composite name that includes a geographic term and the word Macedonia for ALL USES. Now, Nimetz proposes two names, one of which will be plain Macedonia. This is NOT a solution! FYROM will keep talking about the "Greater Macedonia" which includes the Greek Macedonia.
Greece should veto the entrance of FYROM to NATO and the EU if they do not accept a name for ALL USES. THERE IS NO OTHER CHOICE!
Bring it on, bting it biring it on Now....
Give me your promising word... VETO
You promise me no Paradise..........
Bring it ON NOW>>>>>> >>>>.........!
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Feb 26, 2008
 
American for Justice wrote:
FYROM's tactics make it clear that Greece should not keep compromising their position again and again. Greece changed its position from a name that would not include the word Macedonia to a composite name that includes a geographic term and the word Macedonia for ALL USES. Now, Nimetz proposes two names, one of which will be plain Macedonia. This is NOT a solution! FYROM will keep talking about the "Greater Macedonia" which includes the Greek Macedonia.
Greece should veto the entrance of FYROM to NATO and the EU if they do not accept a name for ALL USES. THERE IS NO OTHER CHOICE!
At first flash of Eden, we race down to the sea.
Standing there on freedoms shore.
Waiting for the sun..
Can you feel it now that spring has come.
And its time to live in the scattered sun.
Waiting for you to - come along
Waiting for you to - hear my song
Waiting for you to - come along
Waiting for you to - tell me what went wrong....
Waitning for the VETO....
Waiting for the SUN...

NATO promise no Paradise....
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Feb 26, 2008
 
So we listen to the doors?
Read about the end is about the ancient Greek myth of Oidipodas..
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Feb 26, 2008
 
Pas mi Ellin barbaros wrote:
So we listen to the doors?
Read about the end is about the ancient Greek myth of Oidipodas..
Offtopic
Like the ancient mythe of Jesus...
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Feb 26, 2008
 
ZLATKO wrote:
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OF COURSE YUNANISTAN SHOULD PLACE A VETO.BRING IT ON!!!
HOWEVER,THERE IS A CHOICE AND THAT IS CALLED THE UN, WHERE MACEDONIA ONLY NEEDS A 2/3 MAJORITY VOTE TO ACHIEVE THE GOAL,IN WHICH MORE THAN 120 NATIONS HAVE RECOGNISED MACEDONIA.
We'll just shut the borders again...so you best think twice and actonce as it serves your national interests better when things are thought out clearly - with logic.
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Feb 26, 2008
 
Makedon wrote:
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LIAR,LIAR,LIAR,LIAR,LIAR,LIAR, LIAR,LIAR,LIAR,LIAR
In modern day greece before 1988 there was no region Macedonia, only when it become obvious that the federal republic of Macedina will gain it's independence you've named it and suddenly you've became macedonians
WHY?
There were people living there and you've got something to tell the world about that (changeing them and deporting them)
You fool - stop repeating stupidities - that region has always been known as Makedonia.
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Feb 26, 2008
 
marina from makedonia wrote:
<quoted text>You from Athens are the Stoned ones.... In Macedonia we have the Virgin Star of the High Sun, in Athens is the Parthenos made of Stone... You are Stoned people... We are the High people...
High Landers....
Vergina Star SUN...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vergina_Sun
Also the newest flag has the SUN, modern SUN...
Don't lie. Greece haven't used the name officially since Alexander the Great concured the world. You always use in Greece Hellenic, never Macedonian. It was a very good hidden secret in Greece, word Macedonia. All the documents were hidden...Untill you discovered the Vergina Star...
Nationalists on both sides subsequently associated the symbol with the (much later) Star of Bethlehem and have argued that their respective communities have used the symbol for sacred purposes before the Vergina discovery in 1977. Macedonian nationalists on both sides of the Greek border knew about the Sun of Vergina...
God you are one dumb person.
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Feb 26, 2008
 
Marinaki....
Don't u have another example except from Demosthenis? He was the only politician in Greece with this kind of hate for Macedonian, as many politicians do when they want to fanaticize their people. As your politicians do. Is this the only evidence you have? You are joke. Numerous Athenians politicians hated Spartans. What that supposed to mean? Be educated....(Spit out the hate they have insinuate u for us but consider who is ur real enemy in the balkans. Why all this hate?maybe because you need to form a national conscience...
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Feb 26, 2008
 
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