No Muslim can think of profaning holy Prophet (PBUH): Altaf

Nazir wrote:

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i think it is time for u too loosen ur kesh

i really hope the "beloved prophet" (SMAG ,SAWS, BLOWS, YAWS, YECH, PBUH) taught you how to LOOSEN your salwar before you pee islamic style, and then wash ur chamferred lil pee pee and elbows

YAZ - been here b4 wrote:

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Mahamurakh it's short for my own name

awesome

so you full name is "mahamurakh muhammed Yazid"

i thought only us sardars could laugh at ourselves in this whole world

you are the first mussalla who infact calls himself a "mahamurakh"

Grinning Bear wrote:

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That is EXACTLY it!!!
I can cook very well and lots of people ask me to cook meat for them.
But,i feel awfully guilty about eating meat!!

please stop consuming it and preparing it ASAP

regards

islam the real evil wrote:

crude oil will dry up from arabia and then these arabs and islam will all be evaporated.
thats going to be happen in next 50 yrs.

When there was no Oil in Arabia, Islam and Muslims did not exist in the world!!

You do not even know that more than 80 % Muslims in the world are non Arabs and have nothing to do with oil, but how could a hate filled person is supposed to know these things.

Such people live in their imaginary world, full of hate and hatred and bigotry.

Number of Muslims in India alone are more than the entire population of All Gulf Countries!!

harminder wrote:

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ok got you
what about maulana azads frevent following of the murderous SHAH WALIULLAH AND AHMED SIRHINDI (another murderous sufi siant)

To my knowledge Shah Waliullah never took part in any battle, not dis Ahmad Sirhindi.

They are well known for their Islamic Knowledge and their books and sermons and writings.

From where you got the objective "Murderous"

Lecture 6 The Practical Aspects of His Life and its Practicality Part-39

Prophet and Charity:

He ordered the Muslims to pay Zakat and spend on the needy. But he was the first to set an example. You have already heard his first wife Khadija ’s evidence who had said “O Messenger of Allah! You help people who are unable to pay their debts. You help the poor and spend money on people in distress.” He did not ask his followers to give up everything they owned.

Nor did he shut the doors of the Kingdom of Heaven for the wealthy. He simply asked them to spend a portion of their wealth for charitable purposes for the sake of Allah:“…and spend out of what We have provided them.”(Chap 2: Vrs 3)

The holy Prophet’s own example was that he spent on others everything he owned. There was no shortage of money because spoils of war were coming into Madinah from everywhere, but that money was meant for others. The Prophet (Peace be upon him) would spend a bare minimum on himself and his family. For them it remained the same old life of austerity.

His Household living:

After the victory at Khyber (in 7 AH), it became usual for him to fix a yearly allowance for his wives, but it never lasted a whole year because they too, would share most of it with the poor and
the needy. Ibn Abbas (May Allah be pleased with him) says that the holy Prophet was the most generous of men and his generosity knew no bounds, particularly in the holy month of Ramadan, He never refused anyone who came to him asking for help.

He did not like eating anything by himself, no matter how little he had; he would share it with others. It was his instruction to everyone “If any Muslim dies leaving an unsettled debt, let me know so that I should pay on his behalf And if he leaves anything behind, his relatives will inherit that” Once a rustic asked him roughly,“O Muhammad!(These provisions) do not belong to you, or to your father. Load them on to my camel” The holy Prophet (Peace be upon him) did not mind his rudeness and ordered that he be given a camel-load of barley and dates.

He used to say “l am but a distributor and a custodian. The real sustainer is Allah.” Abu Dhar (May Allah be pleased with him) says, one night, while he was having a walk with the holy Prophet, he said “Abu Dhar! If this mountain of Uhad turned into gold for me, I would not like that three nights should pass and I still had a Dinar left with me, except that I should keep some to
pay a debt.”

(Contd.)

Yep...Islam need to be packed off from this subcontinent....! Now Muslims need to migrate .....or re-convert is their choice !

Dhrama has got nothing to do with manmade religions ! Like tiger’s dharma is to kill and eat other animals ....try revert it u will have problem!

More practical example- Sonia's dharma is dharma is cabaret dancing, strip teasing and randigiri…….now India made her a political leader against her dharma, so India is fkckd for last few years !
Then Mohammad’s dharma was chodampatti and lootmaar, now Muslims made him a saint & prophet combo against his dharma- so Muslims are fkckd all around the world !

I think we can have a interesting debate on it, for a change!

yaseen mohammed wrote:

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Mr Kaji you & I are not suppose to be in any rational debates however you yourself have only one solution that decimate Muslims or pack them off to Arabian Penunsila and problem solved. Stop dreaming about Ashoka the great he won't come back and niether his type will be born again in this part of the world.
hmmm MAKE DHARMA THE CORE OF SURVIVAL IN UNITY??? Which Dharm will it be. Will it be Islam, Sikhism, Buddhism (Ashoka's faith), Christianity or Hinduism and which branch of any of those religions will have super status?? Wahabism of Islam, Brahminism of Hinduism, Catholic Christians or the monas of Sikhism ETC. You may turn around and say they will all be equal which sounds good but practically speaking it's non exitent in our part of the world even in India although the Constitution is equal for all citizens.

MUQ wrote:

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To my knowledge Shah Waliullah never took part in any battle, not dis Ahmad Sirhindi.
They are well known for their Islamic Knowledge and their books and sermons and writings.
From where you got the objective "Murderous"

it was the murderous shah waliullah who wrote to ahmed shah abdalli of afghanistan to help muslims of hindustan to CRUSH the kafurs of sikhs, jats and marathas who had destroyed the shariat rule in hindustan

it was ahmed sirhindi who wrote to sheikh Bukhari Murtaza Khan that

"Recently a very good thing - the execution of the accursed infidel of Goindwal- has taken place, which had been a cause of great frustration to the wretched Hindus and indeed he was the chief of heathens and the leader of the infidels. The movement had many powerful adherents at the Mughal Court."(2

This was after the brutal execution of Guru Arjan Devji by Muslim Mughal Emperor jehangir

ahmed sirhindi was the one who wrote to mughal emperor akbar to bring back jaziya tax on non muslims in india at that time

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"With his strong contempt against Shia and the Hindus, Sirhind wrote several letters to the nobles in the court of Jehangir for guiding the emperor on the path of Shariat, and for removal of Qafirs (Shias and Hindus) from the administration. He was dead against any honourable status of Hindus in Islamic government. SIRHINDI WANTED THE RELIGIOUS FREEDOM ENJOYED BY THE HINDUS DURING AKBAR REGIME TO BE CURBED. Enraged with his too much interference in administration, Jehangir imprisoned him in Gwalier (A History of Sufism in India by Saiyid Athar Abbas Rizvi, Vol. II, 1972, Page 178) but released him after one year. Sirhind not only "injected communal virus into the body politic of the country but also generated hatred, mutual distrust and discord among the various sections of Muslims"(Ibid. page XII). Despite this anti-Hindu tirade of Sirhindi, MAULANA ABUL KALAM AZAD IN 1919 EULOGIGED THE ROLE OF MUJADDID (SIRHIND),"WHO DID NOT SEE EYE TO EYE WITH THE POLICY OF STATE" (Ibid. Page215). "

how CAN such a hate filled muslim be a "sufi saint"

Another Quote from Ahmed Sirhindi (who muslims calls SUFI SAINT)

(translated from urdu)

"Sharia prospers under the “shadow of the sword”(al-Shara’ tahat al-sait). And the glory of the holy Sharia depends on the kings of Islam.”

" Islam and infidelity (kufr) contradict one another. To establish the one means eradicating the other, the coming together of these contradictories being impossible. THEREFORE, ALLAH HAS COMMANDED HIS PROPHET TO WAGE WAR (JIHAD) AGAINST THE INFIDELS, AND BE HARSH WITH THEM. THE GLORY IS ISLAM CONSISTS IN THE HUMILIATION AND DEGRADATION OF INFIDELS AND INFIDELITY. He, who honours the infidels, insults Islam. Honouring (the infidels) does not mean that they are accorded dignity, and made to sit in high places. It means allowing them to be in our company, to sit with them, and talk to them. THEY SHOULD BE KEPT AWAY LIKE DOGS. If there is some worldly purpose or work which depends upon them, and cannot be served without their help, they may be contacted while keeping in mind all the time that they are not worthy of respect. The best course according to Islam is that they should not be contacted even for worldly purposes. Allah has proclaimed in his Holy Word (Quran) that they are his and his Prophet’s enemies. And mixing with these enemies of Allah and his Prophet or showing affection for them, is one of the greatest crimes.”

thats why ahmed sirhindi was a muslim mass murderer…this is ISLAM. The most racist most bigoted most hate filled murder filled cult

MUQ wrote:

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To my knowledge Shah Waliullah never took part in any battle, not dis Ahmad Sirhindi.
They are well known for their Islamic Knowledge and their books and sermons and writings.
From where you got the objective "Murderous"

read the "ISLAMIC KNOWLEDGE AND THEIR SERMONS" ahmed sirhindi wrote about:)

“Before that kafir (Guru Arjun Dev) was executed, this recluse (meaning himself) had seen in a dream that the reigning king had smashed the skull of idolatry. Indeed, he was a great idolater, and the leader of the idolaters, and the chief of unbelievers. MAY ALLAH BLAST HIM! The Holy Prophet who is the ruler of religion as well as the world, has cursed the idolaters as follows in some of his prayers –“O ALLAH, DEMEAN THEIR SOCIETY, CREATE DIVISIONS IN THEIR RANKS, DESTROY THEIR HOMES, AND GET AT THEM LIKE THE MIGHTY ONE.”

“IT IS REQUIRED BY RELIGION (ISLAM) THAT JIHAD SHOULD BE WAGED AGAINST THE UNBELIEVERS, AND THAT THEY SHOULD BE DEALT WITH HARSHLY. It is obligatory on Muslims to acquaint the king of Islam with the evil customs of false religions. Maybe the king has no knowledge of these evil customs. Some Ulama of Islam should come forward, and proclaim the evils present in their (unbelievers’) ways… It will be no excuse or, the Day of Judgment that they did not proclaim the tenets of the Sharia because they were not called upon (to do so).”
“THEREFORE, IT IS NECESSARY THAT INFIDELITY SHOULD BE CURSED IN ORDER TO SERVE THE FAITH (ISLAM). CURSING UNBELIEF IN THE HEART IS THE LESSER WAY. THE GREATER WAY IS TO CURSE IT IN THE HEART AS WELL AS WITH THE BODY. IN SHORT, CURSING MEANS TO NOURISH ENMITY TOWARDS ENEMIES OF THE TRUE FAITH, WHETHER THAT ENMITY IS HARBOURED IN THE HEART WHEN THERE IS FEAR OF INJURY FROM THEM (INFIDELS), OR IT IS HARBOURED IN THE HEART AS WELL AS SERVED WITH THE BODY WHEN THERE IS NO FEAR OF INJURY FROM THEM. In the opinion of this recluse, there is no greater way to obtain the blessings of Allah than to curse the enemies of the faith (be impatient with them). For Allah himself harbours enmity towards the infidels and infidelity…”
“Once I went to visit a sick man who was close to death. When I meditated on him, I saw that his heart was layered with darkness. I intended to remove those darkness. But he was not yet ready for it… When I meditated more deeply, I discovered that that darkness had gathered due to his friendship with the infidels. They could not be dispersed easily. He had to suffer torments of hell before he could get purged of them.”

“The abolition of jizyah in Hindustan is a result of friendship, which (Hindus) have acquired with the rulers of this land… What right had the rulers to stop exacting jizyah? Allah himself has commended imposition of jizyah for their (infidels) humiliation and degradation. What is required is their disgrace, and the prestige and power of Muslims. THE SLAUGHTER OF NON-MUSLIMS MEANS GAIN FOR ISLAM. To consult them (the kafirs) and then act according to their advice means honouring the enemies (of Islam), which is strictly forbidden.”

so as a "true muslim" do you STILL believe that ahmed sirhindi was a PIOUS muslim sufi saint who wrote about "ISLAM"

COME ON SAY YES

Jihad In India met the most ferocious and determined resistance from the Sikh Faith. The sikhs did not have a kingdon nor did they have a trained army .

THE SIKHS AND THE ISLAMIC INVADERS FOUGHT FOR NEARLY 300 YEARS AND AT THE END OF THE PERIOD THE SIKHS HAD PREVAILED.

Ahmed Shah Abdali made the last of his eleven invasions into India around 1763 and returned disheartened never to return to India again. Effectively, a long period of muslim domination of India had come to an end.

from that date on dharma prevailed in india

Bole So Nihal Sat Sri Akaal

The next war is slated for 2030 as per prediction of Guru Arjan DevJee…where these malechaas will bu slaughtered by the 100 million

Guru ArjanDevJee had given muslims 500 years to change for the good.So far muslims have not changed a wee bit

Prologue:

"Sufi" Saint (some joke ) Ahmad Sirhindi (1564-1624), wrote several letters to the courtiers of Akbar and Jehangir protesting their “liberal policies towards Hindus”

HERE IS AN EXCERPT FROM LETTER NO. 163:“…The honour of Islam lies in insulting kufr and kafirs. One who respects the kafirs dishonours the Muslims… The real purpose of levying jiziya (editor’s note: religious head tax) on them is to humiliate them to such an extent that they may not be able to dress well and to live in grandeur. They should constantly remain terrified and trembling. It is intended to hold them under contempt and to uphold the honour and might of Islam…”

I just wanted to clarify that when there was no oil in Arabia , Muslims did exist in Arabia , only difference is that they were called monkeys without tail!

Then 80 percent of Muslims are non-arabs....but as they are soooooob backward, uneducated, poor, nanga, bhuka, chutiya....that world comunity don't consider them human....may be they will agree that lot of tail-less monkies are Muslim rather than other way round !
So saar you are confused and think that 100 % Muslims are Arbs etc. This is is very common in Muslim world also...don't you see Paki-Punjabis have named their missile Babur ?

MUQ wrote:

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When there was no Oil in Arabia, Islam and Muslims did not exist in the world!!
You do not even know that more than 80 % Muslims in the world are non Arabs and have nothing to do with oil, but how could a hate filled person is supposed to know these things.
Such people live in their imaginary world, full of hate and hatred and bigotry.
Number of Muslims in India alone are more than the entire population of All Gulf Countries!!

Dak-original wrote:

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However, India does need to be even more secular to progress further.

And who will decide the level of secularism up to which India should reach ? Can you tell us which type of secularism was followed by Indians in " Hindu India " when they used to control 35% economy of the world , capital punishment was terminated and there was no need of locks ?

Actually , any one tries to teach of lesson of secularism , i become unable to understand that what should be said to that ' intellectual ' while whole history tell us clearly that Hindutwa and Hindu polity are the synonym of SECULARISM . Can any one tell me that at which time followers of other faiths were oppressed by HINDU DOMINATED ADMINISTRATION ? Serious social separation on the basis of religion was started with arrival of Islam in India . So religious riots and it's responsibility was and is of Muhammadans not of MODI or Togadiya .

Sir, I fully agree with you. Please forgive us for our chutiyapanthi in past ! We have done lots of cruelty in this world and time and again we have paid pack with huge interest !

As a matter of fact I feel that har Muslamano ki kismat Allah Mia special care kE saath gadhey kE lund sE likhta haey ! Koi b'hn chod asman mein phoot raha haey to koi meri tara forum mein maa chuda raha haey !

Booooooohoooooo ! Please don't scrw us more !Pleaaaaassssssseeeeeee !

harminder wrote:

Prologue:
"Sufi" Saint (some joke ) Ahmad Sirhindi (1564-1624), wrote several letters to the courtiers of Akbar and Jehangir protesting their “liberal policies towards Hindus”
HERE IS AN EXCERPT FROM LETTER NO. 163:“…The honour of Islam lies in insulting kufr and kafirs. One who respects the kafirs dishonours the Muslims… The real purpose of levying jiziya (editor’s note: religious head tax) on them is to humiliate them to such an extent that they may not be able to dress well and to live in grandeur. They should constantly remain terrified and trembling. It is intended to hold them under contempt and to uphold the honour and might of Islam…”

Harminder ever considered a psychiatrist ?

My dear Hindoo brathers,
I beg you apology for all the gaand masti Muslims have done with you in past. You have to understand that we never had a leader like Budhdha , Krishna.....we had Mofo Mo ! And Mofo Mo's only preaching was -fkck ur mother ! And so we do!

Trust you will understand and grant apology and stop chasing us like kutta in street and phordo our nhund at the drop of hat !

Rgrds,
MUQ (Asli)

Grinning Bear wrote:

That guilt at back of mind stops me from eating meat in quantity!
That is called "conditioning" and since there are lots of vegetarians around me it gets "reinforced" and that causes a tussle in me and I get "neurosis" and to get rid of that ....I ping people here!!!:):):):

you should stop consuming eggs as its foeticide you doing,killing unborn kids for your apetite and protein

Grinning Bear wrote:

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I have an ex girlfriend living in UK.
Maybe I will turn up and get reaquainted with her!
Take her to one of the restaurants..:):):):)

How would an ugly tamil chamar schedule cast having a wife had an gf?

Nazir wrote:

Harminder ever considered a psychiatrist ?

Any Psychiatrist trying to cure a guy like Harminder, would himself become a Psychiatric case!!

Can any one cure such hateful and hatemonger persons.

The only cure for such persons is that they should die of their own hatred and / or die a slow painful death, seeing with their own eyes, growth of Islam in their own country and the world in general.

Already they are dieing a thousand death each day, the numbers of new converts to islam each day.

This is befitting cure for these hate mongers.

harminder wrote:

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please stop consuming it and preparing it ASAP
regards

Must!:):):)