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Mar 26, 2008

UN mediator offers last proposal in name dispute before NATO summit

“Both governments have a very strong desire to resolve this issue”

A meeting of EU foreign ministers in Slovenia later this week could prove the last chance for Macedonia and Greece to end their name dispute before the start of the NATO summit in Bucharest next week. via SETimes news

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Mar 26, 2008
 
While expressing their readiness for a compromise, Macedonian officials have made it clear that they would not seek a solution at any cost.

Prime Minister Nikola Gruevski voiced scepticism about the prospects of a deal being reached within the next few days.

He also warned that a Greek veto would "trigger strong frustrations amongst the Macedonian citizens" and send the negotiations into such a "profound crisis" that his country could decide to pull out of the process.

The last opportunity the two countries have for resolving their dispute before the NATO summit will be the EU foreign ministers' two-day informal meeting, opening in Brdo, Slovenia, on Friday.

Citing an unnamed NATO diplomat, Reuters reported on Wednesday that a fallback option has been discussed. It would give Skopje a conditional invitation to join the Pact, but delay ratification until a settlement is reached.
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Mar 26, 2008
 
Latest proposal from Nimetz
- Republic of Macedonia (for Home use)
- Republic of Macedonia Skopje (in English) for international use.
- Macedonia as a name can not be used by any country.
- both countries can use the term 'Macedonian', no country has exclusive right over the term.
In Nimetz's letter, continues to say:
- both countries must be good neighbors
- Greece must support Macedonia in its EU, NATO integration
- examine the decisions of renaming Airports

Fvck you Scops Nimetz has woken up to your lies, the game is over.

Greek Veto, Scopja pull out and Albanian tack over, they will give some land to Greece and Bulgaria for good neighbourly relations and we will support thier NATO and EU aspirations.
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Mar 26, 2008
 
Kastor wrote:
Latest proposal from Nimetz
- Republic of Macedonia (for Home use)
- Republic of Macedonia Skopje (in English) for international use.
- Macedonia as a name can not be used by any country.
- both countries can use the term 'Macedonian', no country has exclusive right over the term.
In Nimetz's letter, continues to say:
- both countries must be good neighbors
- Greece must support Macedonia in its EU, NATO integration
- examine the decisions of renaming Airports
Fvck you Scops Nimetz has woken up to your lies, the game is over.
Greek Veto, Scopja pull out and Albanian tack over, they will give some land to Greece and Bulgaria for good neighbourly relations and we will support thier NATO and EU aspirations.
Dream on!
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All done, no more negotiations. No Macedonian will accept this unjustice done by the International community. No more negotiation and no more bulshit. We pull out, f*ck NATO, f*ck the Orthodox Turks in Greece, we have existed for 1000's of years and will remain Macedonians and Repiblic of Macedonia is the only name for us. We dont need NATO, let anyone try and take one step in our country and you will see another Palestine on the Balkans!!!
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Mar 26, 2008
 
In Skopja must read and study the world history. Must know about Alexander the Great and his nation. His language was ancient Greek, he was born and rase in Greece and he was the leader of Greeks against the Persians. You are not Macedonians, the half of you are Albanians and the other half Slavs . Macedonians are Greeks. They speak Greek. Do you know the capital of Macedonia? Where is it? Learn and answer!
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Kastor wrote:
Latest proposal from Nimetz
- Republic of Macedonia (for Home use)
- Republic of Macedonia Skopje (in English) for international use.
- Macedonia as a name can not be used by any country.
- both countries can use the term 'Macedonian', no country has exclusive right over the term.
In Nimetz's letter, continues to say:
- both countries must be good neighbors
- Greece must support Macedonia in its EU, NATO integration
- examine the decisions of renaming Airports
Fvck you Scops Nimetz has woken up to your lies, the game is over.
Greek Veto, Scopja pull out and Albanian tack over, they will give some land to Greece and Bulgaria for good neighbourly relations and we will support thier NATO and EU aspirations.
When you going to understands that YOUR COUNTRY''s so called "GREECE" has NO influence what so ever on a World scale???

They ALL know your sick usurpation attitude and THEY ARE TIRED OF IT!

btw. Knowing your attitude....don't forget that EVERY STEP of yours is watched by MANY. So please, don't embarrass yourselves even more as it now.
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Mar 26, 2008
 
BOREC wrote:
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When you going to understands that YOUR COUNTRY''s so called "GREECE" has NO influence what so ever on a World scale???
They ALL know your sick usurpation attitude and THEY ARE TIRED OF IT!
btw. Knowing your attitude....don't forget that EVERY STEP of yours is watched by MANY. So please, don't embarrass yourselves even more as it now.
BORAT YOU CLOWN, IN YOUR EYES FYROM IS THE MOST INFLUENTUAL COUNTRY ON THE PLANET....LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING....NOONE CARES ABOUT YOUR SHITHOLE OF A COUNTRY, FYROM IS TOTALLY INSIGNIFICANT TO THE WORLD (INCLUDING HISTORY)...THE ONLY QUALITY FYROM HAS IS DISTORTING AND FALSIFYING HISTORY (ESPECIALLY THE HELLENIC LEGACY OF MACEDONIA AND SOME BULGARIAN HISTORY).
WAKE UP TITOIST ZOMBIE CLOWNS!!!
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Mar 26, 2008
 
PAVLOS MELAS wrote:
<quoted text>BORAT YOU CLOWN, IN YOUR EYES FYROM IS THE MOST INFLUENTUAL COUNTRY ON THE PLANET....LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING....NOONE CARES ABOUT YOUR SHITHOLE OF A COUNTRY, FYROM IS TOTALLY INSIGNIFICANT TO THE WORLD (INCLUDING HISTORY)...THE ONLY QUALITY FYROM HAS IS DISTORTING AND FALSIFYING HISTORY (ESPECIALLY THE HELLENIC LEGACY OF MACEDONIA AND SOME BULGARIAN HISTORY).
WAKE UP TITOIST ZOMBIE CLOWNS!!!
No insult from YOUR side will be taken from me as a provocation for a "hot date", as someone mention here.

Your insults are REPORTED!

btw. Try to use more of your sophisticated side, you claim on.
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Mar 26, 2008
 
BOREC wrote:
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When you going to understands that YOUR COUNTRY''s so called "GREECE" has NO influence what so ever on a World scale???
They ALL know your sick usurpation attitude and THEY ARE TIRED OF IT!
btw. Knowing your attitude....don't forget that EVERY STEP of yours is watched by MANY. So please, don't embarrass yourselves even more as it now.
You are a tue brainwashed Malaka arnt you if Greece is such small influence on the world and Greece is FYROM's biggest financier what does that make FYROM, everytime you throw these insults at Greece they are X 10 at FYROM you stupid Gypsie clown, wake up you are loose change in Greeces wallet!
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PAVLOS MELAS wrote:
<quoted text>BORAT YOU CLOWN, IN YOUR EYES FYROM IS THE MOST INFLUENTUAL COUNTRY ON THE PLANET....LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING....NOONE CARES ABOUT YOUR SHITHOLE OF A COUNTRY, FYROM IS TOTALLY INSIGNIFICANT TO THE WORLD (INCLUDING HISTORY)...THE ONLY QUALITY FYROM HAS IS DISTORTING AND FALSIFYING HISTORY (ESPECIALLY THE HELLENIC LEGACY OF MACEDONIA AND SOME BULGARIAN HISTORY).
WAKE UP TITOIST ZOMBIE CLOWNS!!!
TWO THIRDS MAJORITY WITHIN THE UN WILL SOLVE YOUR NAME ISSUE.THE REPUBLIC OF MACEDONIA DOESN'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH IT'S CONSTITUTIONAL NAME,NEITHER DOES THE NORTH AMERICAN CONTINENT,CHINA,RUSSIA ETC ETC.

HOWEVER YUNANISTAN HAS AN ISSUE,AND HAS A TRIPLE FORMULA FOR THEIR NAME-THEY ARE CALLED GREECE BY THE WEST,YUNANISTAN BY THE EAST AND HELLASSES INTERNALY. IF THAT'S NOT ENOUGH THEY ALSO WANT TO BE KNOWN AS "MACEDONIANS" ...WTF!!!
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Mar 26, 2008
 
Have a look at yourself in the mirror my friend, do you see anything Aincent Macedonian in you? You cusins are from Africa and Egypt and you infested the Agean Part of Macedonia from Anatolia after 1912. You should read History and dont be ashamed to admit that you are a Orthodox Turk. You will never be Macedonian as we Macedonins lived on that land for much longer than you did. Talking about history, according to your historians the Macedonians were barbarinas and spoke totaly different language to Aincent Greeks.
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Entry of Macdonia as FYROM into nato with no
pre-conditions...

The Greek-Macedonia-UN Name game can continue,
Greece can't veto fyrom for nato or eu and both
organizations can spell that out to Greece....
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Mar 26, 2008
 
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TWO THIRDS MAJORITY WITHIN THE UN WILL SOLVE YOUR NAME ISSUE.THE REPUBLIC OF MACEDONIA DOESN'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH IT'S CONSTITUTIONAL NAME,NEITHER DOES THE NORTH AMERICAN CONTINENT,CHINA,RUSSIA ETC ETC.
HOWEVER YUNANISTAN HAS AN ISSUE,AND HAS A TRIPLE FORMULA FOR THEIR NAME-THEY ARE CALLED GREECE BY THE WEST,YUNANISTAN BY THE EAST AND HELLASSES INTERNALY. IF THAT'S NOT ENOUGH THEY ALSO WANT TO BE KNOWN AS "MACEDONIANS" ...WTF!!!
FIRST OF ALL, YOUR OFFICIAL NAME UNDER THE U.N. RESOLUTION IS FYROM...... SECONDLY, THE COUNTRIES YOU CLAIM HAVE RECOGNISED YOU AS "ROM" IS ONLY ON BILATERAL ISSUES, NOT ON AN INTERNATIONAL LEVEL.....THIRDLY, MACEDONIA'S HELLENIC HISTORY (AND LEGACY) IS MORE THAN 3,000 YEARS OLD!
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ZLATKO wrote:
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TWO THIRDS MAJORITY WITHIN THE UN WILL SOLVE YOUR NAME ISSUE.THE REPUBLIC OF MACEDONIA DOESN'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH IT'S CONSTITUTIONAL NAME,NEITHER DOES THE NORTH AMERICAN CONTINENT,CHINA,RUSSIA ETC ETC.
HOWEVER YUNANISTAN HAS AN ISSUE,AND HAS A TRIPLE FORMULA FOR THEIR NAME-THEY ARE CALLED GREECE BY THE WEST,YUNANISTAN BY THE EAST AND HELLASSES INTERNALY. IF THAT'S NOT ENOUGH THEY ALSO WANT TO BE KNOWN AS "MACEDONIANS" ...WTF!!!
GREEDY....VERY GREEDY by the Greeks....

Just adding to their fashistic "collection of people".
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Mar 26, 2008
 
PAVLO MYASS wrote:
Have a look at yourself in the mirror my friend, do you see anything Aincent Macedonian in you? You cusins are from Africa and Egypt and you infested the Agean Part of Macedonia from Anatolia after 1912. You should read History and dont be ashamed to admit that you are a Orthodox Turk. You will never be Macedonian as we Macedonins lived on that land for much longer than you did. Talking about history, according to your historians the Macedonians were barbarinas and spoke totaly different language to Aincent Greeks.
IS THAT WHAT YOUR BABA AND DEDO TOLD YOU???
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PAVLO MYASS wrote:
Have a look at yourself in the mirror my friend, do you see anything Aincent Macedonian in you? You cusins are from Africa and Egypt and you infested the Agean Part of Macedonia from Anatolia after 1912. You should read History and dont be ashamed to admit that you are a Orthodox Turk. You will never be Macedonian as we Macedonins lived on that land for much longer than you did. Talking about history, according to your historians the Macedonians were barbarinas and spoke totaly different language to Aincent Greeks.
I can't see ANY Macedonians IN "YOUR" LAND - CAN YOU????

THEY ARE ALL GREEKS, is in it???
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Mar 26, 2008
 
Kastor wrote:
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You are a tue brainwashed Malaka arnt you if Greece is such small influence on the world and Greece is FYROM's biggest financier what does that make FYROM, everytime you throw these insults at Greece they are X 10 at FYROM you stupid Gypsie clown, wake up you are loose change in Greeces wallet!
When you are so capable in your finances - you have MORE chances for your propaganda, is in it???

So how come that "We Macedonians are bigger propagandist" then Greece???
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Mar 26, 2008
 
Nimetz the monkey of the UN..........

Fyrom in Un,Fyrom in nato,Fyrom in eu,what's
the problem and those who recognize Macedonia
can use Macedonia.......Nimetz climb back up the
tree and stay there..........
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Mar 26, 2008
 
Well, Macedonia could publicly and bindingly renounce any territorial claims over any territory under Greek rule, and that should be enough to satisfy Greek concerns. Besides if they're both in NATO and EU, that would preclude any conflict
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I can't see ANY Macedonians IN "YOUR" LAND - CAN YOU????
THEY ARE ALL GREEKS, is in it???
BORAT YOU CLOWN, THAT WASN'T MY POST...IT WAS ONE OF YOUR FELLOW FYROMIANS!
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