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Vinni
Prague, Czech Republic
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BsBuster wrote: Oh sure. We want to sue 'rich 'Russia where 90% of the villages have no running water or sewer system and where the average Russian makes less than 5000 dollars a year.I don't think the money is collectible. It is all in the hands of the Oligarchs. Russia can barely sustain itself and with its incomprehensible attitude to Ukraine,Russia is loosing friends fast.Russia runs on exploiting its population of 140 million of which 110 million live in impoverished rural poverty and the only solace is vodka and intervenous drug use and as a result there is rampant Hiv and Aids.Ukraine is making a run for the west ,for good reason .As usual ,the enlightened Ukrainians are about 50 years ahead of the traditionally backward Russians.The Russians have just shot themselves in the foot and have reminded all of Europe of Russia's backwardness and crudeness(as if Europe needed to be reminded ),after 70 years of communism and incivility as Poland ,Czechoslovakia,the Baltic states ,East Germany and all the countries that suffered behind the iron curtain very well know .Russia's arrogance has no bounds. LOL with getting into the European economic structures. BsBuster, don't you think what you said is an exaggeration? and do you really think life in Ukraine differs much from life in Russia?
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Krishnamurty
Etobicoke, Canada
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Canuck
Kamsack, Canada
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Stefan wrote: <quoted text> My kind of people are about 2.5 million strong in North America. We speak from direct cultural experience and have retained real knowledge of history, not just what some commissar wrote down. Your kind are in the few thousands (at most) in North America, and you are confused bunch, scattered here and there with no real community support. You are loners who are disillusioned by your lack of cultural identity. Genetically Ukrainians and Russians have similar blood lines. Really, I feel pity, more than anything else, for my eastern Russian cousins. Wow... 2.5 million clowns in North America. Well I believe there about 1 million of those who reside in Canada. You mostly speak from some anti-Russian Nazi ideologies and not from any direct experience The Canadian Government, at one time, justifiably classified Ukrainian immigrants as "aliens of enemy nationality", and interned them in govermnent camps and worksites. Later they were paroled into jobs for private companies but monitored by the authorities. Perhaps you and your kind can go back to your beloved Ukraine to continue your anti-Russian agenda. We Canadians are tired of listening to all your Russophobe garbage.
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Canuck
Kamsack, Canada
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BsBuster wrote: Oh sure. We want to sue 'rich 'Russia where 90% of the villages have no running water or sewer system and where the average Russian makes less than 5000 dollars a year.I don't think the money is collectible. It is all in the hands of the Oligarchs. Russia can barely sustain itself and with its incomprehensible attitude to Ukraine,Russia is loosing friends fast.Russia runs on exploiting its population of 140 million of which 110 million live in impoverished rural poverty and the only solace is vodka and intervenous drug use and as a result there is rampant Hiv and Aids.Ukraine is making a run for the west ,for good reason .As usual ,the enlightened Ukrainians are about 50 years ahead of the traditionally backward Russians.The Russians have just shot themselves in the foot and have reminded all of Europe of Russia's backwardness and crudeness(as if Europe needed to be reminded ),after 70 years of communism and incivility as Poland ,Czechoslovakia,the Baltic states ,East Germany and all the countries that suffered behind the iron curtain very well know .Russia's arrogance has no bounds. LOL with getting into the European economic structures. Ukraine 50 years ahead of Russia?? LOL The 2006 report by the U.S. Bureau of Democracy, Human Rights and Labor, blames Ukraine’s police and penal system for “some of the most serious human-rights concerns.” The report also notes widespread corruption in the government and military, racism and anti-Semitism in society, and violence against women and children in the home as problem areas. HIV is spreading in the Ukraine at an alarming rate. Released on March 6, the above mentioned report accuses Ukraine of violating international laws meant to protect the rights of migrants and refugees by sending them back to their home countries, where they face persecution. This is just the tip of the iceburg. Ukraine runs for the West? It can run, but will the West accept this depraved nation called Ukraine? I doubt it.
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Stefan
Saskatoon, Canada
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Canuck wrote: <quoted text> Wow... 2.5 million clowns in North America. Well I believe there about 1 million of those who reside in Canada. You mostly speak from some anti-Russian Nazi ideologies and not from any direct experience The Canadian Government, at one time, justifiably classified Ukrainian immigrants as "aliens of enemy nationality", and interned them in govermnent camps and worksites. Later they were paroled into jobs for private companies but monitored by the authorities. Perhaps you and your kind can go back to your beloved Ukraine to continue your anti-Russian agenda. We Canadians are tired of listening to all your Russophobe garbage. You are not a Canadian. Your views are not Canadian. Don't try and bring a Canadian perspective into your thoughts. Did you see the CBC documentary just played last Sunday on Putin's Russia. Corruption, dictatorship, ect. You must be so proud. At best, you are a relocated Communist that has found refuge in Canada and is hiding in Regina. Come on, tell us all about yourself. We all want to know what makes this refuge tick?
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BsBuster
Calgary, Canada
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Vinni wrote: <quoted text> BsBuster, don't you think what you said is an exaggeration? and do you really think life in Ukraine differs much from life in Russia? Life is pretty much the same in Ukraine as in Russia economically ,but Ukraine is trying desperately to integrate with the west .Ukraine has greater freedom of the press and more actual democracy than Russia. From the western perspective, Russia's democracy seems managed and false . The oligarchs control everything and even Putin is controlled and financed by a few billionaires.I do not see much difference between the Russian and Ukrainian people, but the countries are moving in opposite directions politically and culturally .Ukraine is running to the west . Russia is making strange alliances with Iran , North Korea, Libya and other rogue states.
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Canuck
Kamsack, Canada
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Stefan wrote: <quoted text> You are not a Canadian. Your views are not Canadian. Don't try and bring a Canadian perspective into your thoughts. Did you see the CBC documentary just played last Sunday on Putin's Russia. Corruption, dictatorship, ect. You must be so proud. At best, you are a relocated Communist that has found refuge in Canada and is hiding in Regina. Come on, tell us all about yourself. We all want to know what makes this refuge tick? Now, now Stefan, settle down and relax:)) We should probably get back on the topic regarding all that evil genocide hooey you Ukrainian Nationals like to promote.
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Jampa
Etobicoke, Canada
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coolncrazy wrote: <quoted text> Russia has condemned all the crimes of Stalin's regime. Millions of people was murdered. They was of many nationalities (but most of them were Russians), so that was mass murdering without nationalist reason. Russia condemned the real crimes. Do you know what is genocide? Probably not. There is a good definition of Russian genocide on this: http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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Jampa
Etobicoke, Canada
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SVICHA Song for 75th Commemoration of the Holodomor in Ukraine 1932-1933 November 17, 2007 http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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“Pink Ponies of Justice”
Since: Sep 07
Moscow, Russia
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Jampa wrote: <quoted text> There is a good definition of Russian genocide on this: http://www.youtube.com/watch... Watch yourself your propaganda, I don't need it. Such a garbage can be find on youtube for every point of view on every event, and I definitely don't understand why you're trying to use it as a "proofs" of something. Maybe because you have no real proofs, stupid propaganda films only? I don't want to play with you in youtube link exchange, but other guys gave enough links for you to understand that your links is cheaper than the space they're written in.
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BsBuster
Calgary, Canada
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coolncrazy wrote: <quoted text> Watch yourself your propaganda, I don't need it. Such a garbage can be find on youtube for every point of view on every event, and I definitely don't understand why you're trying to use it as a "proofs" of something. Maybe because you have no real proofs, stupid propaganda films only? I don't want to play with you in youtube link exchange, but other guys gave enough links for you to understand that your links is cheaper than the space they're written in. As a Russian you have to defend your country . That is perfectly understandable .Keep in mind that criticism of Russian foreign policy and previous acts of the USSR are not a criticism of the Russian people it is important to keep an open mind. In my family,there were several deaths during collectivization and the purges and the famine ,but no one blames the Russian people,but we be lieve it was state sponsored terror.I think all Russians also agree that the USSR was involved in state sponsored terror.
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Jampa
Etobicoke, Canada
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Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide Adopted by Resolution 260 (III) A of the United Nations General Assembly on 9 December 1948. http://www.hrweb.org/legal/genocide.html The Russian Bolshevik Genocide of 1932-1933 [Holodomor] fits the UN Convention's definition and Russia is continuing to deny its guilt.
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John
Kharkov, Ukraine
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The document was written (and I think signed) that would have eliminated all Ukrainian people from Ukriane. The only problem was logistics. They could not figure out how to do it. If that is not genocide I do not know what is. Check around the net and you can find the document. I will look for it again and try to post it.
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Jampa
Etobicoke, Canada
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John wrote: The document was written (and I think signed) that would have eliminated all Ukrainian people from Ukriane. The only problem was logistics. They could not figure out how to do it. If that is not genocide I do not know what is. Check around the net and you can find the document. I will look for it again and try to post it. Also documents will be published soon as follow up to this event: [05.11.2007 11:51] Holodomor 1932-1933 75th commemoration exhibition will be held in Kyiv on Nov 20 - Dec 6 The "We Accuse: Holodomor Genocide 1932-1933" International Exhibition for the 75th Commemoration of the Holodomor 1932-1933 (induced starvation, death for millions, genocide) will be held in Kyiv at the Ukrainian House from Tuesday, November 20 through Thursday, December 6, 2007, according to the Action Ukraine Report (AUR). Ukrainian government should make all copies of Holodomor documents as they become public to be downloadable from numerous mirror sites around the world so scholars can upgrade their analyses of what happened.
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Jampa
Etobicoke, Canada
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John wrote: The document was written (and I think signed) that would have eliminated all Ukrainian people from Ukriane. The only problem was logistics. They could not figure out how to do it. If that is not genocide I do not know what is. Check around the net and you can find the document. I will look for it again and try to post it. SBU documents show that Moscow singled out Ukraine in famine The State Security Service SBU claims it has declassified all of its archival documents on the man-made Holodomor famine that began in 1932. One hundred and thirty documents, with more than five thousand pages, have been declassified. The documents show that humanitarian aid was systematically denied to ethnographic Ukrainian regions. Russians allowed other regions to receive aid. Ukraine was singled out and targeted by Moscow This constitutes genocide.
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Jampa
Etobicoke, Canada
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Stefan wrote: <quoted text> You are not a Canadian. Your views are not Canadian. Don't try and bring a Canadian perspective into your thoughts. Did you see the CBC documentary just played last Sunday on Putin's Russia. Corruption, dictatorship, ect. You must be so proud. At best, you are a relocated Communist that has found refuge in Canada and is hiding in Regina. Come on, tell us all about yourself. We all want to know what makes this refuge tick? A Canadian perspective from Winnipeg http://winnipegsun.com/News/Winnipeg/2007/11/...
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Jampa
Etobicoke, Canada
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“The Incorruptible”
Since: Aug 07
Arras, France/ London, UK
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Jampa wrote: <quoted text> There is a good definition of Russian genocide on this: http://www.youtube.com/watch... You do a bad terrorist propagandist, jampa. The editing on this film is quite obvious: Hollywood would have done better!
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Jampa
Etobicoke, Canada
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Canuck
Kamsack, Canada
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Jampa wrote: <quoted text> A Canadian perspective from Winnipeg http://winnipegsun.com/News/Winnipeg/2007/11/... Is that all you have? Testamoials from two elderly ladies? One was four years old and the other was two years of age when these events allegedly took place. You people have got to be nuts if you think anyone will believe their fable.
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