Spain Will Win Euro 2012. No Contest.

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Expert

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Jun 25, 2012
 
Only Spain understands the game of football. It is something deep in their culture. None of the other countries have this advantage. They act as one unified team, they attack as one and defend as one. So far Spain has not been stressed or tested.

Only two teams matter. Spain and Germany. Italy's win against England was luck. The Italians had 40 shots at the goal and could not score. England played very badly. They couldn't pass, shoot, dribble, get or keep the ball. So italy did not win, England lost.

Portugal can't defeat Spain mainly because it has only one player - Ronaldo.

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Jun 26, 2012
 
Expert wrote:
Only Spain understands the game of football. It is something deep in their culture. None of the other countries have this advantage. They act as one unified team, they attack as one and defend as one. So far Spain has not been stressed or tested.
Only two teams matter. Spain and Germany. Italy's win against England was luck. The Italians had 40 shots at the goal and could not score. England played very badly. They couldn't pass, shoot, dribble, get or keep the ball. So italy did not win, England lost.
Portugal can't defeat Spain mainly because it has only one player - Ronaldo.
Where was Spain at as a footballing nation before Euro 2008? They weren't in the basement but they were NOT dominant then so to say it's deep in their culture and nobody else's is ludicrous. England invented the bloody game and it's deeper in Spain's culture?

Spain is basically Barcelona and that's an incredible advantage as most club teams are much better than National sides and Spain is enjoying the best of both worlds currently BUT the way to beat Barca is the way to beat Spain. Show no fear, be physical and make the most of what few opportunities you'll get from them. That happened numerous times this year vs. Barca and if done vs. Spain you'll see them go down and at this stage in the Euros any team can do that. Also, Spain doesn't get to use Mr. Messi and they do not trust Torres so there are weaknesses to exploit.

Portugal has numerous players that are capable of playing a massive role in beating Spain. If Nani for one, is allowed to do what he does best(and not feel restricted)with Ronny on the left they could wreak havoc on Spain. Having Ronny on your side is a double edged sword. On one side if he's switched on and getting everyone involved it's great and they usually win but if you get the frustrated Ronny who tries to carry the entire Portuguese team and disallows anyone else to help, they usually lose.

If the good Ronny shows up, Spain are in deep trouble because if Spain goes down a goal, they have no true #9 in and will have to rely on 6-7 midfielders with no height to score and you know Portugal will park the bus...
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Jun 27, 2012
 
i can't understand why people say that italy who outplayed england from start to finish and outshot them 34 to 9 can possibly say that italy was lucky to win that game ?, when in fact it was the english that should have easely lost by 2 or 3 goals in the regulation 90 minutes and very lucky to even get to the penalties stage. had italy lost that game it would have been terribly unfair. and let me add that italy is probably the last team that the germans want to face at this stage of the competition.
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Jun 27, 2012
 
i find a bit arrogant when some insist that soccer or football was exclusively invented by the english. the fact is that the game has been evolving since ancient times and in different parts of the world including rome, china etc. about 150 years ago similar variations of the game were being played in different countries of europe and in the uk and as the game became more international in nature it became obvious that the rules of the game had to be uniform everywere the game was played, and so they adopted most if not all english rules to officiate games. the english did not invent the game, the game adopted english rules. you can't invent something that was already there.

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Jun 27, 2012
 
dodi wrote:
i find a bit arrogant when some insist that soccer or football was exclusively invented by the english. the fact is that the game has been evolving since ancient times and in different parts of the world including rome, china etc. about 150 years ago similar variations of the game were being played in different countries of europe and in the uk and as the game became more international in nature it became obvious that the rules of the game had to be uniform everywere the game was played, and so they adopted most if not all english rules to officiate games. the english did not invent the game, the game adopted english rules. you can't invent something that was already there.
Ok yes, some cultures in different parts of the world were kicking severed heads or rolling socks or fabrics into ball shapes or even kicking round fruits about but the English were the 1st to claim the invention of football and the 1st to create a Football Association and make rules and govern it. Thus, like you said the world adopted and uses the original English FA's rules to this day.

It is what it is. It's not arrogance because even if it were 100% true it makes us English look even worse as the inventors of a game we absolutely blow at as a nation.

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Jun 27, 2012
 
dodi wrote:
i can't understand why people say that italy who outplayed england from start to finish and outshot them 34 to 9 can possibly say that italy was lucky to win that game ?, when in fact it was the english that should have easely lost by 2 or 3 goals in the regulation 90 minutes and very lucky to even get to the penalties stage. had italy lost that game it would have been terribly unfair. and let me add that italy is probably the last team that the germans want to face at this stage of the competition.
I agree with you. Italy's win was in no way lucky over England but England IMO resorted back to it's archaic long ball style and allowed Italy to do what it wanted possession wise. If anything both sides had 2 or 3 great chances and to be fair it really could have been a 2-2 or 3-3 outcome as horrible as England played offensively as their actual on goal shots were a bit more dangerous than Italy's. The stats do lie a little concerning Italy because the took 10's of long ranged shots that didn't come close to troubling Hart.

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