DPP unhappy with government over Tiananmen snub

offend beijing what about the students families it is ok to offend them? beijing is a place not a person how can it be offended ? i guess the commies are still the main power in the ppl's democratic china !! what a shame

Let's see. Beijing is the home of 10 million who can be offended. But then again, who really cares what happens on the island other than the joke that is "democracy" which saw nothing but ethnic tension, economic stagnation, money laundering president, and political fist fights. What a shame.

better to offend a few then 10 million i guess how many chinese are for democracy ? maybe more than 10 million ? not sure but who cares right ?

Sorry to disappoint you, but majority of Chinese today has rejected western democracy. Read here the article from IPS.

Buoyed by China's sustained economic boom, which offers opportunities unthinkable to their parents and grandparents, Beida's current students tend to believe that China is destined to blaze a path different than the one chartered by the 1989 student leaders.

"In 1989 they [students] all believed in Western democracy. That is why they even had the Statue of Liberty on Tiananmen Square," a philosophy student surnamed Zheng told Inter Press Service (IPS). "But I think China should follow its own path of development in politics as well as economy, and not be a copycat of the West. We have done that long enough."

Such confidence is partly fueled by the success of China's authoritarian government in delivering material goods to its people. But there are other layers too: disillusionment with the Western model of liberal capitalism during this time of global financial crisis, and newfound pride in the country's traditional culture that is feeding a revival of the Confucian political and moral ethos.

While few of the Beida students who talked to IPS openly vindicate the bloodshed that occurred in the early hours of June 4, 1989, nearly all of them said the crackdown was necessary to prevent China from veering dangerously off its chosen path.

"There would have been chaos, and our economic development would have suffered," said another student, Lan Pingli. "But we need many years of peace, stability and economic prosperity to be able to find our own Chinese way of political governance."

If Lan sounds uncannily like a communist propaganda apparatchik, it is because she and many others among her peers believe Beijing's form of authoritarian governance combined with a market economy is the right formula for the world's most populous country. They subscribe to the idea that political change will come to China not by following the Western model of parliamentarian democracy, but China's own practices.

Zsari wrote:

Sorry to disappoint you, but majority of Chinese today has rejected western democracy. Read here the article from IPS.
Buoyed by China's sustained economic boom, which offers opportunities unthinkable to their parents and grandparents, Beida's current students tend to believe that China is destined to blaze a path different than the one chartered by the 1989 student leaders.
"In 1989 they [students] all believed in Western democracy. That is why they even had the Statue of Liberty on Tiananmen Square," a philosophy student surnamed Zheng told Inter Press Service (IPS). "But I think China should follow its own path of development in politics as well as economy, and not be a copycat of the West. We have done that long enough."
Such confidence is partly fueled by the success of China's authoritarian government in delivering material goods to its people. But there are other layers too: disillusionment with the Western model of liberal capitalism during this time of global financial crisis, and newfound pride in the country's traditional culture that is feeding a revival of the Confucian political and moral ethos.
While few of the Beida students who talked to IPS openly vindicate the bloodshed that occurred in the early hours of June 4, 1989, nearly all of them said the crackdown was necessary to prevent China from veering dangerously off its chosen path.
"There would have been chaos, and our economic development would have suffered," said another student, Lan Pingli. "But we need many years of peace, stability and economic prosperity to be able to find our own Chinese way of political governance."
If Lan sounds uncannily like a communist propaganda apparatchik, it is because she and many others among her peers believe Beijing's form of authoritarian governance combined with a market economy is the right formula for the world's most populous country. They subscribe to the idea that political change will come to China not by following the Western model of parliamentarian democracy, but China's own practices.

Chinese way maybe good for the Chinese but
Taiwan Democracy is Taiwanese way and the best and only way.

Taiwan Democracy? Is that why the island now needs China's help to revive its economy? 12 years of political turmoil and economic stagnation, and some how the fools are still sucking down the western garbage know as democracy like its the best thing on earth. Enjoy while you can.

Zsari wrote:

Taiwan Democracy? Is that why the island now needs China's help to revive its economy? 12 years of political turmoil and economic stagnation, and some how the fools are still sucking down the western garbage know as democracy like its the best thing on earth. Enjoy while you can.

Naruwan Republic won't need PRC's help.

Zsari wrote:

Sorry to disappoint you, but majority of Chinese today has rejected western democracy. Read here the article from IPS.
Buoyed by China's sustained economic boom, which offers opportunities unthinkable to their parents and grandparents, Beida's current students tend to believe that China is destined to blaze a path different than the one chartered by the 1989 student leaders.
"In 1989 they [students] all believed in Western democracy. That is why they even had the Statue of Liberty on Tiananmen Square," a philosophy student surnamed Zheng told Inter Press Service (IPS). "But I think China should follow its own path of development in politics as well as economy, and not be a copycat of the West. We have done that long enough."
Such confidence is partly fueled by the success of China's authoritarian government in delivering material goods to its people. But there are other layers too: disillusionment with the Western model of liberal capitalism during this time of global financial crisis, and newfound pride in the country's traditional culture that is feeding a revival of the Confucian political and moral ethos.
While few of the Beida students who talked to IPS openly vindicate the bloodshed that occurred in the early hours of June 4, 1989, nearly all of them said the crackdown was necessary to prevent China from veering dangerously off its chosen path.
"There would have been chaos, and our economic development would have suffered," said another student, Lan Pingli. "But we need many years of peace, stability and economic prosperity to be able to find our own Chinese way of political governance."
If Lan sounds uncannily like a communist propaganda apparatchik, it is because she and many others among her peers believe Beijing's form of authoritarian governance combined with a market economy is the right formula for the world's most populous country. They subscribe to the idea that political change will come to China not by following the Western model of parliamentarian democracy, but China's own practices.

Don't worry about China, we've been here 10,000 years now, and we've finally arrived.

It's the Unitd States that you should be worried about, and the experiment you call democracy; it's not working anymore and there's no credible plan in place to fix the thing, and your politicians go to Washington and do the opposite of what's needed to be done.

Zsari wrote:

Sorry to disappoint you, but majority of Chinese today has rejected western democracy.

Not without great intervention and propaganda from the State.

Deng wrote:

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Don't worry about China, we've been here 10,000 years now, and we've finally arrived.
It's the Unitd States that you should be worried about, and the experiment you call democracy; it's not working anymore and there's no credible plan in place to fix the thing, and your politicians go to Washington and do the opposite of what's needed to be done.

Time and time again you mind-mushed anti-democracy staff members of the CCP keep saying the same boring things.

1. "America's" failing of democracy elected Obama.

2. Democracy is not an exclusive invention of the United States. Everytime "democracy" is mentioned you suddenly attack America, but there are a hundred or so other countries all with some semblance of democracy. And all doing far better for their people than dictatorships.

3. If democracy is so terrible, why are the wealthiest countries of the world democracies and the poorest countries all dictatorships?

Centrist wrote:

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3. If democracy is so terrible, why are the wealthiest countries of the world democracies and the poorest countries all dictatorships?

A dictatorship is the fastest way to lead a country into the modern world.

Centrist wrote:

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Time and time again you mind-mushed anti-democracy staff members of the CCP keep saying the same boring things.
1. "America's" failing of democracy elected Obama.
2. Democracy is not an exclusive invention of the United States. Everytime "democracy" is mentioned you suddenly attack America, but there are a hundred or so other countries all with some semblance of democracy. And all doing far better for their people than dictatorships.
3. If democracy is so terrible, why are the wealthiest countries of the world democracies and the poorest countries all dictatorships?

You get facts all wrong.

1. West was rich because industrial revolution, not becuause 'democracy'.

2. Chinese isn't against the true democracy. However, we are just not interested in Western style 'democracy'.

3. Many of poorest countries adopt western style 'democracy'. such as Zimbabwe.

Centrist wrote:

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Time and time again you mind-mushed anti-democracy staff members of the CCP keep saying the same boring things.
1. "America's" failing of democracy elected Obama.
2. Democracy is not an exclusive invention of the United States. Everytime "democracy" is mentioned you suddenly attack America, but there are a hundred or so other countries all with some semblance of democracy. And all doing far better for their people than dictatorships.
3. If democracy is so terrible, why are the wealthiest countries of the world democracies and the poorest countries all dictatorships?

To be frankly, what kind government you choose is not our business. and what kind government we choose is NOT YOUR business.

Centrist wrote:

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Not without great intervention and propaganda from the State.

Today's China needs no propaganda. Or Hilary, Geithner, and a slude of western "digintaries", and DPP mayor must be greatest state propaganda tool. Lol. What kind of pathetic "centrist" you are?

Centrist wrote:

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If democracy is so terrible, why are the wealthiest countries of the world democracies and the poorest countries all dictatorships?

Another democratic fallacy. Go read the CIA fact book, the poorest nation are in fact democratic. Democracy in the west is the result of affluence from 400 years of colonialism and imperialism, never the cause. There are plenty of poor democratic state that are mired by conflict and inefficiency due to the very state of democracy.