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Deeley
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shazwoza wrote: These scenes usually build the intimacy between two characters. Does this really need to be explained? If you really feel like a voyeur during these scenes then maybe you have to mature a bit, seriously.
You should know a lot of actresses use their own bodies, Nicole included. my point is that it's uneccessary. i don't go around in public (nor do you, i hope)'building intmacy' with my partner to 'explain' to others the relationship that we have. these scenesare include to put bums on seats - certainly not for the reason of 'adding expLanation' to the story. MOST of the public don't need to see these explanations; a lot (like you?) WANT to. next, we'll be having to watch people going to the toilet because it 'adds explanation' to the story. oh, i forgot! nicole kidman has ALREADY done that in 'eyes wide shut'lol. i've never seen anyone piss or wipe themselves so elegantly in my life!(i'm a nurse) oh yeah - it's all so REALISTIC. LMAO!!... come to think of it, i'm not sure that peoples love making is usually so posed and graceful, streamlined and choreographed in real life. there's usually a fart or 2, an awkward limb or 2, a fumble or mishap of SOME kind. oh, yeah - it's all so 'realistic' in movies! lmao. IMO, anyone who likes to watch 'the explanation' of love making has got a hell of a long way to go to become a 'Mature' adult THEMSELVES. I suggest YOU grow up.
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Deeley
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shazwoza wrote: You should know a lot of actresses use their own bodies, Nicole included. i do! read my post PROPERLY! actors having body doubles just adds to the hypocracy. if an actor believes strongly in the role, believes in graphically 'building intimacy', believes in realism and staying true to the scrip, why in Gods name do they have to cheapen their standards by using a body double? oh, that's right, they're too moral, too 'private' to actually do it themselves! it's alright if someone else does it though....no wonder kids get confused. hypocrits! BTW, i saw 'hair' on the stage some decades ago. and they dared to have a nude scene. i swear we all went to see it, just so we might see a few nude bodies. they were nude alright! but the lighting was so dim for that scene that the audience couln't see a thing! but it was all 'in the name of art' B.S.- it was all in the name of selling tickets - and that's exactly what it did!
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Adelaide, Australia
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Deeley wrote: <quoted text>
my point is that it's uneccessary. i don't go around in public (nor do you, i hope)'building intmacy' with my partner to 'explain' to others the relationship that we have. these scenesare include to put bums on seats - certainly not for the reason of 'adding expLanation' to the story. MOST of the public don't need to see these explanations; a lot (like you?) WANT to. next, we'll be having to watch people going to the toilet because it 'adds explanation' to the story. oh, i forgot! nicole kidman has ALREADY done that in 'eyes wide shut'lol. i've never seen anyone piss or wipe themselves so elegantly in my life!(i'm a nurse) oh yeah - it's all so REALISTIC. LMAO!!... come to think of it, i'm not sure that peoples love making is usually so posed and graceful, streamlined and choreographed
in real life. there's usually a fart or 2, an awkward limb or 2, a fumble or mishap of SOME kind. oh, yeah - it's all so 'realistic' in movies! lmao. IMO, anyone who likes to watch 'the
explanation' of love making has got a hell of a long way to go to become a 'Mature' adult THEMSELVES. I suggest YOU grow up. Sure in some films sex scenes are used to sell it (American Pie amongst all the other teen movies out there), but not really always. It was a bit of a blanket statement what you said earlier. Equating it to having sex in public is sort of missing the point as the actors are usually playing characters, characters who are usually doing it in private. The way a couple has sex can tell you a lot about the characters. Sometimes it may convey intimacy, other times it can be more lustful. It can even show a lack of connection between a couple. Anyway what's the big deal? It's just a little nudity.
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Deeley wrote: <quoted text>
i do! read my post PROPERLY! actors having body doubles just adds to the hypocracy. if an actor believes strongly in the role, believes in graphically 'building intimacy', believes in realism and staying true to the scrip, why in Gods name do they have to cheapen their standards by using a body double? oh, that's right, they're too moral, too 'private' to actually do it themselves! it's alright if someone else does it though....no wonder kids get confused. hypocrits!
BTW, i saw 'hair' on the stage some decades ago. and they dared to have a nude scene. i swear we all went to see it, just so we might see a few nude bodies. they were nude alright! but the lighting was so dim for that scene that the audience couln't see a thing! but it was all
'in the name of art' B.S.- it was all in the name of selling tickets - and that's exactly what it did! It's clearly meant to be more about privacy than morality. It may sacrifice their art very slightly, but that is their choice.
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Deeley
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shazwoza wrote: <quoted text>
It's clearly meant to be more about privacy than morality. It may sacrifice their art very slightly, but that is their choice. you're splitting hairs! sacrificing their ART?...are you SERIOUS?? art!! i recently saw the (latest) french 'lady chatterley'. a beautifully acted piece, beautifully filmed. but an erect penis!(FF) did not in the least add any 'expression' to the urgently lustful relationship between the 2 lead characters. if anything, it detracted from the mystique , and brought the film to level of 'smutty'.(let's face it; there's nothing subtle about an erect penis!(the cynical old nurse from way back!) anybody over the age of 10, these days, knows what it means. it served it's purpose though. it got bums on seats. it shocked. it WAS a french movie though, so we CAN forgive - they can't help it! let's just say that i won't be rushing out to see it again. please name some movies where the 'intimate' scenes are integral to the actors portrayal of the character and/or plot.. i'd be very interested. i've got a VERY open mind. I know i sound like an old prude; but i'm not, really!
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Deeley
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shazwoza wrote: <quoted text>
Anyway what's the big deal? It's just a little nudity. i used to spend time at a nude beach (maslin)..... just a little nudity. erotic, heaving, sweating sex, on the big screen, is NOT 'just a LITTLE nudity'.
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Since: Jun 08
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Deeley wrote: <quoted text>
you're splitting hairs! sacrificing their ART?...are you SERIOUS??
art!! i recently saw the (latest) french 'lady chatterley'. a beautifully acted piece, beautifully filmed. but an erect penis!(FF) did not in the least add any 'expression' to the urgently lustful relationship between the 2 lead characters. if anything, it detracted from the mystique , and brought the film to level of 'smutty'.(let's face it; there's nothing subtle about an erect penis!(the cynical old nurse from way back!) anybody over the age of 10, these days, knows what it means. it served it's purpose though. it got bums on seats. it shocked. it WAS a french movie though, so we CAN forgive - they can't help it! let's just say that i won't be rushing out to see it again.
please name some movies where the 'intimate' scenes are integral to the actors portrayal of the character and/or plot.. i'd be very interested. i've got a VERY open mind. I know i sound like an old prude; but i'm not, really! If I saw someone's wang on screen then I'd be like "Wow, they went there" but I wouldn't really get so hung up on it really. I blame the consumers. I mean if you're going to see a film for a few seconds of nipple you're getting shit value for money. There is plenty of free porn around for that. As for an example of a sex scene that played an important part in the plot - Fur meets that description
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Deeley
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O.K., thanks for the tip.(fur) i'll get to it, somehow. no, i'm not 'hung up' about seeing an erect wang on the screen (i found it quite laughable actually (not the wang, the SCENE) it was all so pointless (not the wang, the SCENE) IMO. like we're supposed to lurch into long D&Ms about this stark, F.F. glimpse of 'throbbing manhood' nothing subtle or artistic about it, just a wang -and not an exceptionally attractive one at that, but i digress. did you see this movie? it was really quite beautiful, well paced, rich, but i'm afraid the elongated (boring!!) sex scenes reduced it to a poor excuse for soft porn; just purile alsoran stuff...a real shame. I think that it was meant to be 'artistic'. but D.H. would REALLY have got his rocks off!(i know the man seated in front of us did - we could hear his heavy breathing from our seats)- pathetic, really. oh well, i guess he was lonely or kinky or SOMETHING....maybe asthmatic! yeah, THAT would be it!
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mido
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Deeley
Adelaide, Australia
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shazwoza wrote: These scenes usually build the intimacy between two characters. Does this really need to be explained? If you really feel like a voyeur during these scenes then maybe you have to mature a bit, seriously.
You should know a lot of actresses use their own bodies, Nicole included. i think we've been here before, shaz! it really is BS that a f***fest 'builds intimacy'. it's just an excuse to get bums on seats. the art of good story telling has gone out the window, along with all those good actors who were able to portray 'intimacy' by 'suggesting' a situation, rather than spelling it out, in front of our very eyes. the average audience isn't quite THAT moronic! next, we'll be having actors actually doing a poop, complete with all grunts and squeefs, while they're sitting on the toilet seat. thereby assuring that the ****wit audience is able to UNDERSTAND that the actor is playing the role of a 'REAL person'. A person who poops and piddles and eats, as a part of their 'everyday existence'. does THAT have to be spelt out, too? 'BUILDING intimacy'....lol. it's more like 'building seat sales', to me!
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Nicole Kidman remains on her way up to greater achievments as an actress. She is a stunningly beautiful woman with a lovely voice and lovely face and body. She is about as perfect as a woman can be and yet still the human with flaws and quirks. She is honest about who she is. I love her movies and her great talent to make each of her characters believable and engaging. Now, if she would only put out an album of her singing with great videos.
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