North Pole May Be Ice-Free This Summer

ice ice baby!

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but, it isn't ice-free, is it?

Spooky stuff.

How can that be caused by "global warming" when the globe is no warmer today than ten years ago?

10 years ago there was one warmer year surrounded by cooler years. Now we've just had about 5 warmer years in a row. Ie warming is not short and sweet like it was 10 years back but sustained.

Also the ice albedo feedback is no doubt kicking in: ice melting = less sunlight reflected by ice = more solar energy absorbed = more melting.

Even if temps are kept constant for 10 years I imagine that ice in the arctic will continue it's decline.

Cthulhu wrote:

10 years ago there was one warmer year surrounded by cooler years. Now we've just had about 5 warmer years in a row. Ie warming is not short and sweet like it was 10 years back but sustained.
Also the ice albedo feedback is no doubt kicking in: ice melting = less sunlight reflected by ice = more solar energy absorbed = more melting.
Even if temps are kept constant for 10 years I imagine that ice in the arctic will continue it's decline.

so, IS it Ice-Free yet? it is past midsummer - yet another prediction that never came true!

Cthulhu wrote:

10 years ago there was one warmer year surrounded by cooler years. Now we've just had about 5 warmer years in a row. Ie warming is not short and sweet like it was 10 years back but sustained.
Also the ice albedo feedback is no doubt kicking in: ice melting = less sunlight reflected by ice = more solar energy absorbed = more melting.
Even if temps are kept constant for 10 years I imagine that ice in the arctic will continue it's decline.

so, you ADMIT that temperatures are NOT going up! Yet another Al Gore lie is exposed. What is the need for all this "carbon footprint" nonsense when it is obvious that CO2 is NOT increasing temperatures?

Mr Giblets wrote:

<quoted text>so, IS it Ice-Free yet? it is past midsummer - yet another prediction that never came true!

There's about another month of melt left. North pole is showing areas with only 50% ice cover:
http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/NEWIM...

Could very well become ice free, although I think the chance is around 50/50

Mr Giblets wrote:

<quoted text>so, you ADMIT that temperatures are NOT going up! Yet another Al Gore lie is exposed. What is the need for all this "carbon footprint" nonsense when it is obvious that CO2 is NOT increasing temperatures?

Temperatures go up over decades, like the 00s are warmer than the 90s, and the 2010s will be warmer than the 00s. They don't go up year by year but over the longterm.

Cthulhu wrote:

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Temperatures go up over decades, like the 00s are warmer than the 90s, and the 2010s will be warmer than the 00s. They don't go up year by year but over the longterm.

"it seems that no matter what happens in the world, it is always claimed that global warming is to blame and that the change will be for the worse," Lewis added. "That speaks to an agenda that will be asserted regardless of what happens in the real world."

http://www.heartland.org/Article.cfm...

Cthulhu wrote:

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Temperatures go up over decades, like the 00s are warmer than the 90s, and the 2010s will be warmer than the 00s. They don't go up year by year but over the longterm.

so for ten years they don't go up , then without anyone noticing, they are suddenly higher? keep hoping, Gore-Boy, but you are on a loser here.

They have gone up, the 00s are warmer than the 90s. I have already said that.

Mr Giblets wrote:

<quoted text>so for ten years they don't go up , then without anyone noticing, they are suddenly higher? keep hoping, Gore-Boy, but you are on a loser here.

I'm afraid you're wrong about this, Sir Giblets. Here's the global temperature record for the past 100+ years:

http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/graphs/Fig....

No sign of your "for ten years they don't go up" to be found there...there's quite obviously been warming trend in the past decade. In fact, the years 2001-2007 were 7 of the 8 warmest years on record (the eighth one being 1998).

Have an awesome day.

keep on hoping. why don't you go on some canoe trip to PROVE there is no ice? We all know a lot melts every summer - Shackleton tried to sail through it once, and it is so thin at the Pole that nuclear subs often come up there.(as long ago as the 1960's) Did you see how Jeremy Clarkson drove a jeep there, and how the warmies who went to see the "ice free" sea had to be rescued by an icebreaker?

1) subs can surface through feet of ice.
2) you can drive a jeep almost everywhere on arctic sea ice in winter and plenty of places in summer.
3) I don't think you really get the difference between ice reduction and complete loss.

well, is it ice-free yet? hurry up, the summer will soon be over.

Cthulhu wrote:

1) subs can surface through feet of ice.
2) you can drive a jeep almost everywhere on arctic sea ice in winter and plenty of places in summer.
3) I don't think you really get the difference between ice reduction and complete loss.

Ok fine. Now go away and get back to us as soon as all the ice is gone in the Arctic. Or, when hell freezes over which would be about as likely.

mr Giblets wrote:

keep on hoping. why don't you go on some canoe trip to PROVE there is no ice? We all know a lot melts every summer - Shackleton tried to sail through it once, and it is so thin at the Pole that nuclear subs often come up there.(as long ago as the 1960's) Did you see how Jeremy Clarkson drove a jeep there, and how the warmies who went to see the "ice free" sea had to be rescued by an icebreaker?

Meanwhile Canada is developing Arctic Ocean ports and major shipping lines are planning Northwest Passage routes; the bright side of disaster. It may not happen this year, after a cold year at the solar cycle trough, but it'll be a regular feature of the near future.

Northie wrote:

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Meanwhile Canada is developing Arctic Ocean ports and major shipping lines are planning Northwest Passage routes; the bright side of disaster. It may not happen this year, after a cold year at the solar cycle trough, but it'll be a regular feature of the near future.

MY country of Canada, is spending twice as much on new ice breakers as it was going to spend on KYOTO,had the coldest winter in 12 years and issues hunting permits for polar bears.
Google is great for you glowBULL whiners because you can cherry pick your own narrow minded opinion and justify it that way.
History will laugh at you global warming fools.
Let's work to prserve, not rescue with fear and ignorance and hysteria.