Really funny, considering your point 2. The Wedge Document exists. It was written by the Disco'tute. It provides a strategy to get religion back into schools. Thus the term "Wedge Strategy".It aint necessarily so wrote:
Not openly, at least not until their Wedge Strategy was leaked. ID is a political strategy to circumvent the law that prevents creationism from being taught as science in American public schools. The DI was damaged by that leak.
But its fellows often continue to distance themselves from supernaturalism in a bizarre parody in which they deny their obvious religious motivations. But they feel they have to. Supernaturalism in an origins hypothesis is poison to the movement. It's the sine qua non of both religion and pseudoscienc
Just stopping by.
Darwin's Stepchild wrote:
I must say, you are doing a fine job of writing in support of science. A job well done.
Both posts are entirely false on the facts.
1. "ID" has no wedge strategy. Never has.
It was never published by the Disco'tute. It was leaked by someone inside the Disco'tute. It was published by the people it was leaked to.2. The wedge strategy was never "leaked". It was published, put right out in the open.
Well, I will agree somewhat on this one. Except for the "straight forward manner". They are quite disingenuous. They pretend to do science when all they really do is PR.3. "ID" is not "DI". The reversal of letters is important. The Discovery Institute is a think tank with an ideology. Their goal is to compete with the ideology of "naturalism". They say so in a straightforward manner.
I'll call this one a tie.
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Flat out, completely wrong...on both counts. ID is a PR stunt and you are so dense you have fallen for it. It in no way is science.4. "ID" is not a political strategy. It is science.
Counts for two since you made two claims.
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ID is just an idea. It can't circumvent anything. It is the people that push ID that do the circumventing. The whole purpose of ID is to circumvent the SCOTUS decision.5. "ID" has never attempted to circumvent any law.
You lose this one on a category error.
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Again, ID is an idea and can oppose anything. It is the people, again, that push ID that want ID and creationism taught in school.6. "ID" OPPOSES both creationism and intelligent design being taught in school. The idea that it is a movement to get creationism in schools is provably a lie.
Can you seriously claim they don't? Have you seen the number of bills in state legislatures that try to shoehorn in ID or creationism?
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No Buck. No lies. At least, not from us. From you is another story.You people are willing to lie your asses off to try to undermine intelligent design research.
BTW...there IS no ID research, so it can't be undermined.
Face it Buck, you lose. On this one. But then, you lose on just about every point you ever support. How one person can be so misinformed is beyond me. But you, Buck, succeed.Pointing out your lies is like farting in the wind. I show the necessary documentation to prove you are lying, and then you just repeat the lies.
And so it goes.